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Blake Griffin is the best pf. Hands down
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View media item 827219lebron james gifts the entire miami heat team with wwe wrestling championship belts. nba heatles king ray allen, dwyane wade, chris bosh, birdman
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Son what are you talking about?!?!? You do know bball is a team game right....
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The talent around Love is NOT that bad. It's not "never in playoff contention" bad.
His horrible rim defense is a serious issue and points directly to one of the team's biggest problems.
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figures they get wresting belts, they flop more than wwe pros
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NO, not when you just developed a mid range jumper....KLove is all over the arc theres a difference.
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Blakes Defense is just as bad man
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Love, combined with the talent around him is good enough to be a 4 seed in the Eastern Conference.
Love, combined with the talent around him is good enough to be an 11 seed in the Western Conference.
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you're sleeping on the strippers from sac
Not commenting specifically, but I will say I've had some good times in Sac-Town.
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It's more the fact that he and Pek are bad rim protectors, that's the difference between Blake/DJ, LMA/Lopez Dirk/WrightDalembert
The talent around Love is definitely that bad, don't know where you're going there
When your second best player is a PG who scores once a month in the 4th quarter, you're not going to win. Take Kevin Love off this team and they're competing with the Magic and Sixers for Wiggins.
Not to mention injuries decimated them previous years
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I know a lot of people balk at the thought of a free agent joining Dallas, as it has not happened basically ever, but...
We are only paying three guys above five million next year (Calderon 7 million, Ellis 8.7 million, Wright 5 million).
Our three rookies are all less than 1.6 million, and Wayne Ellington can easily be shipped out to get rid of his 2.5 million.
That's only 25 million committed to seven players. Dirk will most likely sign on for somewhere between 10-12 million a year.
That's still 28 million or so in cap space to wiggle around with.
Melo....?
Or hell, maybe even Greg Monroe and Luol Deng. I know it's unlikely that Detroit let Monroe walk, but those are two pieces that Dallas desperately needs to look at. C and SF.
Shawn Marion and Vince Carter both expire at the end of the year, and I can't see either being back. I think they want to pursue opportunities elsewhere. Vince's body language has been so strange this year I have no idea what he's been thinking, and Shawn can probably still make some decent change somewhere.
You already know.
In Cuban & Carlisle I trust.
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Also, Big Game Dame been killing it lately
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his team is not that great, especially in the west.
if it was in the east then.. yea he would be labeled a winner in the sense of getting to the playoffs.
his team cant compete in the west regardless of the stats he puts up
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^^^ These last two pages just prove my original point. Like BHZ said, there's arguments for an against all of them. Its too close to unequivocally call anyone of them the best PF. That's why, to me, its pointless to rank them. But if someone insists on doing so, go for it.
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BHZ ain't fool nobody by throwing Zbo into the convo, we seen that
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Man, I love watching Dirk play.
Austin Rivers got hammered at the end of that game tho
Austin Rivers got hammered at the end of that game tho
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Sactown's finest
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David Lee
That pic is dope to me. I'm a wrestling fan thouhh so yeah...
That pic is dope to me. I'm a wrestling fan thouhh so yeah...
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Let em know who the champs are.
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Gary Neal and Luke Ridnour press conference.
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Yeah but we talking individual talent...idk where all this team talk started... @100027
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Please tell me, how many All-NBA Teams did all those players make while on the Mavericks? And how many All-Stars at that?
Jerry Stackhouse?! Dog...
That wasn't Detroit Pistons Jerry Stackhouse.
He never shot better than 42.8%. His time in Dallas he shot roughly 41%. And ~28-30% from deep. That's HORRENDOUS.
It's like mentioning Vince Carter as a deciding factor on this current team.
Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, and Devin Harris were all GOOD players, but none of those guys were ever like Pau Gasol, Wade, Ray Allen, Manu Ginobili, etc. Those guys were all sidekicks on Championship teams.
The Mavs winning in 2011 is similar to the Pistons beating the Lakers. It was a great team effort, but none of those guys are NBA All-Stars, or All-NBA Players other than Dirk and Tyson Chandler.
My case and point:
Jason Terry since 2011? Dud.
Tyson Chandler since 2011? Decent, but he made a HUGE payday off that year in Dallas.
Jason Kidd since 2011? Nothing, and retired.
JJ Barea since 2011? Dud.
DeShawn Stevenson since 2011? Dud.
Shawn Marion since 2011? Defense hasn't been the same.
Ian Mahinmi? Same as what he was, but a non-factor for the most part.
Brendan Haywood? Dud.
Corey Brewer? Role player, but he has probably played the best out of that group other than Tyson.
Further emphasizing my point...
Josh Howard after Dallas? Dud.
Devin Harris after Dallas? Dud.
Jason Kidd after Dallas? Dud.
And some further points,
OJ Mayo last year? Second-best year of his career.
Tyson Chandler his only year in Dallas? Best of his career.
Monta Ellis this year? Second-best year of his career.
Jose Calderon this year? Best year of his career scoring and shooting-wise.
Dallas has always gotten the most out of their players, and have always had great coaching to bring the most out of their guys. It's Dirk, it's the city, it's the coaching. It isn't that we've had great talent throughout the years.
The best players since Nash left have been Tyson Chandler (One year), Jason Terry (No All-Star/All-NBA appearances), and Jason Kidd (Who was a shell of his former self).
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