2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[shoeking2101]

kobe and duncan were by far the best players over the span of the decade, team success and individual accomplishments

The problem with this is that for multiple portions of the Decade people thought either A.I., VC, or T-Mac, or Lebron, were on par or better than Kobe. So that whole By far the best player over the span of decade isn't really a popular opinion, which is why i'm saying Kobe never had a definitive era.

TD was probably the best player spanning the decade, but...no one was really talking about TD

 

[black migo]

in the decade kobe, tmac, wade and lebron all had better seasons that iverson's best season

sure kids could relate to him because of his height but that has nothing to do with what he did in the nba in comparison to his peers

stop ai's prime>>>>d wade & t mac

 

[osh kosh bosh]

The year he won MVP he was clearly the best player in the league.

Chris Paul, Garrnett, Lebron James all better.


that was a lifetime achievement MVP.

wasn;t the best player.

 

[shoeking2101]

in the decade kobe, tmac, wade and lebron all had better seasons that iverson's best season

sure kids could relate to him because of his height but that has nothing to do with what he did in the nba in comparison to his peers

Kobe's best season is not as great as A.I.'s best season stop that. (Unless you count team success)

T Mac's best season is not as great as A.I.'s best season either.

Lebron? Well yeah

Wade's best season was not as great as A.I's best season either

 

[ballinsam23]

Lifetime achievement MVP?

Kind of like Dirk's MVP award?

 

[black migo]

& pau got robbed of that 2010 finals mvp

 

[sea manup]

 

kobe and duncan were by far the best players over the span of the decade, team success and individual accomplishments

The problem with this is that for multiple portions of the Decade people thought either A.I., VC, or T-Mac, or Lebron, were on par or better than Kobe. So that whole By far the best player over the span of decade isn't really a popular opinion, which is why i'm saying Kobe never had a definitive era.

TD was probably the best player spanning the decade, but...no one was really talking about TD

but the thing is it was

iverson and kobe

then

vc and kobe

then 

tmac and kobe

then

wade and kobe

then

lebron and kobe

might not be in that order but you get the point, he wasnt the clear cut #1 like jordan was in the 90s but he was in the conversation for 10+ years, he was in the convo for best in the league after iverson fell off, after vc fell off, after tmac fell off and until he got hurt last year even wade was declining faster than he was. thats what makes kobe great, he preforms at the highest level while doing so for almost two decades, cant say that about anyone else on that list except maybe lebron in a few years

 

[urbetterthenme]

& pau got robbed of that 2010 finals mvp

PLEASE SAY IT AGAIN BRUH. BEen saying this for years that Pau was the real Finals MVP

 

[kal-el-8]

IDIOTS EVERYWHERE

 

[shoeking2101]

Allen Iverson 04-05
30.7 ppg 4.0 rebs 7.9 ast 42.3% 2.4 Stls

05-06
33.0 PPG 3.2 rebs 7.4 ast 44.7% 1.3 stls

 

[$tacy]

From 06-09 was kobe era. Had ****** hyped to see him play not knowing if dude was gon drop 50 on dudes head. Chris Paul was never the best player in the league. 09-10 is when lebron realized his jumper was mediocre and if he put his head down he can get to the rim every time

 

[shoeking2101]

but the thing is it was

iverson and kobe
then
vc and kobe
then 
tmac and kobe
then
wade and kobe
then
lebron and kobe

might not be in that order but you get the point, he wasnt the clear cut #1 like jordan was in the 90s but he was in the conversation for 10+ years, he was in the convo for best in the league after iverson fell off, after vc fell off, after tmac fell off and until he got hurt last year even wade was declining faster than he was. thats what makes kobe great, he preforms at the highest level while doing so for almost two decades, cant say that about anyone else on that list except maybe lebron in a few years

No one is questioning his Longevity though. The fact that you have to bring up other players even in Kobe's best years proves that he never had an era where he was definitively the best player in the league. He outlasted everyone though which is incredible.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I could give 0 ***** about Chris Paul. Dude was never the best player in the league.

