Almost a year since the election---Do you regret voting for Obama?

Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith

Originally Posted by Knivesdesu

Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith

Originally Posted by Knivesdesu

I didn't vote for Obama, I voted against McCain, a fact I'm not entirely happy with.

But here is my question, do you honestly believe that Nader is qualified to run a country? Granted I voted for him in my first election (2000) but the idea of that man taking a job as complex as president of the United States scares the hell out of me. One of my main issues with Obama is he is all unachievable rhetoric, but Nader is living on the moon in comparision.
Not qualified? A man who has accomplished this:


Instrumental in the passing of the following legislation:
  • Clean Air Act
  • Clean Water Act
  • Consumer credit disclosure law
  • Consumer Product Safety Act
  • Co-Op Bank Bill
  • Federal Coal Mine Health and Safety Act
  • Foreign Corrupt Practices Act
  • Freedom of Information Act
  • Funeral home cost disclosure law
  • Law establishing Environmental Protection Agency
  • Medical Devices safety
  • Mine Health and Safety Act
  • Mobile home safety
  • National Automobile and Highway Traffic Safety Act
  • National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act
  • Natural Gas Pipeline Safety Act
  • Nuclear power safety
  • Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA)
  • Pension protection law
  • Safe Water Drinking Act
  • Tire safety & grading disclosure law
  • Whistleblower Protection Act
  • Wholesome Meat Act
  • Wholesome Poultry Product Act
If anyone, Nader would be the ideal president. The man's WHOLE life is dedicated to fighting for consumers and all people in this country-- to him serving the public is a vocation. He's done more for American than most presidents.

Again, as I said, I voted for Nader in 2000 & have seen him speak multiple times, so I am well aware of the accomplishments which he and his supporters feel the need to speak on ad nauseum. But again, what in his vast experience as a consumer advocate proves to you he is qualified to run one of the most powerful nations in the world? I appreciate his dedication, but no part of any of these accomplishments tell me that he is able to make hard decisions reguarding the nations welfare or foriegn policy. You can have the best intentions in the universe, you can be the most honest and above board individual, but that does not mean you can run a country. Next you are going to tell me you would vote for Michael Moore. Don't get me wrong, I would say alot of the same things about Obama, but we need a canidate with both credability and leadership qualities. Nothing about Ralph Nader suggests to me he has any ability to lead. My assumption is that this was your first election though, so I can only hope this will provide a learning experience for you in the future.
Don't speak down to me. I've voted multiple times for Nader and will continue to do so as long as he runs.

Maybe those who voted for a candidate who chose to hand a free $700 Billion to corporate crooks who should be in jail need a "learning experience".
Dude you vote for Nader you have no ground to talk about "learning experience".. He has been running since my dad was a kid and thereason he gets nowhere near the Presidency is because he is not fit to be it.. He is yesterday's Ron Paul..
 
Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

OBAMA is a Joke. I see some people finally starting to see it (except on NT)
this ...
Agreed.
3 people agreeing Obama is a joke and not 1 giving any reason why.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you guys to support your statements.
whats the point? Arguing with a NT'r is useless. all they do is throw corny lines followed by a dozen. "
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I have a question. I really don't know much about politics but I was wondering..Obama or not, what is expected of a president 10 months into his campaign?
 
Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

I have a question. I really don't know much about politics but I was wondering..Obama or not, what is expected or a president 10 months into his campaign?


Peace in Palestine, all troops out of the middle east, Universal Health Care, closure of torture camps, economy back to 1950s levels.
 
Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith

Originally Posted by Knivesdesu

Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith

Originally Posted by Knivesdesu

I didn't vote for Obama, I voted against McCain, a fact I'm not entirely happy with.

But here is my question, do you honestly believe that Nader is qualified to run a country? Granted I voted for him in my first election (2000) but the idea of that man taking a job as complex as president of the United States scares the hell out of me. One of my main issues with Obama is he is all unachievable rhetoric, but Nader is living on the moon in comparision.
Not qualified? A man who has accomplished this:


Instrumental in the passing of the following legislation:
  • Clean Air Act
  • Clean Water Act
  • Consumer credit disclosure law
  • Consumer Product Safety Act
  • Co-Op Bank Bill
  • Federal Coal Mine Health and Safety Act
  • Foreign Corrupt Practices Act
  • Freedom of Information Act
  • Funeral home cost disclosure law
  • Law establishing Environmental Protection Agency
  • Medical Devices safety
  • Mine Health and Safety Act
  • Mobile home safety
  • National Automobile and Highway Traffic Safety Act
  • National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act
  • Natural Gas Pipeline Safety Act
  • Nuclear power safety
  • Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA)
  • Pension protection law
  • Safe Water Drinking Act
  • Tire safety & grading disclosure law
  • Whistleblower Protection Act
  • Wholesome Meat Act
  • Wholesome Poultry Product Act
If anyone, Nader would be the ideal president. The man's WHOLE life is dedicated to fighting for consumers and all people in this country-- to him serving the public is a vocation. He's done more for American than most presidents.

