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String knows wassup
09 Boxing Thread:: 12/12 Diaz.vs.Malignaggi HBO/Bradley.vs.Peterson Showtime
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Originally Posted by TheProfessorOfPugilism
String knows wassup
Cosign!
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Gunna is there a reason why you spelled Miranda's name as Mirando in title?
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ESPNs Updated P4P Rankings
[table][tr][td]1[/td] [td]
Manny Pacquiao
Junior welterweight champion
Age: 30 | Record: 49-3-2, 37 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: By knocking out Ricky Hatton in the second round in spectacular fashion in the year's biggest fight so far, Pacquiao stamped himself as boxing's biggest star in the post-Oscar De La Hoya era. When he fights, you must watch. In addition to the sensational one-punch victory, Pacquiao claimed a world title in his sixth division, tying De La Hoya's record. More important, Pacquiao became the first fighter in boxing history to win four lineal championships (flyweight, featherweight, junior lightweight and junior welterweight). That's the résumé of an all-time great. Misses: The Pacman fights everyone, he beats everyone and he makes it exciting. No complaints. Move along.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]2[/td] [td]
Juan Manuel Marquez
Lightweight champion
Age: 35 | Record: 50-4-1, 37 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Twice he fought Pacquiao, and the results were a draw and a split-decision loss in fights that many thought Marquez won. After Pacquiao's destruction of Hatton, those performances from Marquez become all the more impressive. But with a third fight against Pacquiao not in the cards right now (although maybe down the road), Marquez is taking on a massive challenge by moving up to welterweight to face unretiring Floyd Mayweather Jr., who yielded his No. 1 pound-for-pound spot when he retired last year. Marquez faces a very difficult fight, but give him credit for taking the risk. (Of course, the almost $4 million guaranteed payday made the decision much easier.) Misses: He'll be a significant underdog against Mayweather, and if the fight plays out like many believe it will, Marquez is in for a tough night.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]3[/td] [td]
Bernard Hopkins
Light heavyweight
Age: 44 | Record: 49-5-1, 32 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Even at 44, Hopkins still is feisty and interested in fighting. The good news for him is that there are interesting opponents to be fought -- from super middleweight titlist Carl Froch to cruiserweight champ Tomasz Adamek to light heavyweight titleholder Chad Dawson. Misses: Although Hopkins still talks as if he wants to fight, he has through-the-roof purse desires, which make any of those bouts unlikely unless he makes a serious adjustment to the market we're living in.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]4[/td] [td]
Shane Mosley
Welterweight champion
Age: 37 | Record: 46-5, 39 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: It might be only an outside shot, but at least Pacquiao and his team talk about Mosley as a possible opponent for the pound-for-pound king in the fall. That would be a really interesting and exciting fight, not to mention one that could generate big pay-per-view numbers. Misses: If Mosley can't land Pacquiao, there's always Mayweather (assuming he beats Marquez). The problem is that Mayweather never has seemed really interested in a Mosley bout, perhaps because he knows it's probably the toughest match out there for him among the potential big fights.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]5[/td] [td]
Paul Williams
Interim junior middleweight titlist
Age: 27 | Record: 37-1, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: How good is Williams? He pitched a near shutout in April against well-respected former undisputed junior middleweight champion Winky Wright, who in his four previous losses was highly competitive. Even though Wright was coming off a long layoff, he still fought well. It's just that Williams was that much better than him. Williams is a nightmare for anyone from 147 to 160 pounds, and maybe even at 168. Misses: Without a big fan following or an outsized personality, it's always going to be tough for him to line up the major fights.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][td]6[/td] [td]
Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
Junior flyweight champion
Age: 34 | Record: 32-0, 6 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: After sitting out since August because of a serious cut he suffered in a technical-decision victory against Hugo Cazares in their rematch, Calderon finally is coming back. He'll face tough Filipino puncher Rodel Mayol on June 13 at Madison Square Garden, his first opportunity to fight at the hallowed arena, which figures to be filled with his Puerto Rican fans on the eve of New York's annual Puerto Rican Day parade. Misses: Although Calderon is 16-0 in world-title fights, it just doesn't look like there's a truly big fight out there for boxing's best technician.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]7[/td] [td]
