2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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Imo just go by record. There will be normal West and East conference during reg season but when it's playoff time just group it 1-16th in term of overall record for both conference. That way some of the above .500 West teams like Minnie, Dallas can replace sorry below .500 team like Hawks, Knicks, Bobcats etc.
What would be the point of conferences/divisions then?
 
No point in division winners in that system. I think they should set it up like the NFL. 6 teams in each conference, division winners and wild cards. Top two seeds get a bye the other four play a one game playoff at the higher seeded team's arena. Every matchup thereafter will then be a 7-game series.
 
what the NBA needs is a new lottery system.. No reason to reward teams who are "tanking"… Where's the competitive nature in that? 
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what the NBA needs is a new lottery system.. No reason to reward teams who are "tanking"… Where's the competitive nature in that? :{
Where's the competitive nature in a league that doesn't have competitive balance? You have to establish some degree of parity, you can never fully eliminate tanking but certain negative aspects of it can be minimized.

The best idea I've heard is, you freeze the records at the All-Star break/trade deadline and calculate lottery odds based on that. That's usually when teams decide to keep shooting for the playoffs or to self-destruct. Doing it that way removes the incentive to blow up your team midseason to position yourself for a high lottery pick.

That way you would also get more teams trying to play spoiler late in the season, which would make for a lot of interesting games down the stretch. Instead of rolling over, bad teams would continue trying to compete and entertain the fans since their lottery odds are already locked.
 
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Imo just go by record. There will be normal West and East conference during reg season but when it's playoff time just group it 1-16th in term of overall record for both conference. That way some of the above .500 West teams like Minnie, Dallas can replace sorry below .500 team like Hawks, Knicks, Bobcats etc.
That's a good ideal but you know now the schedules would have to change because it wouldn't make since for conference side to play each other 4 times a year..spread it out and I bet travel would be a issue. Let's give the bobcats credit they made the playoff...lol
 
The NBA isn't helping their "competitive balance" by having a system where the 44-30 Mavericks would have a lottery pick while the 31-41 Hawks would not because of where they are geographically located.
 
The NBA isn't helping their "competitive balance" by having a system where the 44-30 Mavericks would have a lottery pick while the 31-41 Hawks would not because of where they are geographically located.

I understand your disappointment but I think if you want it to be fair all across the board you must help the smaller markets more they would be able to keep star and be attractive for players to come. Its hard to change that the seeding process because that's not where the issue is. The East isn't strong as we think.
 
Was thinking about this earlier when I saw it on sportscenter. They have been getting very little coverage with there current winning streak

This has the feel of 2012 all over again. Spurs go into the playoffs hot, wipe out the first round and probably the second round. Then, hit OKC in WCF, who they match up horribly with, and get run out of the gym.
 
first off this was a point made by simmons while back, but a lot of the competitive balance issues have to do with the ineptitude of front offiices in the NBA, it just happens that many of them are in the eastern conference. Even after the past 2 CBAs made it harder for players as UFAs sign with other teams (years-wise and money-wise), and the "woe is me" small market whining (dan gilbert and "basketball reasons" :| ) a lot of teams are still shooting themselves in the foot with terrible signings and terrible drafting and bad team planning.

just take a look at #9-11 in the east (new york, cleveland, detroit) and theres your perfect examples. its not a "large market" vs "small market" thing anymore. look at the playoff teams in the west, aside from dwight in houston there arent many major max-deal free agent signings in that group. good teams/contenders should be able to keep their stars (IMO lebron was a special exception because he WAS that team) add to that the fact major markets like NY, detroit, boston, and LA (both tanking, i know) in the west are not in the playoffs right now and the prohibitive CBA, you cant blame the money anymore.

basically what im saying is that parity would be great but considering the artificial steps the league has done to accomplish this, at some point these teams have to take a look in the mirror. also in any sport, there are winners and losers theres no escaping that. it just happens that this year the majority of winners are in one conference and the majority of losers are in the other conference. these teams dont need anymore saving, they need to smarten up and stop throwing 50 mil at josh smith. NBA darwinism. i dont want to give these idiots another way out of their messes by altering the lottery...as bad as atlanta is compared to dallas, dallas has to compete in a tougher conference and deserves that lotto pick IMO just as much.

also to those saying adjust the playoffs so its 1-16 best records, i dont think thats possible logistics/travel wise. it would be nice, but the conferences/separation is there for a reason.
 
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also to those saying adjust the playoffs so its 1-16 best records, i dont think thats possible logistics/travel wise. it would be nice, but the conferences/separation is there for a reason.

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Another issue with this Best 16 comcept would be that you lose East coast viewers. Those 10PM Western Conference start times are so brutal. And the casual fan isn't about to stay up til 1AM every night for basketball.
 
Spurs with the lowkey 17 game win streak, no biggie.
Given the injuries and how competitive the West is, they've had one of the more impressive seasons in recent memory.

But then again, water is wet.
 
 
Spurs with the lowkey 17 game win streak, no biggie.
Given the injuries and how competitive the West is, they've had one of the more impressive seasons in recent memory.

But then again, water is wet.
Didnt think it was possible but this season is right up there with last season in terms of how good its been. All its missing is like one more statement win and this coming week is full of chances. Indy, GS, and OKC
 
Wizards need the Knicks to lose today...and they clinch a playoff spot. :hat

Damn proud of this squad.
 
Sad because if it were miami or okc we wouldn't hear the end of it
Bingo! Espn would of slammed it onto everyone's face, pull outrageous facts out of their *** and start claiming titles for said teams. Buts it's the Spurs and it's a shame they don't get the same treatment.

Yo right on frink85. Playoff seedings and structure would be a mess like you said. #1-16 sounds great on paper, but it would be ridiculous and improbable to pull off unless the NBA follows the NFL's AFC and NFC structure. I think it's safe for the NBA as a business to keep it how it is. Years like this come around once or twice in a decade. In a few years, if you put aside dumb executive mistakes which will be bound to happen, the East can be as competitive as the West with this strong draft class.
 
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