Wow Kobe was so explosive back then

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Al3xis

I wouldn't include Shaq in that list. He won a title in his 13th year in the league as a top player, too.

Yeah, I wasn't sure on Shaq, but I meant in terms of his peers, begging for work after such incredible careers.  Getting passed around team to team like a jumpoff.  Shaq been on 4 teams in 6 years, and might make it 5 in 7 here pretty soon.  That ain't right. 

TMac can't get a job, AI can't, Vince is getting traded all the time since he's a bum, Stack retires and then comes back, stuff like that. 

  

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Al3xis

I wouldn't include Shaq in that list. He won a title in his 13th year in the league as a top player, too.

Yeah, I wasn't sure on Shaq, but I meant in terms of his peers, begging for work after such incredible careers.  Getting passed around team to team like a jumpoff.  Shaq been on 4 teams in 6 years, and might make it 5 in 7 here pretty soon.  That ain't right. 

TMac can't get a job, AI can't, Vince is getting traded all the time since he's a bum, Stack retires and then comes back, stuff like that. 

  

 

[do be doo]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Please stop mentioning the Spurs in threads that have nothing to do with them.

My fault.
But I wouldn't be surprise if KOBE starts to decline this season. Three stright years to the finals and he played Olympic ball too.I mean he is only human. 
right?

  

 

[do be doo]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Please stop mentioning the Spurs in threads that have nothing to do with them.

My fault.
But I wouldn't be surprise if KOBE starts to decline this season. Three stright years to the finals and he played Olympic ball too.I mean he is only human. 
right?

  

 

[gijace]

Originally Posted by Kookcle

Kobe on Sprewell > _______

 

"Kobe Bryant with no regard to human life!"

 

[gijace]

Originally Posted by Kookcle

Kobe on Sprewell > _______

 

"Kobe Bryant with no regard to human life!"

 

[xsalvioutlawx]

Lmaooo @ Kobe not in his prime because he can't dunk like that anymore....smh

The first video TC posted I remember vividly, last game of the season that year we didn't make the playoffs. That's why Kobe was pissed

Someone post Kobe on Birdman

For those who remember...The two dunks Kobe did on Doug Christie and the dunk on Yao he was waaaaaaaaaay up there.

He only dunked literally about 5 times through the whole playoffs and they were just normal dunks. He did a nasty one against OKC though. He had a bad knee that he just got surgery on. He'll have a few more posters before his time is up, but the days when Kobe would just %!$+ on everyone are over. He had a few good ones in 2009 so makes me wonder how he will be next year with a good knee.

BTW, that dunk on KG/Wolves that won dunk of decade for the playoffs is so underrated.

 

[xsalvioutlawx]

Lmaooo @ Kobe not in his prime because he can't dunk like that anymore....smh

The first video TC posted I remember vividly, last game of the season that year we didn't make the playoffs. That's why Kobe was pissed

Someone post Kobe on Birdman

For those who remember...The two dunks Kobe did on Doug Christie and the dunk on Yao he was waaaaaaaaaay up there.

He only dunked literally about 5 times through the whole playoffs and they were just normal dunks. He did a nasty one against OKC though. He had a bad knee that he just got surgery on. He'll have a few more posters before his time is up, but the days when Kobe would just %!$+ on everyone are over. He had a few good ones in 2009 so makes me wonder how he will be next year with a good knee.

BTW, that dunk on KG/Wolves that won dunk of decade for the playoffs is so underrated.

 

[frenchblue23]

Originally Posted by Do Be Doo

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Please stop mentioning the Spurs in threads that have nothing to do with them.

My fault.
But I wouldn't be surprise if KOBE starts to decline this season. Three stright years to the finals and he played Olympic ball too.I mean he is only human. 
right?

  

He's not like the Spurs

 

[frenchblue23]

Originally Posted by Do Be Doo

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Please stop mentioning the Spurs in threads that have nothing to do with them.

My fault.
But I wouldn't be surprise if KOBE starts to decline this season. Three stright years to the finals and he played Olympic ball too.I mean he is only human. 
right?