Miguel Cotto
Welterweight titlist
Age: 28 | Record: 33-1, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Unlike some fighters (specifically, Mayweather), Cotto has never dodged a challenge. Instead, he has sought out all the toughest fights -- especially at welterweight -- such as battles with Mosley, Antonio Margarito, Zab Judah and Carlos Quintana. And nothing has changed, which is why Cotto is poised to take on another rough opponent June 13: Joshua Clottey, a dangerous foe nobody else wants to fight. Misses: You have to at least wonder how Cotto is going to perform in his first tough assignment since Margarito knocked him out last summer and in his first fight without longtime trainer Evangelista Cotto, the uncle with whom he had a terrible falling out.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]8[/td] [td]
Nonito Donaire
Flyweight titlist
Age: 26 | Record: 21-1, 14 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Pacquiao is the best fighter from the Philippines, but Donaire is the next-best -- and a force to be reckoned with in the smaller weight divisions. He is an excellent boxer with good power and is coming off April's dominant fourth-round knockout of Raul Martinez, a strong contender who was undefeated before faltering under Donaire's pressure. Donaire's string of five consecutive knockouts includes a memorable one-punch shot against Vic Darchinyan. Misses: The only thing that can hold Donaire back is trouble making the flyweight limit of 112 pounds, which is why he probably will move up to the 115-pound junior bantamweight division at some point.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]9[/td] [td]
Kelly Pavlik
Middleweight champion
Age: 27 | Record: 35-1, 31 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: In an about-face, Pavlik, promoter Top Rank and co-managers Cameron Dunkin and Mike Pavlik recently had begun to talk seriously about a huge fall fight with German middleweight titlist Arthur Abraham, the one meaningful fight the world wants to see at 160 pounds. The idea was for Pavlik to beat Sergio Mora on June 27 and for Abraham to take care of his mandatory challenger, Giovanni Lorenzo, on the same date before they hooked up in November. Misses: Pavlik pulled out of the fight with Mora because, according to Top Rank, he has a staph infection on his hand. Top Rank says it will try to reschedule the Mora fight, which obviously is going to push back the Abraham fight, an unfortunate development.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]10[/td] [td]
Israel Vazquez
Junior featherweight champion
Age: 31 | Record: 43-4, 32 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Although Vazquez has been out of commission because of eye injuries suffered during his blazing trilogy with Rafael Marquez, there is talk he could finally be ready to return to action this summer. It will be great to see him back in action after a long layoff. Misses: As much as we all love Vazquez and admire his heart and ability, he hasn't fought for 14 months, meaning he is precariously close to being dropped from these rankings.[/td] [/tr][/table]
The next 10:
11. Chad Dawson
12. Vic Darchinyan
13. Rafael Marquez
14. Arthur Abraham
15. Nate Campbell
16. Chris John
17. Fernando Montiel
18. Celestino Caballero
19. Tomasz Adamek
20. Hozumi Hasegawa
[table][tr][td]1[/td] [td]
Manny Pacquiao
Junior welterweight champion
Age: 30 | Record: 49-3-2, 37 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: By knocking out Ricky Hatton in the second round in spectacular fashion in the year's biggest fight so far, Pacquiao stamped himself as boxing's biggest star in the post-Oscar De La Hoya era. When he fights, you must watch. In addition to the sensational one-punch victory, Pacquiao claimed a world title in his sixth division, tying De La Hoya's record. More important, Pacquiao became the first fighter in boxing history to win four lineal championships (flyweight, featherweight, junior lightweight and junior welterweight). That's the résumé of an all-time great. Misses: The Pacman fights everyone, he beats everyone and he makes it exciting. No complaints. Move along.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]2[/td] [td]
Juan Manuel Marquez
Lightweight champion
Age: 35 | Record: 50-4-1, 37 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Twice he fought Pacquiao, and the results were a draw and a split-decision loss in fights that many thought Marquez won. After Pacquiao's destruction of Hatton, those performances from Marquez become all the more impressive. But with a third fight against Pacquiao not in the cards right now (although maybe down the road), Marquez is taking on a massive challenge by moving up to welterweight to face unretiring Floyd Mayweather Jr., who yielded his No. 1 pound-for-pound spot when he retired last year. Marquez faces a very difficult fight, but give him credit for taking the risk. (Of course, the almost $4 million guaranteed payday made the decision much easier.) Misses: He'll be a significant underdog against Mayweather, and if the fight plays out like many believe it will, Marquez is in for a tough night.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]3[/td] [td]
