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LMAO @ #amnesia #blackout #bussfam
Kobe stays cracking me up
Kobe stays cracking me up
2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN
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Kevin love has a losing aura. Not a guy who missed the playoffs for the first time in his career. Yes in the playoffs his record isn't great but he's made it. With melo missing it there's now only 3 active players to have never missed it in their career.So you want want to trade picks and some of your young guys for Melo?
Seems to me like Chicago does things the right way. They play well with guys that they draft. Picked up a guy like Augustine who was an afterthought and put him in a position to thrive. Giving up any asset whatsoever for Carmelo Anthony would be a bad look for Chicago. That's all im saying.
If you signed him as a free agent... thats a different story. I still wouldn't want him bringing his losing aura into my locker room though
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I'm definitely on board with that.
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I don't think Melo becomes a Bull this off season , Rose's at this point is to big of a risk.
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imsneakerpimp
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With Phil in NY, anyone suggesting " tanking the season" will be searching for a job
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And? Melo needs a team that plays D, not another fun and gun team. If he's smart he'll go to a strong defensive team
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He gonna meet Melo outside of MSG like
Or have someone break his knees with a billy club lol
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How do you know that's not Phil's plan?
If he's smart he'll stay where people will continue to make excuses for him.
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I don't
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If Melo goes to the Bulls they're going to lose at least Butler & Gibson, so its just Melo, Noah, (Rose) and that foreign guy.
That team won't do ****.
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thats my point right there
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If Melo takes 15 mil they won't have to gut the team. Boozer leaves via amnesty clause, trade Taj and they should be able to squeeze him into their cap I believe.
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Y'all are talking about 80mil melo. We talking about 2014-2015 "pay cut" melo
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The Bulls are right at the cap for next year at $64 million. Cut Boozer and trade Gibson, that's 24 million of the books, well enough to sign Melo and a serviceable replacement for Taj while keeping Butler.
Rose-Jimmy-Melo-PF-Noah equals best team in the east on paper.
If Melo is about that life though. Take 15-17 mil leave the Bulls with 5-7 mil to bring back DJ, Kirk and the euro guy.
Rose-Jimmy-Melo-PF-Noah equals best team in the east on paper.
If Melo is about that life though. Take 15-17 mil leave the Bulls with 5-7 mil to bring back DJ, Kirk and the euro guy.
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Too bad luol is going back to chicago
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Melo is the dude who would rather have had the Knicks trade all of their talent for him then wait 3 months and play on the same team with better players.
He ain't taking less. I think he likes where he's at.
He ain't taking less. I think he likes where he's at.
^ The hate is deep with you man
Will James and Durant burn out?
That chart
Will James and Durant burn out?
We owe a gigantic thank you to Kevin Durant and LeBron James for this regular season. Amid a tumultuous season riddled by injury, they gave us one of the great MVP battles of recent memory. After seesawing back and forth over the past several weeks, Durant managed to edge out James in both real plus-minus and player efficiency rating. It's clear that there's Durant and James, and then there's everybody else.
We can't take these two titans for granted. Not just because we have a pair of all-time greats in their primes at the same position playing on title contenders, but because of something else: They're pushing their bodies to the absolute limit.
Durant played more minutes than any other player in the NBA this season and missed only one game. While other stars rested before the finish line, Oklahoma City Thunder coach Scott Brooks didn't give Durant a break; he played 42 minutes in the season finale. And while Dwyane Wade missed 28 games to rest and treat his troublesome legs, James received only two games at the end of the regular season to catch a breather.
But the astonishing thing is how much work these two stars have put in the past four seasons with almost no rest. With four Finals trips between them, they've played far more minutes than any other player in the league.
Check out the staggering chart below.
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James and Durant are just on another level. Durant has played 2,057 more minutes than the third-highest player on the list, Chris Bosh, and James has put in 165 more minutes on top of that. In fact, James has played almost 5,000 more minutes than Tim Duncan, who ranks 50th in minutes at 9,437.
And that's not even counting the Olympics or preseason competition. That wears on the body as well. According to ESPN Stats & Information, James has played an extra 13 games (330 minutes) in Olympic competition since he came to Miami. By playing in both the 2010 FIBA World Championship and 2012 Olympics, Durant has registered 26 games (694 minutes) of international competition in addition to his NBA duties. So the workload gap between these two titans and the rest of the NBA is actually far wider than shown above.
Above And Beyond
Most minutes played in NBA since 2010-11 season, including playoffs.
Rank Player Minutes
1 LeBron James 14,033
2 Kevin Durant 13,868
3 Chris Bosh 11,811
4 Mike Conley 11,607
5 Monta Ellis 11,597
This much is clear: Over the past three and a half years, James and Durant have essentially crammed in an extra NBA season compared to the rest of the league.
