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Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.Originally Posted by goukiteg
It doesn't matter. Like you said. She's %+@+!%* 11 years old. Point. Blank. Period.Originally Posted by bboy1827
It sounds like she was %!%%$$%# around town. There s no way that she is sneaking out to get raped. Now...A) not to be a creep but we need to see a pic of said girl, just to see if she could justifiably be seen as old enough. B) All dudes over the age of 17 should be dealt with, no way you sleep with an 11 year old and not know it. C) WHAT THE F WERE HER PARENTS DOING, if this was a single isolated incident it was happening overtime, her sneaking out and such. This story shows a lot of follies in America Dudes being slain in the media with no actual facts being said, young girls overly sexualized at such a young age, men not caring about the age of the girl, Parents not being socially responsible. IDK how I feel, 11 is def not old enough to make an informed decision about sex, but should we be prosecuting 13-17 year old dudes if this girl was a smutt?
The most chilling thing about this is my personal reaction the story, I'm actually questioning the validity of this girl saying she was raped. I feel bad for it, but I also understand that this isn't the first time I've heard a girl scream rape, when she was just a *@+% who got caught.
A 100% full investigation should be conducted. Even those news reports paint a jaded picture of this incident.
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.Originally Posted by goukiteg
It doesn't matter. Like you said. She's %+@+!%* 11 years old. Point. Blank. Period.Originally Posted by bboy1827
It sounds like she was %!%%$$%# around town. There s no way that she is sneaking out to get raped. Now...A) not to be a creep but we need to see a pic of said girl, just to see if she could justifiably be seen as old enough. B) All dudes over the age of 17 should be dealt with, no way you sleep with an 11 year old and not know it. C) WHAT THE F WERE HER PARENTS DOING, if this was a single isolated incident it was happening overtime, her sneaking out and such. This story shows a lot of follies in America Dudes being slain in the media with no actual facts being said, young girls overly sexualized at such a young age, men not caring about the age of the girl, Parents not being socially responsible. IDK how I feel, 11 is def not old enough to make an informed decision about sex, but should we be prosecuting 13-17 year old dudes if this girl was a smutt?
The most chilling thing about this is my personal reaction the story, I'm actually questioning the validity of this girl saying she was raped. I feel bad for it, but I also understand that this isn't the first time I've heard a girl scream rape, when she was just a *@+% who got caught.
A 100% full investigation should be conducted. Even those news reports paint a jaded picture of this incident.
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.Originally Posted by goukiteg
It doesn't matter. Like you said. She's %+@+!%* 11 years old. Point. Blank. Period.Originally Posted by bboy1827
It sounds like she was %!%%$$%# around town. There s no way that she is sneaking out to get raped. Now...A) not to be a creep but we need to see a pic of said girl, just to see if she could justifiably be seen as old enough. B) All dudes over the age of 17 should be dealt with, no way you sleep with an 11 year old and not know it. C) WHAT THE F WERE HER PARENTS DOING, if this was a single isolated incident it was happening overtime, her sneaking out and such. This story shows a lot of follies in America Dudes being slain in the media with no actual facts being said, young girls overly sexualized at such a young age, men not caring about the age of the girl, Parents not being socially responsible. IDK how I feel, 11 is def not old enough to make an informed decision about sex, but should we be prosecuting 13-17 year old dudes if this girl was a smutt?
The most chilling thing about this is my personal reaction the story, I'm actually questioning the validity of this girl saying she was raped. I feel bad for it, but I also understand that this isn't the first time I've heard a girl scream rape, when she was just a *@+% who got caught.
A 100% full investigation should be conducted. Even those news reports paint a jaded picture of this incident.
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.Originally Posted by goukiteg
It doesn't matter. Like you said. She's %+@+!%* 11 years old. Point. Blank. Period.Originally Posted by bboy1827
It sounds like she was %!%%$$%# around town. There s no way that she is sneaking out to get raped. Now...A) not to be a creep but we need to see a pic of said girl, just to see if she could justifiably be seen as old enough. B) All dudes over the age of 17 should be dealt with, no way you sleep with an 11 year old and not know it. C) WHAT THE F WERE HER PARENTS DOING, if this was a single isolated incident it was happening overtime, her sneaking out and such. This story shows a lot of follies in America Dudes being slain in the media with no actual facts being said, young girls overly sexualized at such a young age, men not caring about the age of the girl, Parents not being socially responsible. IDK how I feel, 11 is def not old enough to make an informed decision about sex, but should we be prosecuting 13-17 year old dudes if this girl was a smutt?
The most chilling thing about this is my personal reaction the story, I'm actually questioning the validity of this girl saying she was raped. I feel bad for it, but I also understand that this isn't the first time I've heard a girl scream rape, when she was just a *@+% who got caught.
A 100% full investigation should be conducted. Even those news reports paint a jaded picture of this incident.
Originally Posted by Nako XL
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.Originally Posted by goukiteg
It doesn't matter. Like you said. She's %+@+!%* 11 years old. Point. Blank. Period.
the girl was 11. period. she can't consent to sex. all the adults involved knew that.
the minors involved aren't going to jail for statutory rape. they're in trouble because it was essentially a gang rape. doesn't matter if she was a jump off.
beware the company you keep. it sucks that considering how young they are some of these kids were probably influenced and led into these poor decisions, but come on.
Originally Posted by Nako XL
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.Originally Posted by goukiteg
It doesn't matter. Like you said. She's %+@+!%* 11 years old. Point. Blank. Period.
the girl was 11. period. she can't consent to sex. all the adults involved knew that.
the minors involved aren't going to jail for statutory rape. they're in trouble because it was essentially a gang rape. doesn't matter if she was a jump off.
beware the company you keep. it sucks that considering how young they are some of these kids were probably influenced and led into these poor decisions, but come on.