Bernard Hopkins
Light heavyweight
Age: 44 | Record: 49-5-1, 32 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Even at 44, Hopkins still is feisty and interested in fighting. The good news for him is that there are interesting opponents to be fought -- from super middleweight titlist Carl Froch to cruiserweight champ Tomasz Adamek to light heavyweight titleholder Chad Dawson. Misses: Although Hopkins still talks as if he wants to fight, he has through-the-roof purse desires, which make any of those bouts unlikely unless he makes a serious adjustment to the market we're living in.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]4[/td] [td]
Shane Mosley
Welterweight champion
Age: 37 | Record: 46-5, 39 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: It might be only an outside shot, but at least Pacquiao and his team talk about Mosley as a possible opponent for the pound-for-pound king in the fall. That would be a really interesting and exciting fight, not to mention one that could generate big pay-per-view numbers. Misses: If Mosley can't land Pacquiao, there's always Mayweather (assuming he beats Marquez). The problem is that Mayweather never has seemed really interested in a Mosley bout, perhaps because he knows it's probably the toughest match out there for him among the potential big fights.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]5[/td] [td]
Paul Williams
Interim junior middleweight titlist
Age: 27 | Record: 37-1, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: How good is Williams? He pitched a near shutout in April against well-respected former undisputed junior middleweight champion Winky Wright, who in his four previous losses was highly competitive. Even though Wright was coming off a long layoff, he still fought well. It's just that Williams was that much better than him. Williams is a nightmare for anyone from 147 to 160 pounds, and maybe even at 168. Misses: Without a big fan following or an outsized personality, it's always going to be tough for him to line up the major fights.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][td]6[/td] [td]
Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
Junior flyweight champion
Age: 34 | Record: 32-0, 6 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: After sitting out since August because of a serious cut he suffered in a technical-decision victory against Hugo Cazares in their rematch, Calderon finally is coming back. He'll face tough Filipino puncher Rodel Mayol on June 13 at Madison Square Garden, his first opportunity to fight at the hallowed arena, which figures to be filled with his Puerto Rican fans on the eve of New York's annual Puerto Rican Day parade. Misses: Although Calderon is 16-0 in world-title fights, it just doesn't look like there's a truly big fight out there for boxing's best technician.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]7[/td] [td]
Miguel Cotto
Welterweight titlist
Age: 28 | Record: 33-1, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Unlike some fighters (specifically, Mayweather), Cotto has never dodged a challenge. Instead, he has sought out all the toughest fights -- especially at welterweight -- such as battles with Mosley, Antonio Margarito, Zab Judah and Carlos Quintana. And nothing has changed, which is why Cotto is poised to take on another rough opponent June 13: Joshua Clottey, a dangerous foe nobody else wants to fight. Misses: You have to at least wonder how Cotto is going to perform in his first tough assignment since Margarito knocked him out last summer and in his first fight without longtime trainer Evangelista Cotto, the uncle with whom he had a terrible falling out.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]8[/td] [td]
Nonito Donaire
Flyweight titlist
Age: 26 | Record: 21-1, 14 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Pacquiao is the best fighter from the Philippines, but Donaire is the next-best -- and a force to be reckoned with in the smaller weight divisions. He is an excellent boxer with good power and is coming off April's dominant fourth-round knockout of Raul Martinez, a strong contender who was undefeated before faltering under Donaire's pressure. Donaire's string of five consecutive knockouts includes a memorable one-punch shot against Vic Darchinyan. Misses: The only thing that can hold Donaire back is trouble making the flyweight limit of 112 pounds, which is why he probably will move up to the 115-pound junior bantamweight division at some point.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]9[/td] [td]
Kelly Pavlik
Middleweight champion