The burnout factor is real, especially when you consider how much more work James and Durant had to absorb this season because of injuries suffered by their star teammates. For the first time since joining the Heat, James actually played the majority of his minutes without Wade on the court. Durant has carried a similar burden with Russell Westbrook undergoing three knee surgeries in an eight-month span. Durant played an NBA-high 3,122 minutes this season -- 99 more minutes than the next-highest workload this season.
You don't get a badge on the sleeve or a plaque on the wall for playing more than 3,000 minutes in a regular season. And recent history shows that all that hard work doesn't yield a championship either. According to 2012 research from ESPN's Henry Abbott, in the previous seven years none of the 3,000-minute club members won a title -- not since the 2004 Detroit Pistons upset the Los Angeles Lakers in the Finals with Ben Wallace clocking in at 3,050 minutes. That's not great news for Durant.
The evidence is damning. More than 100 players since Wallace have burned 3,000 minutes in the regular season -- including some of the biggest names in the sport such as James, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant -- and none have endured long enough in the playoffs to win a title during that time. Only those who played fewer than 3,000 minutes have grasped the Larry O'Brien Trophy recently. Durant hopes the trend is more fluke than for real.
We can't take these two titans for granted. Not just because we have a pair of all-time greats in their primes at the same position playing on title contenders, but because of something else: They're pushing their bodies to the absolute limit.
Durant played more minutes than any other player in the NBA this season and missed only one game. While other stars rested before the finish line, Oklahoma City Thunder coach Scott Brooks didn't give Durant a break; he played 42 minutes in the season finale. And while Dwyane Wade missed 28 games to rest and treat his troublesome legs, James received only two games at the end of the regular season to catch a breather.
But the astonishing thing is how much work these two stars have put in the past four seasons with almost no rest. With four Finals trips between them, they've played far more minutes than any other player in the league.
Check out the staggering chart below.
View media item 922911
James and Durant are just on another level. Durant has played 2,057 more minutes than the third-highest player on the list, Chris Bosh, and James has put in 165 more minutes on top of that. In fact, James has played almost 5,000 more minutes than Tim Duncan, who ranks 50th in minutes at 9,437.
And that's not even counting the Olympics or preseason competition. That wears on the body as well. According to ESPN Stats & Information, James has played an extra 13 games (330 minutes) in Olympic competition since he came to Miami. By playing in both the 2010 FIBA World Championship and 2012 Olympics, Durant has registered 26 games (694 minutes) of international competition in addition to his NBA duties. So the workload gap between these two titans and the rest of the NBA is actually far wider than shown above.
Above And Beyond
Most minutes played in NBA since 2010-11 season, including playoffs.
Rank Player Minutes
1 LeBron James 14,033
2 Kevin Durant 13,868
3 Chris Bosh 11,811
4 Mike Conley 11,607
5 Monta Ellis 11,597
This much is clear: Over the past three and a half years, James and Durant have essentially crammed in an extra NBA season compared to the rest of the league.
The burnout factor is real, especially when you consider how much more work James and Durant had to absorb this season because of injuries suffered by their star teammates. For the first time since joining the Heat, James actually played the majority of his minutes without Wade on the court. Durant has carried a similar burden with Russell Westbrook undergoing three knee surgeries in an eight-month span. Durant played an NBA-high 3,122 minutes this season -- 99 more minutes than the next-highest workload this season.
You don't get a badge on the sleeve or a plaque on the wall for playing more than 3,000 minutes in a regular season. And recent history shows that all that hard work doesn't yield a championship either. According to 2012 research from ESPN's Henry Abbott, in the previous seven years none of the 3,000-minute club members won a title -- not since the 2004 Detroit Pistons upset the Los Angeles Lakers in the Finals with Ben Wallace clocking in at 3,050 minutes. That's not great news for Durant.
The evidence is damning. More than 100 players since Wallace have burned 3,000 minutes in the regular season -- including some of the biggest names in the sport such as James, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant -- and none have endured long enough in the playoffs to win a title during that time. Only those who played fewer than 3,000 minutes have grasped the Larry O'Brien Trophy recently. Durant hopes the trend is more fluke than for real.
That chart
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Ima clear this up since the media keeps being wrong about the Nets. Deron is our PG, Livingston is without a doubt our SG. He plays off the ball, posts up and cuts. Were not winning because Deron is off the ball, Deron is still an elite playmaker.
Livingston is awesome but he's a glue guy and a really really good defender. Not our PG.
Livingston is awesome but he's a glue guy and a really really good defender. Not our PG.
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I honestly see it as a 2-PG backcourt. Don't think that needs to be a slight to Williams or w/e.
do work son
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this. they both handle the ball and "playmake". it's not saying anything negative about deron williams to say that shaun livingston handles the ball. they have 4 capable ball handlers (williams/JJ/pierce/livingston)
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In the same way that even though Pierce plays 4, he's clearly playing Small Forward, not Power Forward.
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