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^ too many ball dominant guards isn't a good thing.
2014 NBA Draft Thread
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Mike Brown is garbage.... He NEVER should have been re-hired!
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Exactly. At least they realized that was a mistake.
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Stauskas is going to be so valuable in the NBA.
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The past like 3 pages have been almost indecipherable.
Anthony Davis (game changing college defender) struggles on D should give you pause in projecting Jabari to be anything other than terrible but not on #NT, he will be fine.
Anthony Davis (game changing college defender) struggles on D should give you pause in projecting Jabari to be anything other than terrible but not on #NT, he will be fine.
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even guys like michael kidd ghilcrist struggle alot . when you exert alot of energy into offense , aka jabari parkers bread and butter . your defense is going to struggle . or vice versa. jabari got that james harden build and game ...and look how gassed he be at the end games...especially the portland series
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I can't tell if cats are trollin or not here.
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The bottom line is there are a lot of subpar wing defenders who still make a big difference offensively. Harden, Gay, Kevin Martin, Melo to an extent even... The poor defense is getting overstated.
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It's takes a very special player to give you great play on both ends.
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yeah and what did I say?
His ceiling depends on his ability to stick at 3.
There is a difference between a huge wing, who has a physical advantage over 90% of NBA SF's, vs an average sized 4.
What I'm saying isn't controversial.
Look Mike Beasley couldn't stay at wing and he was just as productive, just as dominant (maybe more), exact same size with a very similar game to Jabari Parker when he was at K state, how did his career turn out?
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Beasley would be a lot better if he had passion for the game.
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I'm just saying he has the skills to play the 3 and there are plenty of subpar wing defenders. Parker won't be any different.
Beasley? Why are you bringing him up? His skill set didn't hold a candle to Parker's. I don't care how his career turned out
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He would of had a much better career by now if he didn't traded to Minnesota. IMO
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Why? He didn't show anything different before that, that I saw.
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He could have all the passion he wants, he still would have trouble being a productive basketball player on both ends of the floor.
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I'm just saying he has the skills to play the 3 and there are plenty of subpar wing defenders. Parker won't be any different.
Beasley? Why are you bringing him up? His skill set hails in comparison to Parker's. I don't care how his career turned out
A reach?
Pails in comparison?
I see cats have already forgotten what Mike was at K state.
He put up 39 and 14 vs Kansas, how you think that happened? Mike had it all when came to scoring the ball and Jabari is smarter than Mike so he won't be out of league in 5 years but the point remains, Mike hasn't been a useful NBA player and a big part of that is his defense.
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I think I trust most players coming out of Chicago. There's no doubt in my mind Jabari will be a real good player, I just dont think he'll be the best player in this draft.
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Nobody forgot. Beasley did not have the polish Parker has now. What happened to Beasley has nothing to do with Parker's career, bottom line.A reach?
Pails in comparison?
I see cats have already forgotten what Mike was at K state.
He put up 39 and 14 vs Kansas, how you think that happened? Mike had it all when came to scoring the ball and Jabari is smarter than Mike so he won't be out of league in 5 years but the point remains, Mike hasn't been a useful NBA player and a big part of that is his defense.
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Thats all it comes down to if a top prospect wants to reach his full potential, its all about how bad do you really want to be great
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He was decent his first two years, he would of been the scorer off the bench the Heat needed that in 2011.
Playing on a good team would have helped too.
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You are just dead wrong.
He is the exact same type of player, a 3/4, isolation, mid post scorer. Same height, same weight, same standing reach, used in the exact same way in college, both dominated the boards. terrific ball handlers, solid shooters.
How are they different?
Undersized 4's don't put up 38.9 PER in college without polish, you are mis remembering man.
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Parker played a 4 at Duke but he is fully capable of putting the ball on the deck like a guard. The way he will play in the pros will be in a creating, off the dribble role. He is capable of creating for himself and others. Beasley didn't have the same ability and that's why, among other things (dedication, focus, defense) he never panned out in the league. I would not consider Beasley a terrific ball handler at all. He doesn't create shots for himself nor others, he isn't built that way. He's more of a catch and dribble twice for a jumper, or catch in the paint, or catch and face up take two dribbles type.You are just dead wrong.
He is the exact same type of player, a 3/4, isolation, mid post scorer. Same height, same weight, same standing reach, used in the exact same way in college, both dominated the boards. terrific ball handlers, solid shooters.
How are they different?
Undersized 4's don't put up 38.9 PER in college without polish, you are mis remembering man.
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How is Mike Brown garbage?? Those Cavs teams he coached with LeBron where great given with what players he had to work with outside. Plus he was the one who refined LeBron's defensive game. Also with the Lakers, everyone knows he never got a fair share. Almost anyone can admit, even Phil Jackson would have struggled winning with such an injury riddled team. Lastly, the only reason Dan Gilbert re-hired Brown this past season was an attempt to lure LeBron this offseason. However, with such a poor season, Gilbert realized that LeBron returning was a pipe dream, and getting a rookie coach for a massive rebuilding process is needed.
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beasley was the ultimate ball stopper, it was embarrasing to watch at timesjust like scott brooks, his best player hid his weaknesses as a coach & that cleveland offense was terrible during the bron era
