2020-21 NBA Offseason thread: Officially a wrap

[HOU$TON]

Pretending like the rockets haven’t surrounded James harden with the right amount of talent is just not true

I believe he has had talent to some extent but if you look at his peers he has not had the talent they have had. That is just a fact. You can literally go down the list of top players in the league bron, KD, curry, kawhi and hardens running mates don’t stack up aside from the rockets 2018 team.

The whole point of the rockets starting to chuck 3s was to overcome the talent disparity they faced vs GSW in the first place by gaining a mathematical advantage

 

[lovehateself]

he pushed to fire Kevin McHale, who hasn't coached since then because he's a bad coach. Has he even been interviewed?
he pushed dwight howard out of town, who is now on his 5th team in 5 seasons.
he pushed chris paul out of town, who at the time of the trade was viewed as the worst contract in basketball because he was getting 40Ms and couldn't score on Jonas Jerebko or Kevon Looney.



where is this wealth of talent the rockets surrounded James with?

and Westbrook

all those guys above were still considered top 10-20 talents in the league at the time of their arrival to houston

you really gon act like he didnt sign off any those acquisitions?

 

[MVP]

Me watching all y'all come around on Jim Harden...

Bean tried to tell y'all as well. His style of play ain't conducive to winning a chip or allowing anyone outside of a specialist to thrive. I don't think with the way he likes to play that it'll work with any other star level player.

 

[pums]

People defending the clown that is Mchale. Trump supporting , feed Dwight in the low post dude.

 

[art vandelay]

Pretending like the rockets haven’t surrounded James harden with the right amount of talent is just not true

And they didn’t surround him with just any talent either, they surrounded him with Hall of Fame talent and it didn’t work. I can’t remember who said it, but when I brought it up previously the response to me was “what’d “so and so” do since they left Harden?” Like since being dealt away from Harden made those guys scrubs because they weren’t playing alongside his choking ***.

 

[HOU$TON]

Me watching all y'all come around on Jim Harden...

Bean tried to tell y'all as well. His style of play ain't conducive to winning a chip or allowing anyone outside of a specialist to thrive. I don't think with the way he likes to play that it'll work with any other star level player.

Did you tell us this after you requested lebron be traded for harden or after?

 

[JusaVibe]

I really want Harden to pair with another Superstar or star...

Then watch him crumble so the fools with this narrative can go back into hiding when he chokes again in the playoffs

 

[wavycrocket]

I believe he has had talent to some extent but if you look at his peers he has not had the talent they have had. That is just a fact. You can literally go down the list of top players in the league bron, KD, curry, kawhi and hardens running mates don’t stack up aside from the rockets 2018 team.

The whole point of the rockets starting to chuck 3s was to overcome the talent disparity they faced vs GSW in the first place by gaining a mathematical advantage

What is the “talent disparity” here? This same Rockets team was good enough to win 56 games, have two all star/all nba guys and beat a Clippers team with prime Cp3 & Blake.



Where was the “talent disparity” when Alphonso McKinney & Jerebko were on the court in 2019?

They had moments to get it done. They had teams to get it done. They just came up short in their windows. That is IT.

 

[addict4sneakers]

What is the “talent disparity” here? This same Rockets team was good enough to win 56 games, have two all star/all nba guys and beat a Clippers team with prime Cp3 & Blake.



Where was the “talent disparity” when Alphonso McKinney & Jerebko were on the court in 2019?

They had moments to get it done. They had teams to get it done. They just came up short in their windows. That is IT.

The talent disparity is with Steph being better than James.

 

[freeze]

Jesus of Nazareth

Jesus was black. Miss me with UK bible jesus.

 

[MVP]

 

[lovehateself]

Jesus was black. Miss me with UK bible jesus.

jesus was arabic

 

[MVP]

Did you tell us this after you requested lebron be traded for harden or after?

Before, after and during.

 

[IntellectualChemist]

Pretending like the rockets haven’t surrounded James harden with the right amount of talent is just not true

Turned my phone off when pj tucker name was mentioned as a talented teammate

 

[Maximus Meridius]

That boy THT ballin like a fool

 

[HOU$TON]

What is the “talent disparity” here? This same Rockets team was good enough to win 56 games, have two all star/all nba guys and beat a Clippers team with prime Cp3 & Blake.



Where was the “talent disparity” when Alphonso McKinney & Jerebko were on the court in 2019?

They had moments to get it done. They had teams to get it done. They just came up short in their windows. That is IT.

You gone keep posting that video huh. The screen cap is funny. But that warriors team won 65 games and had historical margins of victory that season. Even still game 1&2 were loss by a combined 5 points. That series was closer than the gentleman sweep shows.

Then you always skip to 2019 when CP3 was washed dawg you know that. He literally was offensive fouling on every drive to the basket. He couldn’t get by jerebko or anyone it was sad and everyone was laughing at him in real time. Now we want to act like CP3 was good in 2019

 

[pmatic]

Rockets had enough talent to win in 2018 and 2019.

 

[B Sox]

Can't remember if this was ever posted...

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Harden is just trash in the margins. He consistently has defensive lapses at the absolute worst times, crucial turnovers that kill momentum, takes himself out of the offense and just folds in the clutch. Every time. Like he actually had great numbers overall vs LAL but in the most important game (4) he went 2/11. Then puts up a bunch of empty stats in game 5 which was just extended garbage time with Houston trailing big the whole way

 

[freeze]

I got those 9s the moment he scored the bucket and they dropped. Cherished item.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

How do we know that Harden can't play with another great player? It's just assumed that he couldn't play with guys like Bron, Giannis, Kawhi, KD, AD, Curry, etc? Seems odd.

He's never shown that he can or wants to adjust. You thought him and Russ was the 2nd best team in the west. Surely that had talent to think that. Despite year after year losing with the same game plan, same style of play he has never changed.

 

[reformeDWS]

What is the “talent disparity” here? This same Rockets team was good enough to win 56 games, have two all star/all nba guys and beat a Clippers team with prime Cp3 & Blake.

Where was the “talent disparity” when Alphonso McKinney & Jerebko were on the court in 2019?
They had moments to get it done. They had teams to get it done. They just came up short in their windows. That is IT.

take harden and steph away from their teams and look at what is left. one team has klay, dray, iggy, barnes vs. dwight, josh smith, corey brewer, and trevor ariza.
do the same for 2017-2018 and 2018-2019. one team has KEVIN DURANT, klay, dray, iggy vs. chris paul, eric gordon, pj tucker, and trevor ariza.

that's talent disparity. if you don't think so, you're either severely downplaying how good KD, Klay, Dray, and Iggy are, or are delusional in how good the rockets role players have been over the last few years.

 

[MVP]

It's interesting that Jim was hell bent on getting to Brooklyn though, maybe he's realized about himself finally what some of us have been observing from afar. Self awareness and clarity are key elements to growth.

 

[Quincy McCall]

Outside of the CP years, Rockets we're always lacking in talent, and even in the CP years they were playing dudes like Rivers and Green real mins-- hard to compete with the KD Warriors with just that

 

[pmatic]

Outside of the CP years, Rockets we're always lacking in talent, and even in the CP years they were playing dudes like Rivers and Green real mins-- hard to compete with the KD Warriors with just that

The opportunity was there when Iguodala got hurt in 2018 and Durant got hurt in 2019.