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And there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that, but that sort of ingredient belongs NOWHERE in a scientific discussion. Just sit it out if that's your contribution.
But that's where stubbornness comes in.
"I can join if I want."
everyone else: *sigh*
"How does this water get hard and cold when we put it in this super cold environment?"
"I think the speed of the molecules is what we should investigate."
"Interesting. You there, the one that said you can join if you want. Join in. What's your thinking?"
"I think god does it. "
"You don't think the speed of the molecules has anything to do with it?"
"Oh, it may. If it does, it's because god does that. "
"We're looking for evidence, though."
"You have no evidence that he doesn't do it.
"That doesn't mean that he does."
"Doesn't mean he didn't. "
again: *sigh*
Just keep your stubborn faith end-games out of quests for more knowledge and further understandings. In a journey for understanding what IS, "Could be. You can't prove it didn't" is counterproductive.
That's the thing: continued efforts to better understand is exactly the journey, so if The Unproven Existence is beyond our understanding, let's keep her out of the discussion and move onto that which we can understand but simply don't understand yet.
You must not believe anything in the universe thenNo one here can prove that Santa* doesn't exist. And if you claim he doesn't exist, the burden of proof on you. Why is that so hard to understand?
*or Bigfoot, Easter Bunny, loch ness monster, etc. Everything is real until proven otherwise.
No it can not.That argument could work if they are making no claim.
Again you clearly seem to not be able to properly grasp the meaning of these definitions.But by definition the atheist is making the claim..."God doesn't exist"
Cuz you're arguing from the conclusion instead of the premise.No one here can prove that Santa* doesn't exist. And if you claim he doesn't exist, the burden of proof on you. Why is that so hard to understand?
*or Bigfoot, Easter Bunny, loch ness monster, etc. Everything is real until proven otherwise.
I clearly understand what is going on. Its claim that being an atheist, just means there's a lack of belief, so you don't have to support an answer or a claim. When the M-W definition of says atheist is a person who believes that God does not exist.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist
if you don't like that definition, take it up with them.
Believing something does not exist is not a claim.I clearly understand what is going on. Its claim that being an atheist, just means there's a lack of belief, so you don't have to support an answer or a claim. When the M-W definition of says atheist is a person who believes that God does not exist.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist
if you don't like that definition, take it up with them.
If you truly lack of belief...you gave the I don't know which is the agnostic answer.
If you don't have an answer, why you do object to my answer? When to you weren't strong enough to commit an answer?
Yeah in essence, you cannot prove or disprove God, Big Foot, Santa etc etc because we don't know everything about everything
90 percent of world, doesn't believe in Big Foot though
Believing something does not exist is not a claim.I clearly understand what is going on. Its claim that being an atheist, just means there's a lack of belief, so you don't have to support an answer or a claim. When the M-W definition of says atheist is a person who believes that God does not exist.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist
if you don't like that definition, take it up with them.
Beliefs are not claims.
If you're making the claim that GOD exists and should be considered as a cause for how life was created then the first thing you have to do is prove that GOD exists. That is the burden of proof.
I have no burden of proof because I am not making a claim.
What the hell have you been reading?Believing something does not exist is not a claim.I clearly understand what is going on. Its claim that being an atheist, just means there's a lack of belief, so you don't have to support an answer or a claim. When the M-W definition of says atheist is a person who believes that God does not exist.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist
if you don't like that definition, take it up with them.
Beliefs are not claims.
Wait I though a lack of belief isn't a belief?
How can you ask this question after posting the definition several times?So now atheism is a belief?
No it is not.Ok its a belief
No. I've never said this.You are the one, who said my belief that God exists was a claim
If you're making the claim that GOD exists and should be considered as a cause for how life was created then the first thing you have to do is prove that GOD exists. That is the burden of proof.
I have no burden of proof because I am not making a claim.
I think you should repeat this question out loud to yourself cuz it doesn't make sense.So now that you admit to BELIEVING that something does not exist is not a claim?
Which is what?Which is it?
No.Im using the M-W dictionary term..How am I twisting the word?
If you're making the claim that GOD exists and should be considered as a cause for how life was created then the first thing you have to do is prove that GOD exists. That is the burden of proof.
I have no burden of proof because I am not making a claim.
Yes you said my belief was a claim
If you're making the claim that GOD exists and should be considered as a cause for how life was created then the first thing you have to do is prove that GOD exists. That is the burden of proof.
I have no burden of proof because I am not making a claim.
My belief is that God exists
Do you not know why I did that? Why I brought up the word claim?I never introduced the word CLAIM into the discussion....Thats your word
You must not believe anything in the universe thenNo one here can prove that Santa* doesn't exist. And if you claim he doesn't exist, the burden of proof on you. Why is that so hard to understand?
*or Bigfoot, Easter Bunny, loch ness monster, etc. Everything is real until proven otherwise.
No it can not.That argument could work if they are making no claim.
Again you clearly seem to not be able to properly grasp the meaning of these definitions.But by definition the atheist is making the claim..."God doesn't exist"
Not believing in something or lack of belief is not a claim.
If you can't understand that you'll continue to be stuck in this cycle of ignorance.
Cuz you're arguing from the conclusion instead of the premise.No one here can prove that Santa* doesn't exist. And if you claim he doesn't exist, the burden of proof on you. Why is that so hard to understand?
*or Bigfoot, Easter Bunny, loch ness monster, etc. Everything is real until proven otherwise.
You don't start at the endpoint and try to argue your way to the beginning.
On it's face, if you met a person who never heard of Bigfoot they'd have no reason to believe in Bigfoot. After explaining what Bigfoot is to that person it would still be up to you to prove his existence. That person has no reason to believe or a reason to say either way if Bigfoot exists.
There seriously seems to be a fundamental miscomprehension with some of yall when it comes to arguing claims.
I'm lost on yall being unable to understand that. I gotta figure it's a clear agenda and bias on your end to try to make not making a claim the same as making a claim to have the burden of proof apply to both.
If you say I believe ____ and when someone says if you're making the claim that _____ and you reply and never dispute the if the implication is that you are making the claim.Sure you didn't imply it
Person A"I believe Atlantis once existed"
Person B "If you're the idiot making the claim Atlantis is once existed, the burden of proof is on you"
Person A"You just called me an idiot ! >: "
Person B "No! I used the word If. "
Person A "But only me and you are having an conversation"
Person B "I used the word if, I wasn't talk to you or about you"
Person A "Ok its cool , you used the word if"
Geez