⭐ OFFICIAL 2020-2021 NBA Off-Season Thread: Olympics begin 7/23; NBA Draft 7/29⭐

[wavycrocket]

Funny going back in that thread...and predicting exactly how and why Russ will flame out due to a real simple analysis. Had nothing to do with nitpicking his triple doubles (that **** is impressive, either way you slice it). But “Brodie” was obviously selfish and cheated the game. Came back to bite him.

But Russ fans are going to be who they are. Delusional

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Interview culture is also nonsense.

I had 33 interviews to get my job... THIRTY THREE. Just getting grilled to death in almost all of them. My worst one was with the same guy who did the "Work comes first thing", who I am now super tight with now that we don't work with each other anymore..

Guy walks into the room. Doesn't say anything at the start, and just starts rattling off questions. It was maybe 30 questions. didn't ask me about my resume or anything.

Then we had the interview and at the end he says "I hope you were taking notes because those questions you got wrong or didn't have any answers to, I want answers by the end of the day"

I rush home, scramble to find the answers, send it off by 5, guy comes back with... THIS:

I end up getting the job and assigned to his team. One day in like November we're sitting there working and he turns to me and says "You know... You're lucky that I vouched for you to get this job, because your resume was pure Sh___"

I really try and keep it chill when I interview, I just talk to people. If I'm gonna have to spend 13 hours a day with you I have to make sure that I can stand you. None of this "How would you escape a blender if you were trapped in said blender" nonsense

This is ridiculous. Idk about others, but I’ve never interviewed this way. I usually have always asked questions like “what are you hobbies?” Or “tell me you most fondest recent memory”

absurd you had to go through that. But I will say, a lot of what you experience is usually from the group you’re in. A lot of groups aren’t like this. At least not the ones I’ve worked in. Sorry man. That really must’ve sucked.

 

[frshstunna]

It’s been wayyyy too much talk about Westbrook latlely...Let yo go out in irrelevance out DC like how it’s was supposed to be when the trade happen

 

[MVP]

Again for the 4th time since ppl just be lying for no reason.

.750 winning percentage when Russ had a triple double (total)
.797 winning percentage in OKC when he accounted for 84% of those numbers
His on/off stats from the 3 years in a row averaging one
16-17': +13.4
17-18: +10.7
18-19: +5.4

During that span, he had one against every team in the NBA (except OKC), all the good ones and the bad ones and when he got to HOU the next season he had one against OKC.

You can point to THIS season with the Wizards and try and draw lines but the facts just don't add up for what's been the case the vast majority of his career since he been 'stat hunting'.

 

[antidope]

This is ridiculous. Idk about others, but I’ve never interviewed this way. I usually have always asked questions like “what are you hobbies?” Or “tell me you most fondest recent memory”

absurd you had to go through that. But I will say, a lot of what you experience is usually from the group you’re in. A lot of groups aren’t like this. At least not the ones I’ve worked in. Sorry man. That really must’ve sucked.

All good man I wanted the job and got an eyebrow raising story out of it. No regrets.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Russ is a Hell of an individual player. You have to be out of your mind not to acknowledge that. But his lasting legacy may be the detriment he’s caused to winning. That sentiment will be extrapolated if KD wins more without him.

 

[friscostylez]

Russ-led teams led to 1st round exits, superstar teammates asking to leave, and even had a HOF teammate looking so bad, he was out of the league. All his talented teammates looked better playing without him.

 

[lawdog1]

Am I the only one who thinks the media is making too big of a deal out of KDs so I contusion injury?

He got knee'd in the thigh and they kept them out of the game as a precaution, wire analysts acting like he re-aggravated his Achilles or something? Seems like a big overreaction based off of a very minor injury

I agree with you, but the fact is that he’s missed the majority of the regular season with one thing or another, so I can see why the media might start playing up “concerns” about his health for the play-offs.

 

[MVP]

Russ-led teams led to 1st round exits, superstar teammates asking to leave, and even had a HOF teammate looking so bad, he was out of the league. All his talented teammates looked better playing without him.

KD won MVP w/Russ
PG had his best season ever with Russ (finishing top 3 in MVP voting)

Russ is a Hell of an individual player. You have to be out of your mind not to acknowledge that. But his lasting legacy may be the detriment he’s caused to winning. That sentiment will be extrapolated if KD wins more without him.