... i don't think you read the article clearly.Originally Posted by bboy1827
Originally Posted by Nako XL
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.
the girl was 11. period. she can't consent to sex. all the adults involved knew that.
the minors involved aren't going to jail for statutory rape. they're in trouble because it was essentially a gang rape. doesn't matter if she was a jump off.
beware the company you keep. it sucks that considering how young they are some of these kids were probably influenced and led into these poor decisions, but come on.
This is the problem, no one is asking questions, no one is willing to acknowledge that this may not be rape. Honestly, my bias opinion is that some of them did rape her BECAUSE she was a young jump. Of 5 boys and 19 men, atleast one had to have went to school with this girls sisters or known them or heard something. Explicit pictures were on her fathers phone...no red flags? IDK enough information personally to make a real "take someones life from them" decision, initially I assumed they did raped her, then information started coming out questioning that. The older dudes should def be dealt with, but the case of the minors should be handled very differently than that of the adults.
... i don't think you read the article clearly.Originally Posted by bboy1827
Originally Posted by Nako XL
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Some of those kids are 13,14,15,16...They shouldn't go to jail because a young girl was being a jump, if that was the case.
the girl was 11. period. she can't consent to sex. all the adults involved knew that.
the minors involved aren't going to jail for statutory rape. they're in trouble because it was essentially a gang rape. doesn't matter if she was a jump off.
beware the company you keep. it sucks that considering how young they are some of these kids were probably influenced and led into these poor decisions, but come on.
This is the problem, no one is asking questions, no one is willing to acknowledge that this may not be rape. Honestly, my bias opinion is that some of them did rape her BECAUSE she was a young jump. Of 5 boys and 19 men, atleast one had to have went to school with this girls sisters or known them or heard something. Explicit pictures were on her fathers phone...no red flags? IDK enough information personally to make a real "take someones life from them" decision, initially I assumed they did raped her, then information started coming out questioning that. The older dudes should def be dealt with, but the case of the minors should be handled very differently than that of the adults.
Originally Posted by bboy1827
And rereading the post, you really think these KIDS lives should be given up because they "essentially" were part of a gang-rape? Even after acknowledging the fact that they may have been as unwittingly a part of this as the young girl may have been?
Originally Posted by bboy1827
And rereading the post, you really think these KIDS lives should be given up because they "essentially" were part of a gang-rape? Even after acknowledging the fact that they may have been as unwittingly a part of this as the young girl may have been?
IDK enough to condemn these kids, to many elements to account for. Not copping out, just saying that your opinion on the issue of the minors seems pretty stern. I mean you don't know what they did, what happened or anything. I read a couple articles on this from the local papers and they don't say anything about what the minors actually did. Like I said, on first glance personal feelings is that some of these dudes did rape this girl, and that this girl was also a jump. I think it's crazy how you are making conclusions based on news articles.Originally Posted by Nako XL
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Originally Posted by Nako XL
And rereading the post, you really think these KIDS lives should be given up because they "essentially" were part of a gang-rape? Even after acknowledging the fact that they may have been as unwittingly a part of this as the young girl may have been?
the minors' lives aren't forfeit. they'll be charged as minors and if proven guilty then they'll be punished as minors for a crime that they committed.
and there's no "essentially"... they were part of a gang rape. their saving grace is that they were underaged and probably as socially coerced into it as the girl was. but there's a reason the law is the way it is and you're fooling yourself if you think that some if not all of the 13-16 year olds didn't suspect at least a little that what was going on was wrong.
the fact that the first article mentions there were probably more people present who abstained and left because they didnt want to get in trouble.
IDK enough to condemn these kids, to many elements to account for. Not copping out, just saying that your opinion on the issue of the minors seems pretty stern. I mean you don't know what they did, what happened or anything. I read a couple articles on this from the local papers and they don't say anything about what the minors actually did. Like I said, on first glance personal feelings is that some of these dudes did rape this girl, and that this girl was also a jump. I think it's crazy how you are making conclusions based on news articles.Originally Posted by Nako XL
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Originally Posted by Nako XL
And rereading the post, you really think these KIDS lives should be given up because they "essentially" were part of a gang-rape? Even after acknowledging the fact that they may have been as unwittingly a part of this as the young girl may have been?
the minors' lives aren't forfeit. they'll be charged as minors and if proven guilty then they'll be punished as minors for a crime that they committed.
and there's no "essentially"... they were part of a gang rape. their saving grace is that they were underaged and probably as socially coerced into it as the girl was. but there's a reason the law is the way it is and you're fooling yourself if you think that some if not all of the 13-16 year olds didn't suspect at least a little that what was going on was wrong.
the fact that the first article mentions there were probably more people present who abstained and left because they didnt want to get in trouble.
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Your preaching certainty, I'm asking for doubt. If we don't think a girl is responsible enough to know that she shouldn't get pee'd on at age 15, then we shouldn't expect that a dude would know that "gangbanging" a girl of whom he doesn't even know and has only seen dressed as an older girl (which it does say in the articles) was wrong. IDK how it should be handled, if she was raped then they should be held accountable, but the gravity of being a sex offender is far to consequential for it to be tossed upon people without proper consideration all evidence, circumstances etc.
Originally Posted by bboy1827
Your preaching certainty, I'm asking for doubt. If we don't think a girl is responsible enough to know that she shouldn't get pee'd on at age 15, then we shouldn't expect that a dude would know that "gangbanging" a girl of whom he doesn't even know and has only seen dressed as an older girl (which it does say in the articles) was wrong. IDK how it should be handled, if she was raped then they should be held accountable, but the gravity of being a sex offender is far to consequential for it to be tossed upon people without proper consideration all evidence, circumstances etc.