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I agree with shoeking. Not many guys can put up 30+ ppg while shooting a ridiculous 50-40-90 and also being damn near 7'
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i have said this before, but outside my heat team... my favorite player is steph curry. i really thought dude was gonna flop in this league... dude proved me wrong
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Lmao I mean what A.I. did as a scorer in this league is incredible. I admire how fluid and easily KD moves to be 6'10.5 just like how I admire how prolific A.I. was at 6 feet. Both are indeed scoring marvels that come along once in a lifetime. When you look at what A.I. did as a scorer in the league, you shake your head in disbelief because how prolific he was despite his size.
But you have to shake your head times 10 when you watch what KD is doing right now. People aren't gripping how special he is and that's why it's hard for people to conceptualize KD as being the best scorer the league's ever seen. Like I said, when you look at how prolific he is, in conjunction with how efficient he is, it really isn't hard to see why one would have that opinion about him. I mean 32 a game on 50 40 90 is absurd. Just look at what he's doing in the league right now. Its self explanatory.
Buh buh buh...He doesn't have a post game
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I love when senile MJ fans come out the woodwork when someone makes a comment like Durant = potentially greatest scorer ever and after like 2 pages of facts, reality checks, and statistics are brought to light, they're no longer anywhere to be found.
Look at MJ's career arc: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html
Early on: high usage rates, high FG% with a terrible 3 point game. As he added the 3 pt game and fadeaway, he lost some athleticism and his overall FG% went down. Now the senior citizens in this thread would have you believe that MJ at one point had it all: a 3 pt shot, FG% > 55%, fadeaway, post game, and historically high usage rate, hair, ....with dunk contest athleticism to round that... The problem is: that's not true; MJ evolved.
Look at MJ's career arc: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html
Early on: high usage rates, high FG% with a terrible 3 point game. As he added the 3 pt game and fadeaway, he lost some athleticism and his overall FG% went down. Now the senior citizens in this thread would have you believe that MJ at one point had it all: a 3 pt shot, FG% > 55%, fadeaway, post game, and historically high usage rate, hair, ....with dunk contest athleticism to round that... The problem is: that's not true; MJ evolved.
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I'm watching game 7 of the Clips vs GSW and I hate Draymond Green more and more.
He's scum.
He's scum.
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NO.,Lmao I mean what A.I. did as a scorer in this league is incredible. I admire how fluid and easily KD moves to be 6'10.5 just like how I admire how prolific A.I. was at 6 feet. Both are indeed scoring marvels that come along once in a lifetime. When you look at what A.I. did as a scorer in the league, you shake your head in disbelief because how prolific he was despite his size.
But you have to shake your head times 10 when you watch what KD is doing right now. People aren't gripping how special he is and that's why it's hard for people to conceptualize KD as being the best scorer the league's ever seen. Like I said, when you look at how prolific he is, in conjunction with how efficient he is, it really isn't hard to see why one would have that opinion about him. I mean 32 a game on 50 40 90 is absurd. Just look at what he's doing in the league right now. Its self explanatory.
Buh buh buh...He doesn't have a post game
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I mean when u averaging 30+ 50 40 90 to point out his mediocre post game is nitpicking. How efficient this dude is he doesn't need a super polished post fame at this point. That ain't his main problem for him not having a ring right now. Dude is a 2 guard in a 6'11 body. Has the skillset + size combo we've never seen before. Seeing how he is only what 25? I'm interested in seeing what he can become
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you repeatedly call me a Troll fishing for me to say something back but I'm the troll? How is that? Your a childish troll that obviously don't like to get proven wrong..
You don't respond to the previous argument cuz u were proven to sound stupid and had nothing to say in return so I understand why u mad and resort to name calling thru a screen..like a child..
To answer your pointless question..
You say
He has a "more effective " crossover than Bron and tmac but where's he goin with that crossover? he dribbling from the paint out to the 3pt line with that crossover lol where he goin with it answer me that?
Vertical like Vince carter? Again what's he doing with it? Dunking on guys from outside the paint.. What is this space jam? What is he using that vertical for to maximize his game?..
That steph curry like jumpshot u speak of is the only thing thats making his game effective so I don't see how the crossover or vertical is relevant..
You don't like to be put out there when u talk out your *** so you say the word troll thru a screen..
...mature
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Dog I pray KD gets a ring as a #1
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KD does have a post game tho. They run that pick and roll with Russ to get KD on the block all the time. He gets into a triple threat faces up and hits the shot and he can beat his man off the dribble. He can get to the rack and finish or he can stop and pull up. He can back down and hit a turn around or fade. Just because he dont look like Duncan out there dosnt mean he has no post game.
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Do people really think KD can be crazy efficient + score 30+ without a post game or the ability to get to the rim?
This guy really asked where KD was going with his crossovers I swear some people don't watch basketball, just form opinions one day and never change em
This guy really asked where KD was going with his crossovers
I swear some people don't watch basketball, just form opinions one day and never change em
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Chill bro kd vert game aint that serious just hes so long, he can dunk easily and yam it on folks, his vert is 34 inches, which is great for a big
If anything i concur that kd is gonna be the greatest offensive player to touch the game, his gifts are insane, and its not like he needs to add anything just keep on doing what he has already done
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He's using that vertical, crossover, and overall game to put up historically great and efficient seasons in the most advanced era in NBA basketball when it comes to schemes, advanced analytics, strategy, etc. And the near-consensus (would be consensus if MJ nostalgia didn't exist) is that this is clearly the most athletic NBA era the game has ever seen.you repeatedly call me a Troll fishing for me to say something back but I'm the troll? How is that? Your a childish troll that obviously don't like to get proven wrong..