Again, as I said, I voted for Nader in 2000 & have seen him speak multiple times, so I am well aware of the accomplishments which he and his supporters feel the need to speak on ad nauseum. But again, what in his vast experience as a consumer advocate proves to you he is qualified to run one of the most powerful nations in the world? I appreciate his dedication, but no part of any of these accomplishments tell me that he is able to make hard decisions reguarding the nations welfare or foriegn policy. You can have the best intentions in the universe, you can be the most honest and above board individual, but that does not mean you can run a country. Next you are going to tell me you would vote for Michael Moore. Don't get me wrong, I would say alot of the same things about Obama, but we need a canidate with both credability and leadership qualities. Nothing about Ralph Nader suggests to me he has any ability to lead. My assumption is that this was your first election though, so I can only hope this will provide a learning experience for you in the future.
Don't speak down to me. I've voted multiple times for Nader and will continue to do so as long as he runs.

Maybe those who voted for a candidate who chose to hand a free $700 Billion to corporate crooks who should be in jail need a "learning experience".
Dude you vote for Nader you have no ground to talk about "learning experience".. He has been running since my dad was a kid and the reason he gets nowhere near the Presidency is because he is not fit to be it.. He is yesterday's Ron Paul..
The reason he doesn't get votes is because he's against the corporate choke hold on Washington. Where do you think Obama and McCain got alot of their dough? Who runs the debate commission? The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) was established by the R's and D's in 1987. Ever sincethen I believe only one candidate (Ross Perot) was allowed to debate--- he got 19 million votes.

How is Nader not fit to be President? You have yet to explain this and from your argument it seems like you believe this is the case because the corporateowned media doesn't give him (or any other 3rd party candidates) much air time.
 
Originally Posted by Friendliest Ghost

When are the "Look what Bush left him with" arguments going to fall to the wayside?

He's had enough time to win a nobel peace prize but not fix what bush left him. Fall back bro.
 
Obama has done many great things since getting in office, but still has a lot to do, and has not done some things he says he would. A lot of it though is outof his control, you can only do so much. To people calling Obama a joke, you telling me we be better off With McCain and Pailin???? %+%+%
 
Originally Posted by WarMachine

Originally Posted by Stay Lurkin

I have a question. I really don't know much about politics but I was wondering..Obama or not, what is expected or a president 10 months into his campaign?


Peace in Palestine, all troops out of the middle east, Universal Health Care, closure of torture camps, economy back to 1950s levels.
 
Obama hasn't done anything great.. where is the change?
McCain was ehh until he screwed up and chose Palin

Hopefully 2012 will bring some better candidates to the table
 
Originally Posted by Kickmatic23

Obama hasn't done anything great.. where is the change?
McCain was ehh until he screwed up and chose Palin

Hopefully 2012 will bring some better candidates to the table
Couldn't agree more. Even tho I voted for mccain I wasn't happy with him.
 
Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

OBAMA is a Joke. I see some people finally starting to see it (except on NT)
this ...
Agreed.
3 people agreeing Obama is a joke and not 1 giving any reason why.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you guys to support your statements.
whats the point? Arguing with a NT'r is useless. all they do is throw corny lines followed by a dozen. "
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and a "U MAD!?"
My swagger is on a zillion
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U MAD!?
 
Regrets you ask???.....hmmmm..........Na

Hasnt effected my situation in any way........

made me proud that we as a people can move foward...and set free from some traps......
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Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by Friendliest Ghost

When are the "Look what Bush left him with" arguments going to fall to the wayside?
He's had enough time to win a nobel peace prize but not fix what bush left him. Fall back bro.
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Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

OBAMA is a Joke. I see some people finally starting to see it (except on NT)
this ...
Agreed.
3 people agreeing Obama is a joke and not 1 giving any reason why.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you guys to support your statements.
whats the point? Arguing with a NT'r is useless. all they do is throw corny lines followed by a dozen. "
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and a "U MAD!?"
Its no point in arguing with Niketalkers is right. Especially when it comes to Politics.

