Yo to dude who says he knows is very ignorant you got geniuses who say they dont know if theirs a God how can u be so sure or are u just sayinthats your story and your sticking to it? which is cool but dont act like you know cause if you knew everything from origins of dark matter to what was thefirst word ever spoken by man then dont act like you KNOW the answers to questions people of high astute dont have an answer for.
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See, now what you did was side-step the point again. Where did i ask for you to change your belief? He answered YOUR question, now you either have to refute it and give an explanation as to why or to acknowledge his point. In any case, LOGIC is the point! without logic, we might as well still be cave men without fire or the invention of a wheel. It doesnt matter whether his logic coincides with my point or not, if you were speaking with any amount of logic at all, more people would be believing you, but since you're NOT, well you've seen how the responses are. Which brings me to my next point:
There's a limit to the amount of times you're forgiven for your sins?
I think its more of accepting/not accepting someone because parents probably have a certain type of person inmind for their child. Im sure they accept them as human beings and respect them, but they just arent the one for their child for whatever reason.
Originally Posted by RKO2004
Not erasing anymore of our mistakes. What type of life would it be if God stepped in all the time to stop bad things from happening? He has laid down his laws. It is up to us to follow them. Those who don't in this life will be punished for it in the next. Those that live a life of a true believer will reign with Christ, our King.
When you have children, will you always step in and stop them from doing what you told them not to? Will you clean up all their mistakes?In gymnastics does a gymnast's coach catch them them when they fall during practice? Maybe the first few times but after a while He/She has to let go and let flow. In gymnastics when its competition time, the gymnast should be well prepared. The gymnast performs alone and is judged according to his/her performance. The terrorist from 9/11 will pay for their actions. They already payed by taken their gift from God but they will pay again. Everyone will have to answer for their sins and wrong doings. You, me and everyone. I pray He is merciful on us.
Originally Posted by Roc Boy Jada
I was wondering based on one of your post from earlier on; I forgot to bring it up:
Originally Posted by RKO2004
Not erasing anymore of our mistakes. What type of life would it be if God stepped in all the time to stop bad things from happening? He has laid down his laws. It is up to us to follow them. Those who don't in this life will be punished for it in the next. Those that live a life of a true believer will reign with Christ, our King.
When you have children, will you always step in and stop them from doing what you told them not to? Will you clean up all their mistakes?In gymnastics does a gymnast's coach catch them them when they fall during practice? Maybe the first few times but after a while He/She has to let go and let flow. In gymnastics when its competition time, the gymnast should be well prepared. The gymnast performs alone and is judged according to his/her performance. The terrorist from 9/11 will pay for their actions. They already payed by taken their gift from God but they will pay again. Everyone will have to answer for their sins and wrong doings. You, me and everyone. I pray He is merciful on us.
EVERY species on this earth is reliant on being taught. We are no different. To think other wise is human ignorance displaying its self once again.
Where did you think we came from? did god sit down and teach the earliest cave men about the principles and applications of fire? That circular objects can retain a maximal force of pressure and it's uses are limitless? NOBODY taught us any of this, WE'VE learned this all by ourselves. How about people discovering new things in general? like the first nuclear physicists for example, if there weren't any before them, then how did they become to be nuclear physicists? can you PLEASE help me with any or all of this? and please do not side-step teh argument again and come up with something new to argue about. let's stay on this same argument please. Either refute it with an explanation or acknowledge it, which one are you going to choose?
and please do not use "I dont have to answer anything to you", or any other girly remarks of the sort. Thank you
OK. I never said my beliefs were the first or the last. You assuming did that. I said I believe the bible is the word of God and that Jesus is our lord and savior. My only goal is to live right and help others get to where I want to go because I really do care for you all. What exactly did I side step again?
When I said made I mean the universe just having a random event out of NOWHERE that leads to everything we see and know now. Yes it took God 7 days.
Look bro, no one is side stepping your arguments. Stop with that. Believe me the last thing I fear to debate is someone over the net. Now on to what you said. If you knew what I believe then you would already have your answer for what I believe. When slaves arrived here they knew NOTHING about America. But they were taught over time. Self discover can only come if you know basic knowledge. Like I said before, I'm pretty much done trying to debate with you all. That's why I said to end this, lets wait and see what pops off or what doesn't.
One last question. So what happens if prophecies from the bible or another holy book come true? Then what will you believe? Will you remain atheist or will you change your direction in life? How do you feel about the predictions from thousands of years ago? The rise of sin and the state of the world getting worse and worse. How about the talk of a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT? I heard a couple months ago China and a few other countries brought it up. How about physical currency being eliminated? Saw a video on Yahoo talking about the flaws of pennies. How about "the mark"? All of our information and currency on a micro chip that I'm sure we won't be able to do basic living without.
Better yet don't answer any of that. Just do you, fall back and pay attention. I guess a woman's cycle also is a random thing. Hilarious.
So you're telling me to not reply and fall back? what would that do? This is a thread for debate, if I "fell back" then what wouldthe point of this be.
Well that's the thing, I don't know the things that you know, that's what I'm trying to figure out here.Why don't you tell us so we can not have mindless arguments and toss all that irrelevancy aside. So let's say cave people explored fire, where did theyget the basic knowledge of that? Well you prob don't believe in cave people, where do you believe fire camefrom? And what exactly are you waiting for to "pop off?"