You don't respond to the previous argument cuz u were proven to sound stupid and had nothing to say in return so I understand why u mad and resort to name calling thru a screen..like a child..
To answer your pointless question..
You say
He has a "more effective " crossover than Bron and tmac but where's he goin with that crossover? he dribbling from the paint out to the 3pt line with that crossover lol where he goin with it answer me that?
Vertical like Vince carter? Again what's he doing with it? Dunking on guys from outside the paint.. What is this space jam? What is he using that vertical for to maximize his game?..
That steph curry like jumpshot u speak of is the only thing thats making his game effective so I don't see how the crossover or vertical is relevant..
You don't like to be put out there when u talk out your *** so you say the word troll thru a screen.....mature
What else do you need Durant to do for folks like us to say he's arguably one of the greatest scorers of all time without it causing some type of MJ reaction?
I'm calling you a troll because the evidence is being presented to you and you consistently dodge it or bring up something dumb like KD has no post-up game which by the way, if the threshold for post-up game is LeBron, the MOST efficient post up scorer since prime Shaq, then that means the only player with a post-up game ever is prime Shaq and maybe Wilt.
I'll say it again: your turn troll.
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So Kd can dominate night after night if his shots not going? Cuz hes the best offensive player in the game right?
Kd uses his height crossover and vertical u so highly speak of to maximize his game right? He's the one driving to the hole repeatedly doing some nasty dunks right? Or is that Russ?
They talking bout okc is Westbrooks team after series but kd is the best offensive player in the game?
Yeah I'm sure 1 person ever said the bulls are Scotties team and not jordans after a series right?
You talk ******** get proven wrong and respond by calling ppl a troll..
You win..
Kd uses his height crossover and vertical u so highly speak of to maximize his game right? He's the one driving to the hole repeatedly doing some nasty dunks right? Or is that Russ?
They talking bout okc is Westbrooks team after series but kd is the best offensive player in the game?
Yeah I'm sure 1 person ever said the bulls are Scotties team and not jordans after a series right?
You talk ******** get proven wrong and respond by calling ppl a troll..
You win..
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Lol that's like saying John Wall's vert ain't serious because Nate Robinson exists.
Like you're not wrong but you're not right.
I'm a John Wall fan btw.
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This guy really asked where KD was going with his crossovers
dude made it seem kd was JR or swaggy the way he dribbles in one spot & throws up a bad shot
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Wait what....so the fact that KD plays with one of the most electrifying PGs ever is somehow a slight to KD? Explain that. You'd agree with me if Russ wasn't an electrifying player?So Kd can dominate night after night if his shots not going? Cuz hes the best offensive player in the game right?
Kd uses his height crossover and vertical u so highly speak of to maximize his game right? He's the one driving to the hole repeatedly doing some nasty dunks right? Or is that Russ?
They talking bout okc is Westbrooks team after series but kd is the best offensive player in the game?
Yeah I'm sure 1 person ever said the bulls are Scotties team and not jordans after a series right?
You talk ******** get proven wrong and respond by calling ppl a troll..
You win..
You realize KD just won MVP over a player that folks are comparing to the MJs, Magics, Birds, Duncans, Kobes, etc right? Like that's not domination?
Bruh, how old are you? What do you do for a living. I need more info. Something isn't clicking.
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im sorry its cause i been spoiled by all the great leapers of this decade30 plus inches is good, just seeing dudes with 40+ has me expecting more, but yea i get what you said
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dude made it seem kd was JR or swaggy the way he dribbles in one spot & throws up a bad shot
I can't be mad at Bonez...he's probably drunk off his behind celebrating that it was PG that got hurt and not DRose.
bonez7
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THIS IS WHAT IM RESPONDING TO NOT scorer all that ******** your talking to the other guy..Kd is the best offensive player cuz he puts up numbers and can shoot?..the Greatest makes those around him great.. Kd does that? Bron does mike does kd don't.. He sets up thabo? Adams? Ibaka?russ? no
He doesn't elevate the players around them they'd perform tge same on most other teams w/o kd
I'm saying what is kd doing with that vertical and crossover offensively if hes not doing **** inside the paint? Just answer that...
I'm not sighting KD at all he's the mvp last year he puts up crazy numbers..
BUT HE IS NOT THE GREATEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER THE GAMES EVER SEEN..PERIOD
You haven't answered not one question I've asked you and that says everything
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I can't be mad at Bonez...he's probably drunk off his behind celebrating that it was PG that got hurt and not DRose.
Dont risk getting that pm bro
You know how bulls fans are about their boo pooh
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I said arguably.
Which somehow led to a MJ/DRose troll to come in and argue it.
Am I wrong?
Can I live?
I realize some folks will argue that MJ is a better scorer....hence why I used arguably.
DRose is really cool though, can we be friends again?
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Wasnt that the reason he won mvp, for showing his all around game while russ was out?
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AN THIS WAS PAST HIS PRIME HURT MAC
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ANSWER THE QUESTION:
WHERE IS HE GOING WITH THAT NIFY CROSSOVER OF HIS?
KD = MED I OCRE
ROSE = BREATHTAKING
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