  

He's not like the Spurs

 

[ldj]

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by LDJ


I mean nah he isnt the Kobe of young, but best believe if it warrants for him to elevate, or posterize a man i think he can rise to the occasion. Lets not act like he has reduced to a early-mid 30's version of air jordan aka chair jordan. If vince can still get up there (which he showed in a few games last season) i dont see how Kobe cant. Plus he was banged up and hurt throughout the season.

mikes athleticism at any age > kobes athleticism at any age


you obviously didnt watch the last three championships


mike was more explosive at ages 33,34,35 than kobe is now at age 31




dont forget he banged on a prime dikembe mutombo at age 34

and dunked from the free throw line at age 34













  

I agree im just saying diff with kobe is and it shows that he learned from jordan that ok it isnt a need for me to perform death defying jams and moves etc anymore. Im pretty sure he can still get up there and do what it do if needed to be. Im not trying to diss mj by no means, but if you look at his level of competition, and how long he has reigned he is giving mj a run for his money.

I mean look at the competition kobe has faced from his early beginnings until now vs mj. I mean allan houston, glen rice etc were all good competitors, but lets not get carried away and say they = lebron or a dwade lol.

I think kone has atleast 2 or 3 good/great yrs left, then maybe 3 yrs of ok/moderate yrs. I think after about 36-37 he will be about done and be a servicable backup giving 15-20 minutes or so at best.

  

 

[ldj]

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by LDJ


I mean nah he isnt the Kobe of young, but best believe if it warrants for him to elevate, or posterize a man i think he can rise to the occasion. Lets not act like he has reduced to a early-mid 30's version of air jordan aka chair jordan. If vince can still get up there (which he showed in a few games last season) i dont see how Kobe cant. Plus he was banged up and hurt throughout the season.

mikes athleticism at any age > kobes athleticism at any age


you obviously didnt watch the last three championships


mike was more explosive at ages 33,34,35 than kobe is now at age 31




dont forget he banged on a prime dikembe mutombo at age 34

and dunked from the free throw line at age 34













  

I agree im just saying diff with kobe is and it shows that he learned from jordan that ok it isnt a need for me to perform death defying jams and moves etc anymore. Im pretty sure he can still get up there and do what it do if needed to be. Im not trying to diss mj by no means, but if you look at his level of competition, and how long he has reigned he is giving mj a run for his money.

I mean look at the competition kobe has faced from his early beginnings until now vs mj. I mean allan houston, glen rice etc were all good competitors, but lets not get carried away and say they = lebron or a dwade lol.

I think kone has atleast 2 or 3 good/great yrs left, then maybe 3 yrs of ok/moderate yrs. I think after about 36-37 he will be about done and be a servicable backup giving 15-20 minutes or so at best.

  

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by CP1708

What he have, like 12-13 30 point playoff games, 5-6 boards and assists a game as well for the postseason, and his skills have degraded? 

  Shows you where he was then. 


Someday when the dust settles and people aren't mad anymore, they are going to sit back and MARVEL at what kid has done.  Look at all the guys that been there thru the years, (Shaq, AI, TMac, Vince, Stack, G Hill) they all fall off, and Kobe still sittin there with the elites now (Durant, Melo, Bron, Wade, D12).  Un....real. 

If he can hold out for 2 more years and then 2 of those "less than" type years, his career numbers/highlights/achievements are going to be flat out disgusting. 

all these dudes are 3-4 years older than kobe though

so thats why they fell off faster

and most of them were all better than kobe during the late nineties so it kind of balances out because he outlasted them at the backend of their careers

and i dont think its fair to say shaqs in kobes generation even though he kind of is,but hes like 7-8 years older than kobe

he definitely the best player of his generation though (well its between him and duncan really)


the only guys from kobes generation who i think should still be in their prime right now along with kobe, are garnett,t-mac,and jermaine oneal because of their age.

but injuries got all of them





  

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by CP1708

What he have, like 12-13 30 point playoff games, 5-6 boards and assists a game as well for the postseason, and his skills have degraded? 

  Shows you where he was then. 


Someday when the dust settles and people aren't mad anymore, they are going to sit back and MARVEL at what kid has done.  Look at all the guys that been there thru the years, (Shaq, AI, TMac, Vince, Stack, G Hill) they all fall off, and Kobe still sittin there with the elites now (Durant, Melo, Bron, Wade, D12).  Un....real. 

If he can hold out for 2 more years and then 2 of those "less than" type years, his career numbers/highlights/achievements are going to be flat out disgusting. 

all these dudes are 3-4 years older than kobe though

so thats why they fell off faster

and most of them were all better than kobe during the late nineties so it kind of balances out because he outlasted them at the backend of their careers

and i dont think its fair to say shaqs in kobes generation even though he kind of is,but hes like 7-8 years older than kobe

he definitely the best player of his generation though (well its between him and duncan really)


the only guys from kobes generation who i think should still be in their prime right now along with kobe, are garnett,t-mac,and jermaine oneal because of their age.

but injuries got all of them





  

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Skills have degraded?

