Proposition Joe
formerly rollinwithangel
- Oct 5, 2012
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I'll take Dwight here in San antonio
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Oh man I forgot about woman's tennis tooWomen's soccer is way more entertaining than the WNBA
Women's volleyball too
Easily..
But to be honest, I'd rather watch the us women's soccer team before I watched the us men
And women's tennis > men's
Give my doc my best.the Hamptons are less than an hour from my house
might need to head over there & make my pitch
@highkin
Danny Ainge: "Dwight, you do know that our city is nicknamed Beantown, and beans are a food that make you fart."
Dwight: "Done."
- It is still a longshot that Durant leaves OKC, but LAC I think would be extremely appealing to Durant if they sold him on this. GSW aside, The Clips Big 3 plus KD is probably the most appealing aside from staying in OKC. The team would be thin as hell, but players would come to play with them and some sort of creativity and maneuvering would have to happen in order for KD to join SAS or GSW. Getting KD for GSW would be a for sure upgrade, but they too would have to lose a lot of support pieces just like LAC. Also good for LAC that apparently Blake, CP, and DJ will be at the meeting for KD.
"I don't quite understand, however, why more people aren't talking about the Clippers just... signing Kevin Durant. By my estimation, the team can move all of their salary except for the big 3, and offer Durant a salary pretty damn close to his max--a little over 24 million as opposed to his maximum salary of 26.6 million. If the salary cap comes in higher than the projected 94 million, that gap shrinks, because the Clippers' room grows as the cap does while Durant's max grows approximately 30 cents for every dollar the cap goes up. That means if, for example, the salary cap goes up from 94 million to 96 million, the Clippers would now be able to offer a little more than 26 million to Durant, and his maximum salary would only have moved up to approximately 27.2 million--shrinking his potential pay cut in half.
What would it take to get that money for Durant? Well, it wouldn't be pretty, but it's definitely possible. Right now, the only non-big three contracts that the Clippers have are J.J. Redick ($7.4M), Paul Pierce ($3.5M), and C.J. Wilcox ($1.2M). Wilcox and Redick are both valuable pieces for their salary and the Clippers could move them to any number of teams free of issue, maybe bringing back future picks in return. Pierce's contract is a little rougher, but if he refuses to retire the Clippers could easily make him a package deal with Redick, and teams would still line up to take on 11 million of salary for the sharpshooter. Beyond moving those guys, the Clippers would have to cut Branden Dawson's non-guaranteed contract, trade or renounce Brice Johnson's draft rights, and renounce all of their free agent cap holds. Then there you have it: the Clippers' cap sheet would consist of Paul, Griffin, Jordan, a $24,063,927 salary for Kevin Durant, and eight roster holds.
The obvious criticism is that the roster would have to be filled out with all minimum-salaried players, but if you put those four stars together in your starting lineup, they will come. Players like David West last summer would take less money to join a stacked roster, and we saw it in Miami with the big three: if you put enough star talent on a team, limited role players and ring-chasing veterans can do enough around the edges to win you a championship.
In my estimation, this is probably the most attractive offer that the Clippers can make to Durant--not "we'll trade Blake for you" or even "we'll trade Blake or DJ for a cheap package and then sign you", but "we'll get rid of everything else and put you together with three other superstars". It's a long shot, and the rest of the roster would be thin, but if Kevin Durant makes a commitment to join your team then the other pieces around the edges become incredibly less important. Why are we willing to discuss the Warriors and Spurs trading an important piece (Danny Green and Boris Diaw, or Andre Iguodala) and letting their free agents walk (Boban, Duncan, Manu or Barnes, Ezeli, Rush) to grab Durant, but the Clippers doing the same thing (with Redick and Rivers, Crawford, and Green) is off the table?
When the Clippers' three stars travel with Doc Rivers and Steve Ballmer on Friday to meet with Kevin Durant in the Hamptons, I think that this might be the pitch that they put forward. It could end up being a very hard one for Durant to say no to. "
The idea of KD actually leaving OKC to me is farfetched in general. It's a great situation and from the outside looking in, there's no pressing need for him to leave unless he leget is fed up w/OKC.
LAC Big 4 plus 8 minimum salary players, I don't see it happening but it's interesting none the less
Dwight to the Celtics? The LA hate for that guy would go thru the roof!
Yeah definitely agree on your points. It was encouraging for OKC fans that KD actually commented on the Vic move "it was good, he's my buddy" but at the same time nothing surprises me anymore.. leaving would be shocking but not surprising if that makes sense
The idea of KD actually leaving OKC to me is farfetched in general. It's a great situation and from the outside looking in, there's no pressing need for him to leave unless he leget is fed up w/OKC.
That being said, if he does want to leave and is open to it, joing LAC with Paul, DJ, and Blake is ofr sure appealing, I think. The fact that he wouldn't have to take that big of a paycut for it to happen is even more appealing.
Also, the official Cap hasn't actually been released yet. If it ends up being a bit more than 94 million, the distance between wha tthe Clips would pay and the actual max could shrink even more.
I think the pitch to KD will be this, not trading blake griffin.
Clips gotta push Paul pierce's retirement. If they could somehow keep JJ...and add KD without losing DJ or Blake...my lord.
Paul Pierce was the most washed player in the league last year on the low. Dude really should not be playing basketball anymore
Felt like he wasn't used as the right way. Not sure if it was his age or just Doc Rivers using him and every other SF wrong. He played really clutch for the Wizards the year before.
It isn't, I don't think. In order to free up that space to sign KD to close to the max, they need that bread that's being taken up by PP, JJ, and dawson, CJ, etc.
Yeah, doesn't seem at all possible for LAC to keep JJ and get KD
He'd already be leaving money on the table with JJ gone
To join the Clippers duhWhy would he take a dime less than the max salary? Especially even it doesn't even guarantee you a conference finals birth let alone a chip.