Its been 10 months right?? had we seen changes???? some, but nothing really that you can say has helped the country out. Stimulus package, helped out theeconomy??? NO. All I see Obama doing is winning bogus awards, bowed to Middle eastern Kings and act like a celebrity. Dude your the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITEDSTATES OF AMERICA, STEP UP OR STEP ASIDE. Reform the health care issue, Get people back to work, work with Republicans to get solutions to tackle the issues athand. Tell you what Obama, instead of waisting some loot on that trip to Oslo to accept your so call "Nobel Prize" why dont you fly out to Cali andmeet people in my area that are looking for a Job or need some help.

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@ Niketalkers still on his jock.
 
i cant wait for the pirate party
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I didnt vote, and i regret not voting. I would've voted from him though, and i wouldn't have regret it.
 
Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

CharmCityKid wrote:

i didn't vote. that was my way of protesting this whole illusion of choice. democrats and republicans are essentially like 2 factions OF THE SAME PARTY.
they have only FURFACE DIFFERENCES while having the same common ULTIMATE GOAL. what is that goal?? NEW WORLD ORDER!! we're done either way man. i already
knew obama was a controlled puppet. the presidency is nothing more than a puppet seat. anyone who knows anything about the inner workings of this country
knows this. that way, when the ppl get tired of the way things are going, the ones who are really running things can easily swap out the puppet while they
still run the show from behind the scenes, void of any public scrutiny.




also, us black folks have absolutely no excuse for failure now, do we?? i mean, considering we have a black man in office now. that means ANYTHING is
possible, right??
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btw, my suit is flame proof, so kids flame away!!
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Let me guess JFK was the last real president not controlled....


And presidents now are all controlled by an all powerful and secretive select few bankers, yet who leave us clues about their devious plots.




And the federal reserve is the root of the problem? Am I right.






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You conspiracy theorist make me laugh. Such elaborative theories, that
explain simple things in a much more complex and unlikely fashion.






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i'm not a conspiracy theorist. it seems that is the only phrase u ppl know when anyone says something on this topic that is against conventional wisdom.
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it's ok tho fam, i understand. the programming runs deep and the natural reaction is to not wanna believe this nightmare we're about to be living isreal. denial. i'm past that tho. i'm now at the stage of acknowledging and accepting as fact what has been hidden in plain sight; right in front of ourfaces. all the signs are right there. but again... denial.

as far as kennedy, he def. had his flaws, but there is a reason he was assassinated by the CIA fam. he gave a famous speech in which he spoke about hisintentions on "letting the captives go free." do u know what "captives" it was that he was speaking of?? he was talking about theisraelites... God's chosen ppl, the REAL jews. who am i talking about?? black americans, native americans, latinos, etc. the real decendents of Christ andhis 12 disciples. that is why kennedy was assassinated fam.

in case u ain't know the president is to do what he's told. otherwise he dies. it's really that simple.

discuss...
 
At some point I have come to the disheartening realization that regardless of who is in office at the end of the election, it's all a bunch of politicalprotocol to weasel theirself in office....I mean I already knew that but wanted to give Obama an honest chance despite my usual mistrust in politicians....sofar it's the same ol` same ol'...
 
Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by Whateversclever

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

OBAMA is a Joke. I see some people finally starting to see it (except on NT)
this ...
Agreed.
3 people agreeing Obama is a joke and not 1 giving any reason why.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you guys to support your statements.
whats the point? Arguing with a NT'r is useless. all they do is throw corny lines followed by a dozen. "
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and a "U MAD!?"
Its no point in arguing with Niketalkers is right. Especially when it comes to Politics.

Its been 10 months right?? had we seen changes???? some, but nothing really that you can say has helped the country out. Stimulus package, helped out the economy??? NO. All I see Obama doing is winning bogus awards, bowed to Middle eastern Kings and act like a celebrity. Dude your the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, STEP UP OR STEP ASIDE. Reform the health care issue, Get people back to work, work with Republicans to get solutions to tackle the issues at hand. Tell you what Obama, instead of waisting some loot on that trip to Oslo to accept your so call "Nobel Prize" why dont you fly out to Cali and meet people in my area that are looking for a Job or need some help.

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@ Niketalkers still on his jock.
 
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