Let's see:
OKC w/Russ as leader...1st rd exit
OKC next season w/o Russ...1st rd exit

HOU w/o Russ season before...2nd rd exit
HOU w Russ...2nd rd exit

WAS w/o Russ...trash
WAS w/Russ...trash

 

[storm2006]

Again for the 4th time since ppl just be lying for no reason.

.750 winning percentage when Russ had a triple double (total)
.797 winning percentage in OKC when he accounted for 84% of those numbers
His on/off stats from the 3 years in a row averaging one
16-17': +13.4
17-18: +10.7
18-19: +5.4

During that span, he had one against every team in the NBA (except OKC), all the good ones and the bad ones and when he got to HOU the next season he had one against OKC.

You can point to THIS season with the Wizards and try and draw lines but the facts just don't add up for what's been the case the vast majority of his career since he been 'stat hunting'.

Averages a triple double for three seasons straight and 75% winning percentage when he has one, huh?

16-17: 6th Seed, First Round Exit in 5
17-18: 4th Seed, First Round Exit in 6
18-19: 6th Seed, First Round Exit in 5

 

[dman14]

klay's record in jeopardy?

 

[MVP]

Averages a triple double for three seasons straight and 75% winning percentage when he has one, huh?

16-17: 6th Seed, First Round Exit in 5
17-18: 4th Seed, First Round Exit in 6
18-19: 6th Seed, First Round Exit in 5

Yes we've established at nauseum his flame outs in the postseason. What does that have with you misrepresenting stuff which I've proven time and time again?

 

[storm2006]

OKC w/Russ as leader...1st rd exit
OKC next season w/o Russ...1st rd exit

HOU w/o Russ season before...2nd rd exit
HOU w Russ...2nd rd exit

WAS w/o Russ...trash
WAS w/Russ...trash

1. Your OKC comparison is intellectually dishonest because running with SGA isn’t the same as running with PG13, no matter how far ahead SGA was in Year 2. Everyone had them pegged as trash and CP3 got them to the 5-seed (higher than Russ had them the year before).

2. Your Houston and Washington examples clearly illustrate he doesn’t positively impact winning

Yes we've established at nauseum his flame outs in the postseason. What does that have with you misrepresenting stuff which I've proven time and time again?

So are we glorifying 4th and 6th place finishes now?

 

[Hank Scorpio]

KD won MVP w/Russ
PG had his best season ever with Russ (finishing top 3 in MVP voting)




Let's see:
OKC w/Russ as leader...1st rd exit
OKC next season w/o Russ...1st rd exit

HOU w/o Russ season before...2nd rd exit
HOU w Russ...2nd rd exit

WAS w/o Russ...trash
WAS w/Russ...trash

this just tells me he has no real impact if the outcomes are all the same LOL

 

[storm2006]

klay's record in jeopardy?

I was sleeping on him until I saw this a few days ago. Kid is legit

 

[trynafeelmink]

Whenever anyone adds nuance to Russell’s raw numbers it’s considered hate. Nah my dude, it’s called thorough analysis and most of the time it illustrates that there is more than meets the eye besides triple doubles and wins and losses.

What is truly amazing about Russ Stans is that what they classify as “hate” is simply folks using data that shows he’s not all that they’re making him out to be.

If he was dominating against good teams, you’d have no problem with touring the records of the teams he had triple doubles against. If his numbers led to winning, you’d have no problem discussing his team’s W-L record. If his team’s offensive rating was better with him on the court than when he’s off it, you’d gladly bring it up.

Folks are spitting cold, hard facts and because it disproves your argument doesn’t mean it’s hate or OD.

Fam you don't like Russ IDC........ nobody was arguing about Russ. he's one of many Superstars who has been killed in the past for putting up historic performances & that leading to mediocre results.... Which is exactly what Steph is doing & there's nothing wrong with celebrating it.

I just noticed that he's getting a lot more love than others if you disagree fine, but i see it & i stated it. Like someone else said we're not going years back into every Superstars numbers & dissecting opponents winning percentages & injuries when they accomplished something rare .

We could do the "nuance" with a lot of players & get into specifics..... but that only seems to happen when people are trying to paint certain narratives of players.