Come on now, this was disgusting even in a loss.

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Skills have degraded?

Come on now, this was disgusting even in a loss.

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by LDJ

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by LDJ


I mean nah he isnt the Kobe of young, but best believe if it warrants for him to elevate, or posterize a man i think he can rise to the occasion. Lets not act like he has reduced to a early-mid 30's version of air jordan aka chair jordan. If vince can still get up there (which he showed in a few games last season) i dont see how Kobe cant. Plus he was banged up and hurt throughout the season.

mikes athleticism at any age > kobes athleticism at any age


you obviously didnt watch the last three championships


mike was more explosive at ages 33,34,35 than kobe is now at age 31




dont forget he banged on a prime dikembe mutombo at age 34

and dunked from the free throw line at age 34













  

I agree im just saying diff with kobe is and it shows that he learned from jordan that ok it isnt a need for me to perform death defying jams and moves etc anymore. Im pretty sure he can still get up there and do what it do if needed to be. Im not trying to diss mj by no means, but if you look at his level of competition, and how long he has reigned he is giving mj a run for his money.

I mean look at the competition kobe has faced from his early beginnings until now vs mj. I mean allan houston, glen rice etc were all good competitors, but lets not get carried away and say they = lebron or a dwade lol.

I think kone has atleast 2 or 3 good/great yrs left, then maybe 3 yrs of ok/moderate yrs. I think after about 36-37 he will be about done and be a servicable backup giving 15-20 minutes or so at best.

  

well i dont wanna turn this into a kobe vs mj argument cuz mike has'em beat in every department.


but i mean really mj was the best player in the league ever year from like 89 til 98

and dont forget the insane amount of stuff he did in 88

honestly from his 2nd full season in the league he was in the discussion for best player in the league,he just wasnt racking up titles yet



and the competition he played against is a whole other arguement again.

he played against more all time greats in their prime than kobe,not to mention all the great defenses and teams too




lol lets keep this post on kobes explosiveness though

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by LDJ

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by LDJ


I mean nah he isnt the Kobe of young, but best believe if it warrants for him to elevate, or posterize a man i think he can rise to the occasion. Lets not act like he has reduced to a early-mid 30's version of air jordan aka chair jordan. If vince can still get up there (which he showed in a few games last season) i dont see how Kobe cant. Plus he was banged up and hurt throughout the season.

mikes athleticism at any age > kobes athleticism at any age


you obviously didnt watch the last three championships


mike was more explosive at ages 33,34,35 than kobe is now at age 31




dont forget he banged on a prime dikembe mutombo at age 34

and dunked from the free throw line at age 34













  

I agree im just saying diff with kobe is and it shows that he learned from jordan that ok it isnt a need for me to perform death defying jams and moves etc anymore. Im pretty sure he can still get up there and do what it do if needed to be. Im not trying to diss mj by no means, but if you look at his level of competition, and how long he has reigned he is giving mj a run for his money.

I mean look at the competition kobe has faced from his early beginnings until now vs mj. I mean allan houston, glen rice etc were all good competitors, but lets not get carried away and say they = lebron or a dwade lol.

I think kone has atleast 2 or 3 good/great yrs left, then maybe 3 yrs of ok/moderate yrs. I think after about 36-37 he will be about done and be a servicable backup giving 15-20 minutes or so at best.

  

well i dont wanna turn this into a kobe vs mj argument cuz mike has'em beat in every department.


but i mean really mj was the best player in the league ever year from like 89 til 98

and dont forget the insane amount of stuff he did in 88

honestly from his 2nd full season in the league he was in the discussion for best player in the league,he just wasnt racking up titles yet



and the competition he played against is a whole other arguement again.

he played against more all time greats in their prime than kobe,not to mention all the great defenses and teams too




lol lets keep this post on kobes explosiveness though

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by CP1708

What he have, like 12-13 30 point playoff games, 5-6 boards and assists a game as well for the postseason, and his skills have degraded? 

  Shows you where he was then. 


Someday when the dust settles and people aren't mad anymore, they are going to sit back and MARVEL at what kid has done.  Look at all the guys that been there thru the years, (Shaq, AI, TMac, Vince, Stack, G Hill) they all fall off, and Kobe still sittin there with the elites now (Durant, Melo, Bron, Wade, D12).  Un....real. 

