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Am I alone in wanting to go after Rondo next season? I don't think he's worth what he thinks he's worth, but he's a lot of fun to watch.
i'd take him in a second. He wants 12 mill a year, right now the C's are offering 9.
 
Yeah, I don't know exactly what I think he's worth being that he doesn't have a jump shot and can't hit free throws, but he's still one ofmy top three favorite point guards in the league. I'd love to see him in a Knick uniform.
 
I want Rondo badddddd...I really believe dude is the truth, in D'antoni's system he would be a probbbblllleeeeemmmmm. Plus he is arguably the bestdefensive pg in the game right now too. He also has improved every year since he been in the league, which shows he is a hard worker. He came into camp jackedand supposedly spent all summer working with Mark Price on his shooting. I think the C's will keep him but him and LeBron would be too nasty together.
 
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I'll be switching back and forth with the majority of my attention going to the Knicks. Baseball has the be most most boring *%*@%@% thing on television.

Am I alone in wanting to go after Rondo next season? I don't think he's worth what he thinks he's worth, but he's a lot of fun to watch.

Nope.. as soon as i seen a few articles saying he didn't want an extension i was thinking about it
 
i guess im alone on not wanting him.
i remembe this off season when the C's wanted to trade him because of his lockeroom problems+extension....
hes a real talened point guard though. might have to work on that FT shooting and jumpshot...
 
any of you see that play with rondo having 3 rebounds and hustling? He would fit in great. just needs a jumpshot.
 
Im thinking about it, D'antoni's offense is good, i don't mind the extra passing that he want, shoot if you're open.
But one thing i can't stand is how everyone lines up at the three point line and the C is never in the post. Even if we got Dwight Howard... He would be atthe 3PT line
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Guess i wont be alone watching the Knicks
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cant front as much as i hate him, i was thinking about him right away when i heard he will be a FA next season
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looks like I may be able to watch the opener if it keeps raining for tonight's yankees game

edit: Mez One with the Team Yankees?!
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[h1]Charles Barkley rips Knicks' president Donnie Walsh for bad management[/h1]
BY Frank Isola
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Charles Barkley thinks Knicks president Donnie Walsh is making a bad choice to tank two seasons in an effort to gain LeBron James as a free agent.

Charles Barkley believes that Donnie Walsh's decision to essentially tank two seasons with the hopes of possibly landing LeBron James is bad management.

"When you set up yourself by basically saying, 'We're going to (stink) for the next two or three years,' I don't think there is any way that can be good for your team," Barkley said. "They're not going to win because those guys know they're not going to be here next year. To expect them to give 110% is unrealistic."

Seven of the 14 players on the Knicks' roster are in the final year of their contracts, including Al Harrington, Larry Hughes, David Lee and Nate Robinson. Those expiring contracts will create much-needed salary cap space for the 2010 free agent class, possibly featuring James and Dwyane Wade.

Walsh, the Knicks' president, didn't add a significant player during the offseason because he didn't want to compromise the organization's long-term plans. The Knicks, who open the 2009-10 season Wednesday in Miami, finished 32-50 last season and aren't expected to be much better this season.

"The Knicks don't have a good team," said Barkley, the TNT analyst. "I think waiting to do all the free agency thing has hurt the camaraderie and chemistry on the team. Those guys aren't dumb. They know they're not going to be around."

Barkley and his TNT cohorts Kenny Smith and Ernie Johnson met with reporters in Manhattan yesterday on the eve of the NBA opening.

James' future will be a hot topic all year. The Cavaliers' superstar can become a free agent on July 1 and even Barkley admitted that if James doesn't return to Cleveland, he will end up in New York. However, Barkley would like to see James remain with the Cavs.

"LeBron James should stay in Cleveland," Barkley said. "I hope he does. He has a unique opportunity to be drafted in your home state and be a legend. I just think that's a great story."

SO SORRY: Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv coach Pini Gershon sent a letter of apology to NBA commissioner David Stern and Walsh for refusing to the leave the Garden court in a timely manner after being ejected during the third quarter of a preseason loss to the Knicks at the Garden. After 10 minutes of coaxing by NBA security people and a rabbi, Gershon finally walked to the locker room.
 