Steph isn't the only one this happens too there's a bunch of guys on lower tiers who put up good numbers on perennial losers & are praised, while others do the same & get blamed for it.

 

[antidope]

The off topic stuff from earlier> Another RW debate

 

[MVP]

1. Your OKC comparison is intellectually dishonest because running with SGA isn’t the same as running with PG13, no matter how far ahead SGA was in Year 2. Everyone had them pegged as trash and CP3 got them to the 5-seed (higher than Russ had them the year before).

2. Your Houston and Washington examples clearly illustrate he doesn’t positively impact winning

For the 3rd time, last year the season didn't complete to an 82 game schedule. OKC was 49-32 the previous season. There's no way to know what record they would have finished with if they'd been allowed to play their 10 remaining games as they were 44-28 at the time with Chris Paul. They could have went 6-4 or they could have went 4-6. And the team would have finished slightly better or slightly worse.

What my examples also show is that he's not a detriment like y'all goofy selves keep saying if teams are having the same results with and without him.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Fam you don't like Russ IDC........ nobody was arguing about Russ. he's one of many Superstars who has been killed in the past for putting up historic performances & that leading to mediocre results.... Which is exactly what Steph is doing & there's nothing wrong with celebrating it.

I just noticed that he's getting a lot more love than others if you disagree fine, but i see it & i stated it. Like someone else said we're not going years back into every Superstars numbers & dissecting opponents winning percentages & injuries when they accomplished something rare .

We could do the "nuance" with a lot of players & get into specifics..... but that only seems to happen when people are trying to paint certain narratives of players.

Steph isn't the only one this happens too there's a bunch of guys on lower tiers who put up good numbers on perennial losers & our praised, while others do the same & get blamed for it.

Steph is doing it in the west, with his team in the playoff huntgetting triple teamed every play, because he has trash teammates rn.

I don’t see how Russ and Steph are similar.

 

[friscostylez]

Seth and Steph guarding each other

 

[shotsrangout]

Funny going back in that thread...and predicting exactly how and why Russ will flame out due to a real simple analysis. Had nothing to do with nitpicking his triple doubles (that **** is impressive, either way you slice it). But “Brodie” was obviously selfish and cheated the game. Came back to bite him.

But Russ fans are going to be who they are. Delusional

YOU of all people calling someone else DELUSIONAL

 

[MVP]

So are we glorifying 4th and 6th place finishes now?

Isn't Joker the runaway favorite for MVP right now with his squad teetering in that area?

Steph is doing it in the west, with his team in the playoff huntgetting triple teamed every play, because he has trash teammates rn.

I don’t see how Russ and Steph are similar.

Unless I missed something OKC been in the West when Russ was doing most of his damage. Competition was better a few years ago as well.

If we can celebrate production from an elite player that has his team in 9th place right now or last year praise a guy who led the league in scoring on a team that won 20 outta 57 games when he played, why the hell can't Russ be acknowledged and celebrated for the work he's putting in?

That's why I say dudes pick and choose based on who they like and don't like as a player.

 

[wavycrocket]

amitt5504 thybull

 

[pmatic]

Steph pre-eruption.

 

[storm2006]

Fam you don't like Russ IDC

Only on NikeTalk can you be accused of not like a man after saying you have no issues with a man, call him one of the best of all-time at his job, praise his community efforts, say he has a beautiful family and crown him as a champion of life. I don’t know what you want me to say, man.

For the 3rd time, last year the season didn't complete to an 82 game schedule. OKC was 49-32 the previous season. There's no way to know what record they would have finished with if they'd been allowed to play their 10 remaining games as they were 44-28 at the time with Chris Paul. They could have went 6-4 or they could have went 4-6. And the team would have finished slightly better or slightly worse.

By this logic then maybe the Wizards weren’t actually trash last year. If Trump would have reacted the way a competent leader would to COVID then maybe the season wouldn’t have gotten canceled when it did. The Wizards were 24-41 at the time of the hiatus and were coming off a win. There’s no way to know that they wouldn’t have gone on a 17-game win streak and finished .500 if COVID was addressed immediately and they had been allowed to play all 82 games as originally scheduled.

If Russ doesn’t get the Wizards to .500 then we have to look at this season as a complete failure.