Can you tell me where it says in the bible about physical currency being eliminated or everything being in a microchip?What if the prophecies in another holy book were coming true? would you immediately convert to that religion? As for me, I will remain an atheist until clearevidence shows up and convinces me without a doubt that one religion is the "true" religion. All that prophecy is nonsense, every religion that has aprophecy is based on chance. An author of so and so will make a thousand predictions and a hundred will be right, that does not contribute to a religionsworth. There's this lady (there was a thread about her somewhere on NT) who made a hundred predictions for 2009, some are obvious, some not so, but chancesare, she'll have some of them right. Does that mean that she's psychic?
Who said it was? Well, based on what you believe, a woman was created from a pair of ribs. In all seriousness, what do youbelieve of the many different drafts of the bible (rewrites based on who conquered who at the time), why jesus' teen years are missing from the bible, the"whitification of power" (phrase I just made up where everyone who had power was shown as white or light skinned [egyptians, jesus, etc.]). And basedon an earlier response, you said you thought of the bible as literal. Does this also imply that the story of goliath, adam and eve, soddom and gomorrah areliteral representations based on your views?
Where did you think we came from? did god sit down and teach the earliest cave men about the principles and applications of fire? That circular objects can retain a maximal force of pressure and it's uses are limitless? NOBODY taught us any of this, WE'VE learned this all by ourselves. How about people discovering new things in general? like the first nuclear physicists for example, if there weren't any before them, then how did they become to be nuclear physicists? can you PLEASE help me with any or all of this? and please do not side-step teh argument again and come up with something new to argue about. let's stay on this same argument please. Either refute it with an explanation or acknowledge it, which one are you going to choose?
Who said it was? Well, based on what you believe, a woman was created from a pair of ribs. In all seriousness, what do you believe of the many different drafts of the bible (rewrites based on who conquered who at the time), why jesus' teen years are missing from the bible, the "whitification of power" (phrase I just made up where everyone who had power was shown as white or light skinned [egyptians, jesus, etc.]). And based on an earlier response, you said you thought of the bible as literal. Does this also imply that the story of goliath, adam and eve, soddom and gomorrah are literal representations based on your views?
I don't know or care what complexing Jesus was. But since He was in the middle east I would assume his skin was on the darker side but thats a discussionfor another debate. Yes I do believe those things took place. Do you have a girlfriend? I'm not trying to put you on the spot but I was wondering becausehave you ever hug your girl and tried to get closer to her? It may sound like I'm reaching but it really made me think. Pertaining to Goliath, He may have just been a Big Show built dude or bigger.And didn't some researches find traces of Soddom and Gomorrah?
Who said it was? Well, based on what you believe, a woman was created from a pair of ribs. In all seriousness, what do you believe of the many different drafts of the bible (rewrites based on who conquered who at the time), why jesus' teen years are missing from the bible, the "whitification of power" (phrase I just made up where everyone who had power was shown as white or light skinned [egyptians, jesus, etc.]). And based on an earlier response, you said you thought of the bible as literal. Does this also imply that the story of goliath, adam and eve, soddom and gomorrah are literal representations based on your views?
I don't know or care what complexing Jesus was. But since He was in the middle east I would assume his skin was on the darker side but thats a discussion for another debate. Yes I do believe those things took place. Do you have a girlfriend? I'm not trying to put you on the spot but I was wondering because have you ever hug your girl and tried to get closer to her? It may sound like I'm reaching but it really made me think. Pertaining to Goliath, He may have just been a Big Show built dude or bigger. And didn't some researches find traces of Soddom and Gomorrah?
Well, this basically can go on forever. Usually when I try and have a serious religious conversation with other people, they usually get angry and just try andforce their way through the convo by trying to talk over me until I stopped askin questions. Intelligent conversations FTW
About cave people, you don't believe in them, is that correct? If I'm not mistaken, you believe in adam and eveand these two theories conflict eachother. And if we had stumbled upon fire, we would have no idea of how to make it. At the same time, if we hadpre-knowledge, who taught us?
Even though you say you are a follower of christ and palce no albel on him, you read the bible, which would mean that youare most likely of the christian faith, am I right? All the other stuff about RFID chips I already know about, but that belongs in another thread.
Yes I do have a girlfriend, but hugging her doesn't make me want to put her in my body. From what I understand, they might have found sodom and gomorrah but that itwas most likely destroyed by a natural event. Since you do take the bible literally, then you do believe in the story of the two angels, pillar of salt, etc.?
Edit. http://www.guba.com/watch/3000035362
Yes I do have a girlfriend, but hugging her doesn't make me want to put her in my body. From what I understand, they might have found sodom and gomorrah but that it was most likely destroyed by a natural event. Since you do take the bible literally, then you do believe in the story of the two angels, pillar of salt, etc.?
Man not like that but you never want to let her go. Two angles as in the ones the towns people were after and pillar as in when God told her notto look back?
Why? There is no rules violation going on.
Because this thread became a waste of time, and it isn't going anywhere.
You never know dude. Someone might break down and e-cry.
Haha, I lol'd.
Yeah I feel you.