[h1]Knicks looking to avoid 9th straight losing season[/h1]
By MARC BERMAN

Last Updated: 7:08 AM, October 28, 2009

Posted: 2:43 AM, October 28, 2009

MIAMI -- While the World Series opens in The Bronx tonight, the Knicks begin their season in sunny South Beach against Miami. But this definitely is not aFall Classic.

If you haven't heard, the Knicks are expected to stink this season, and the stench could start tonight in the season opener once Dwyane Wade getsthrough with them. Wade torched them for 55 and 46 points in the prior two meetings in Miami.

"Most teams are like prizefighters," said Knicks president Donnie Walsh, who will make the Knicks' initial road trip to Miami-Charlotte."At some point you want to get in the ring. We've reached that point."

Wade has the ability to knock out any team, let alone the Knicks, among the league's tomato cans. The Knicks are a solid bet to post their ninthstraight losing season, a streak that would set a new franchise record.

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FRESH START: Al Harrington and the Knicks will kick off the new season against Dwyane Wade and the Heat tonight in Miami.


Only a bust-out season from prized prospect Danilo Gallinari, who starts the season as a reserve after an erratic preseason, or a major upswing in their team defense can lift them to a record significantly better than last season's 32-50.

Even Walsh does not sound convinced this group can make the playoffs. His decision not to make any summer upgrades to protect their 2010 cap space to pursue LeBron James, Wade etc., has bought him a grace period of another year.

"I think we can be a good team," Walsh said. "I know it's being written we're not going to be a good team, but we have to go out and prove that."

Asked if he thinks they can finish among the top eight, Walsh said, "I don't know. That's our goal. I think we can if we play smart and together. Until you do it -- and we haven't done it -- you can't say, 'Yeah, we're going to do it.' "

The Knicks' gaping weakness will be exposed tonight when they look to weather Wade's storm. The Knicks don't have an All-Star candidate on the roster. In Wade's 46-point showing last spring, Gallinari sparked Wade's rampage, angering the superstar by accidentally elbowing him in the mouth, drawing blood.

"I think you need someone to distort the defense, someone they got to worry about all the time," Walsh said. "Someone will have to develop into that on this team. Or it could be one guy a night. (But) I still think a good team can win."

Wade willed Miami to a 43-39 finish. Ever the optimist, coach Mike D'Antoni says he's "shooting for 40 (wins). I think we got to get in the 40's, and that's what we'll be trying to do."
The opening-night starting lineup has Chris Duhon at point guard, Wilson Chandler at shooting guard and a front line of Al Harrington, Jared Jeffries and David Lee.


Considering D'Antoni's speedball offense relies heavily on their 3-point prowess, the Knicks' starting five is an average outside-shooting quintet. D'Antoni will bring Gallinari and sparkplug Nate Robinson off the bench.

D'Antoni desperately wanted to start Gallinari but he shot just 30.6 percent in preseason and did not earn the job.

"He was trying to find his legs, his niche," D'Antoni said. "He can start tomorrow. I feel like today this is the way to go. He shouldn't consider himself anything other than a starter."

If the Knicks fall out of the race by March, there is enough hope youngsters Gallinari, Chandler and perhaps rookies Toney Douglas and Jordan Hill demonstrate their promising futures. Hill, their lottery pick, may not get a big chance, failing to crack the rotation. Hill will not get on the court tonight unless it is garbage time.

"I have confidence we'll have good players on this team, free agents would say, yeah, 'I'd like to play with him,' " Walsh said.
 
charles can eat a #!%$

even if lebron wasn't a free agent in 2010 we would NEED TO CLEAR CAP SPACE. is it that hard to understand? everyone praises chuck a little TOO much. stickto saying outlandish @!$@ on TNT
 
The Knicks are promoting the new season with a single verb, a directive to their fans: "Declare."As in, declare your allegiance, your passion, your pride. The phrases flash across the team'sWeb site.

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To those themes, the marketing folks might add a few more: patience, tolerance, blind faith.

The Knicks open the season Wednesday night in Miami and will once again test the fortitude of their fans. By their own estimation, the Knicks will bemediocre at best and quite possibly headed for a ninth straight losing season.