Age: 27 | Record: 35-1, 31 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: In an about-face, Pavlik, promoter Top Rank and co-managers Cameron Dunkin and Mike Pavlik recently had begun to talk seriously about a huge fall fight with German middleweight titlist Arthur Abraham, the one meaningful fight the world wants to see at 160 pounds. The idea was for Pavlik to beat Sergio Mora on June 27 and for Abraham to take care of his mandatory challenger, Giovanni Lorenzo, on the same date before they hooked up in November. Misses: Pavlik pulled out of the fight with Mora because, according to Top Rank, he has a staph infection on his hand. Top Rank says it will try to reschedule the Mora fight, which obviously is going to push back the Abraham fight, an unfortunate development.[/td] [/tr][/table]
[table][tr][td]10[/td] [td]
Israel Vazquez
Junior featherweight champion
Age: 31 | Record: 43-4, 32 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hits: Although Vazquez has been out of commission because of eye injuries suffered during his blazing trilogy with Rafael Marquez, there is talk he could finally be ready to return to action this summer. It will be great to see him back in action after a long layoff. Misses: As much as we all love Vazquez and admire his heart and ability, he hasn't fought for 14 months, meaning he is precariously close to being dropped from these rankings.[/td] [/tr][/table]
The next 10:
11. Chad Dawson
12. Vic Darchinyan
13. Rafael Marquez
14. Arthur Abraham
15. Nate Campbell
16. Chris John
17. Fernando Montiel
18. Celestino Caballero
19. Tomasz Adamek
20. Hozumi Hasegawa
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bum Juda to fight Randall Bailey on the PBF undercard
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Pun at 5
hey finally decided to drop marquez out and Izzy down to 10.
Nate at 12, My son gettin some recognition
hey finally decided to drop marquez out and Izzy down to 10.
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stupid *@* !##** cant read
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Gunna with all sorts of typos today.
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the 5 and 2 are right next to eachother on the number pad. I hit the 2 by mistake. sorry I dont have a speak & Spell my 1st computer like BigMike
and just how the $$$# is the dude with the worst spelling/grammar on NikeTalk even work up the nerve to say someone else cant read.
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and just how the $$$# is the dude with the worst spelling/grammar on NikeTalk even work up the nerve to say someone else cant read.
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Mike got this for his B-Day
How do you spell 'Dog' Mike?
"Uhhhh Elmo, uhhhhhh Ernie uhhhhhhh 6 ?!
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How do you spell 'Dog' Mike?
"Uhhhh Elmo, uhhhhhh Ernie uhhhhhhh 6 ?!
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Paul should be higher than 5
Jay and Mike
Jay and Mike
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This should help quiet those who say Pacman is a way bigger draw than Floyd and deserves the lions share if they fought. FTR, Mayweather-Hatton did 915,000buys.
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What are the numbers to Tyson/Holyfield? Can a PacMan/PBF bout break it?
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Tyson Holyfield did 1.99 Million Buys. Pac-Mayweather can be huge, but i doubt it'll get that huge. DLH-Mayweather is the only fight ever to be bigger at2.16 million buys. If Rafael's guess of 1.5 million is accurate, and i think it very well can be, then Pac/PBF would be the 2nd biggest non-heavyweightfight in History behind DLH-PBF and the biggest fight ever not involving DLH or Tyson.
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^^^ Maybe Shane?
As impressive as Paul as been I can't put him over Shane. Shane beat someone with a rock solid chin and (cheater or not) was the #1 welterweight and a top5 P4P fighter. At his age and how bad he made Margarito look (who's never been dominated like that) I can't put Paul over him.
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Paul beat that same guy....
Bhop and Shane IMO are too high, before the Pavlik win, Bhop was an eye sore to watch Holding and clutching.
he's 3-3 in his last 6 fights ....
Bhop and Shane IMO are too high, before the Pavlik win, Bhop was an eye sore to watch Holding and clutching.
he's 3-3 in his last 6 fights ....
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Anyone going?
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^^^yessir section 105
**JuanMa is fighting undefeated Canadian Olivier Lontchi on June 27 to replace the Pavlik/Mora bout.**
**JuanMa is fighting undefeated Canadian Olivier Lontchi on June 27 to replace the Pavlik/Mora bout.**
Yea but Paul didn't dominate the way Mosley did. Mosley was about to kill Margarito and picked him apart in the ring right after the biggestwin of Antonio's career. I have no qualms about the ordering whichever way it would go. B-Hop is 3-3 in his last 6 but two of those are controversiallosses that could've gone either way. Not to take anything away from what Paul has been doing but I just don't put him ahead of Hopkins or Shane as ofright now.