That was the year Lebron turned the corner. He wasnt the best yet.

Chris Paul with David West as his second best player, won 1 less game than the Lakers.

Lebron, Garnett, Chris Paul take your pick all better than kobe.

 

[shoeking2101]

Chris Paul with David West as his second best player, won 1 less game than the Lakers.

Lebron, Garnett, Chris Paul take your pick all better than kobe.

Thank you

 

[urbetterthenme]

Chris Paul with David West as his second best player, won 1 less game than the Lakers.

Lebron, Garnett, Chris Paul take your pick all better than kobe.

Correct

 

[shoeking2101]

From 06-09 was kobe era. Had ****** hyped to see him play not knowing if dude was gon drop 50 on dudes head. Chris Paul was never the best player in the league. 09-10 is when lebron realized his jumper was mediocre and if he put his head down he can get to the rim every time

How was 06-09 Kobe's era? In that timespan A.I., Chris Paul, Lebron, D Wade, all were just as good if not better

 

[mister friendly]

in the decade kobe, tmac, wade and lebron all had better seasons that iverson's best season

sure kids could relate to him because of his height but that has nothing to do with what he did in the nba in comparison to his peers

Kobe's best season is not as great as A.I.'s best season stop that. (Unless you count team success)

T Mac's best season is not as great as A.I.'s best season either.

Lebron? Well yeah

Wade's best season was not as great as A.I's best season either

The NBA voters thought differently when they were constantly selecting Kobe,TMac and Wade to All-NBA teams and NBA MVP voting ahead of AI

 

[hypebeast5]

PLEASE SAY IT AGAIN BRUH. BEen saying this for years that Pau was the real Finals MVP

Should i post the stats again people saying this clearly hate kobe

Pau didnt show up game 2 or 7

 

[black migo]

This debate>>>>superbowl

 

[sea manup]

 

in the decade kobe, tmac, wade and lebron all had better seasons that iverson's best season

sure kids could relate to him because of his height but that has nothing to do with what he did in the nba in comparison to his peers

Kobe's best season is not as great as A.I.'s best season stop that. (Unless you count team success)

T Mac's best season is not as great as A.I.'s best season either.

Lebron? Well yeah

Wade's best season was not as great as A.I's best season either

what are we looking at? just personal accomplishments no team success?

iverson's best season he had a 25.9 per in 06

kobe had 3 seasons with higher PERs than that

tmac's 02-03 season is arguably one of the best of the decade (30 PER)

wade's 08-09 season is also one of the best of the decade (30 PER)

find me iverson's best season and tell me why its better than any of these seasons

 

[shoeking2101]

Allen Iverson 04-05
30.7 ppg 4.0 rebs 7.9 ast 42.3% 2.4 Stls

05-06
33.0 PPG 3.2 rebs 7.4 ast 44.7% 1.3 stls

During Kobe's best years, A.I., Lebron, and D Wade were all just as good if not better than Kobe.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Lifetime achievement MVP?

Kind of like Dirk's MVP award?

nope he was the best player. team had the best point differential, led the league in win shares, second in PER, shot 50/40/90


best player.

 

[black migo]

Should i post the stats again people saying this clearly hate kobe

Pau didnt show up game 2 or 7

did kobe show up game 7?

 

[urbetterthenme]

did kobe show up game 7?

I thought he only showed up to take the MVP award.... cause that Boston D was owning him

 

[sea manup]

Allen Iverson 04-05
30.7 ppg 4.0 rebs 7.9 ast 42.3% 2.4 Stls

05-06
33.0 PPG 3.2 rebs 7.4 ast 44.7% 1.3 stls

During Kobe's best years, A.I., Lebron, and D Wade were all just as good if not better than Kobe.

there was no clearcut best player in the decade, other than shaq in the early 2000s

but kobe was always in the convo, cant say that about any one else (other than duncan)