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Had a little discussion with my boy and I didn't know where else to post. I have fairly white skin and I'm from Egypt. He doesn't believe that I'm African bringing up the point that "since you speak Arabic you're an Arab, even though Egypt is in Africa."
Thoughts?
Had a little discussion with my boy and I didn't know where else to post. I have fairly white skin and I'm from Egypt. He doesn't believe that I'm African bringing up the point that "since you speak Arabic you're an Arab, even though Egypt is in Africa."
Thoughts?
The reality is until a group of us are ready to strap up, and start making these enemies of the sun uncomfortable nothing will change. Person after person, organization and effort after effort has been destroyed or dismantled. And that has come about with tactics we seem scared to get into. All of us in this thread could create something big, and they could kill each and every single one of us and then that would be it. We'd get docs, books, etc made talking about our effort and then reset the struggle right back to where it is now. It's like everyone accepts that this is the end all be all for society.
The reality is until a group of us are ready to strap up, and start making these enemies of the sun uncomfortable nothing will change. Person after person, organization and effort after effort has been destroyed or dismantled. And that has come about with tactics we seem scared to get into. All of us in this thread could create something big, and they could kill each and every single one of us and then that would be it. We'd get docs, books, etc made talking about our effort and then reset the struggle right back to where it is now. It's like everyone accepts that this is the end all be all for society.
it took me a minute to get the 'enemies of the sun' reference... #hilarious!...to my mind the militant approach would make being marginalized even easier, why would that be a solution to anything?...honestly i think part the issue is the expectation of unity via skin color, i think we all know that the world may not look upon black folk with the nuance necessary, but i feel like similarly there is a way we don't ourselves allow for that nuance...there simplification of the arguments/ideas that gets in the way of people exploring different paths (in addition to all the institutional/societal limitations)...
Bingo. Though we're generations removed from Africa, it doesn't change the fact that our ancestors were from different tribes and cultures. I've said before that the U.S. is about the only country on the planet where a group of people are forced into solidarity because of the color of their skin as a means of survival. Those from Asian cultures don't have to join together in order to survive, Chinese people support their own, Japanese support their own, Vietnamese support their own, but they don't have to join together under one Asian-American umbrella in order to survive.
Bingo. Though we're generations removed from Africa, it doesn't change the fact that our ancestors were from different tribes and cultures. I've said before that the U.S. is about the only country on the planet where a group of people are forced into solidarity because of the color of their skin as a means of survival. Those from Asian cultures don't have to join together in order to survive, Chinese people support their own, Japanese support their own, Vietnamese support their own, but they don't have to join together under one Asian-American umbrella in order to survive.
on the contrary solidarity is great, and in most cases necessary (and across culture & ethnicities), but the case has to be made in such a way that all parties see how it benefits them (and those benefits may not need to be tangible but they need to be made clear)...i'm more of the mind the problem is with the EXPECTATION itself...it is the expectation that lets people get away with making half brained arguments, if they bother at all to make a coherent argument at all. the expectation that people should be united without really making the case for being united...
it took me a minute to get the 'enemies of the sun' reference... #hilarious!...to my mind the militant approach would make being marginalized even easier, why would that be a solution to anything?...honestly i think part the issue is the expectation of unity via skin color, i think we all know that the world may not look upon black folk with the nuance necessary, but i feel like similarly there is a way we don't ourselves allow for that nuance...there simplification of the arguments/ideas that gets in the way of people exploring different paths (in addition to all the institutional/societal limitations)...
as to beyonce, and the all the scrutiny around her, it definitely points to the undue amount of attention celebrities receive for even the most minor of decisions, which maybe justifies the calculated nature of those even seemingly minor decisions, which in turn makes the skepticism necessary...#circularreasoning...i don't know how sincere it is, not sure it matters either way though?
Bingo. Though we're generations removed from Africa, it doesn't change the fact that our ancestors were from different tribes and cultures. I've said before that the U.S. is about the only country on the planet where a group of people are forced into solidarity because of the color of their skin as a means of survival. Those from Asian cultures don't have to join together in order to survive, Chinese people support their own, Japanese support their own, Vietnamese support their own, but they don't have to join together under one Asian-American umbrella in order to survive.
How do we manipulate and force people to go along with what's needed to be done to overcome? That's the part I'm still trying to figure out. At times I think it's possible through programming of the entertainment and media. But without controlling the images and sounds that entertain us, and ultimately influence us to dress, act, and think certain ways, it becomes tough. But we could always attack those who are using their spotlight in the entertainment/media field to at least bring about the dialogue since social media exists. But it would have to be on a larger platform than our individual social media devices. And take some of us in this thread for example. We have to be able to build something, anything. We all have brains and what seems to be a similar desire for liberation. I'm not willing to buy that we can't create something out of that...