The payoff is supposed to come next July, in the form of LeBronJames or Dwyane Wade or some other sparkling free-agent star. The Knicks have been hoarding salary-cap space to make that dream possible.

But the short-term result is a lackluster roster that got no significant upgrades this summer, and will most likely remain unchanged for the next eightmonths. So all the Knicks can do is speak hopefully of a .500 record and a playoff berth, while trying to refute the perception that this is a throwawayseason.

"We're not even close to being a throwaway," Coach MikeD'Antoni said Tuesday. "We're ready to try to make the playoffs and have a great season. And hopefully, the fans will enjoy what we'redoing."

It will be a difficult task. The Knicks are projected to finish in the bottom third of the Eastern Conference.

Viewed through the prism of July 2010, the season holds one great intrigue: Who are the Knicks, and are they a team worth joining?

Because of the N.B.A.'s salary-cap rules, the Knicks cannot outspend any other team to land asuperstar. In fact, James and Wade can make millions more by staying put. D'Antoni is tremendously popular among N.B.A. stars, but his charm and hiswide-open offense will get the Knicks only so far on the recruiting trail. Ditto for the mystique of Madison Square Garden and the lure of Madison Avenue.

So the Knicks may have to rely on another asset: their players. They need Danilo Gallinari, the sixth overall draft pick in 2008, to fulfill his promise asan offensive star. They need Wilson Chandler to gain confidence as a go-to scorer. They need David Lee to keep collecting rebounds by the dozen.

At some point, the Knicks presumably have to show some progress and some promise, and the ability to help a superstar realize his championshipambitions.

"That's the logic," said the TNT commentator Kenny Smith, assessing the free-agent decisions of James and Wade. "Because the criticism ofyour move is: Did you go to win? And if you're going and you can't win, then why did you move?"

He concluded, "You 100 percent have to go somewhere and win, and have a chance to win."

N.B.A. executives and scouts are generally skeptical about the Knicks' young core. Gallinari needed back surgery last spring and must prove he is morethan a 3-point specialist. Chandler is a versatile athlete, but so far an ordinary player. Lee is a rugged rebounder and interior scorer, but he is lacking asa defender and may have already reached his limits. Jordan Hill, the Knicks' 2009 lottery pick, had a forgettable preseason.

"We have to keep developing the young guys that we are going to go forward with, and then win," D'Antoni said. "I think Wilson and Galloand different guys on the team can be very good players. We need to put them up a notch. And that would mean a lot of wins. So it kind of goes hand inhand."

Four of the Knicks' top rotation players - Lee, Nate Robinson, Chris Duhon and Al Harrington - are free agents next summer and may have to be waived toclear cap space. That, too, makes the sales job difficult.

There is unquestionably an increased urgency for the Knicks' three best young players - Gallinari, Chandler and Lee - to grow up and deliver soon.

"It would be true whether I was going into free agency or not," said DonnieWalsh, the team president. "I have confidence that we'll have good players on this team that free agents will say, 'Yeah, that guy, I'dlike to play with him.' "

Yet Gallinari, who is considered the Knicks' brightest prospect, will open the season on the bench after a rough preseason. D'Antoni said he wouldopen the season with Duhon and Chandler at guard and Lee, Harrington and Jared Jeffries in the frontcourt.

In Cleveland, James is already playing with three All-Stars, although two of them - Shaquille O'Neal and Zydrunas Ilgauskas - will be free agents. Next summer, James may be mentally lining upGallinari, Chandler and Lee against the Cavaliers' Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao and Anthony Parker.

Can the Knicks make a compelling enough case? Will they be more attractive to Wade or James or Chris Bosh than the other half-dozen teams that are projectedto have substantial cap room?

Smith, who was part of two championship teams in Houston, is not convinced. He considered the Knicks' roster and their coach, their arena and theircity, and concluded simply, "That list isn't enough."

The Knicks have 82 games to prove otherwise.
 
Pretty big one IMO.

Not to make it sound like I'm not expecting good things from this team BTW.

I'm guessing between 32-37 or so. Who knows? 37 might be good enough for an 8 seed.
 
barkley has no clue what he was talking about.
i retract my statement telling him to become a GM.
and i really dislike the fact everyone puts us under the rock...are we really that bad?
dont answer that question
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