If he can hold out for 2 more years and then 2 of those "less than" type years, his career numbers/highlights/achievements are going to be flat out disgusting. 

all these dudes are 3-4 years older than kobe though

so thats why they fell off faster

and most of them were all better than kobe during the late nineties so it kind of balances out because he outlasted them at the backend of their careers

and i dont think its fair to say shaqs in kobes generation even though he kind of is,but hes like 7-8 years older than kobe

he definitely the best player of his generation though (well its between him and duncan really)


the only guys from kobes generation who i think should still be in their prime right now along with kobe, are garnett,t-mac,and jermaine oneal because of their age.

but injuries got all of them





  

AI came in the league the same year as Kobe, TMac and Vince came in AFTER Kobe, Hill came in 2 years before, Stack the year before Kobe, and Shaq was in a good couple years early, yes, and I said in my last post, I hesitated with him.  But Shaq fell off years ago and has been getting passed around the league ever since.  I don't see Kobe getting moved 3-4 times in the next couple years ya know?  

Stack was done a few years ago, he has been dominat.  Hill, injuries got him.  TMac and Vince?  Same age as Kobe, or relatively close, and they haven't lasted anywhere close to 10 years in terms of dominance.  So that argument is out the window. 
  

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by CP1708

What he have, like 12-13 30 point playoff games, 5-6 boards and assists a game as well for the postseason, and his skills have degraded? 

  Shows you where he was then. 


Someday when the dust settles and people aren't mad anymore, they are going to sit back and MARVEL at what kid has done.  Look at all the guys that been there thru the years, (Shaq, AI, TMac, Vince, Stack, G Hill) they all fall off, and Kobe still sittin there with the elites now (Durant, Melo, Bron, Wade, D12).  Un....real. 

If he can hold out for 2 more years and then 2 of those "less than" type years, his career numbers/highlights/achievements are going to be flat out disgusting. 

all these dudes are 3-4 years older than kobe though

so thats why they fell off faster

and most of them were all better than kobe during the late nineties so it kind of balances out because he outlasted them at the backend of their careers

and i dont think its fair to say shaqs in kobes generation even though he kind of is,but hes like 7-8 years older than kobe

he definitely the best player of his generation though (well its between him and duncan really)


the only guys from kobes generation who i think should still be in their prime right now along with kobe, are garnett,t-mac,and jermaine oneal because of their age.

but injuries got all of them





  

AI came in the league the same year as Kobe, TMac and Vince came in AFTER Kobe, Hill came in 2 years before, Stack the year before Kobe, and Shaq was in a good couple years early, yes, and I said in my last post, I hesitated with him.  But Shaq fell off years ago and has been getting passed around the league ever since.  I don't see Kobe getting moved 3-4 times in the next couple years ya know?  

Stack was done a few years ago, he has been dominat.  Hill, injuries got him.  TMac and Vince?  Same age as Kobe, or relatively close, and they haven't lasted anywhere close to 10 years in terms of dominance.  So that argument is out the window. 
  

 

[bijald0331]

I don't think people remember PEAK Kobe. Dude was unreal. Peak Kobe for me is that 13 game ~550 point run...

And standalone best player...

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23

Originally Posted by Do Be Doo

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Please stop mentioning the Spurs in threads that have nothing to do with them.

My fault.
But I wouldn't be surprise if KOBE starts to decline this season. Three stright years to the finals and he played Olympic ball too.I mean he is only human. 
right?

  

He's not like the Spurs

kobe can actually repeat or even threepeat

  

 

[bijald0331]

I don't think people remember PEAK Kobe. Dude was unreal. Peak Kobe for me is that 13 game ~550 point run...

And standalone best player...

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23

Originally Posted by Do Be Doo

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Please stop mentioning the Spurs in threads that have nothing to do with them.

My fault.
But I wouldn't be surprise if KOBE starts to decline this season. Three stright years to the finals and he played Olympic ball too.I mean he is only human. 
right?

  

He's not like the Spurs

kobe can actually repeat or even threepeat

  

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by CP1708

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

Originally Posted by CP1708

What he have, like 12-13 30 point playoff games, 5-6 boards and assists a game as well for the postseason, and his skills have degraded? 

  Shows you where he was then. 


Someday when the dust settles and people aren't mad anymore, they are going to sit back and MARVEL at what kid has done.  Look at all the guys that been there thru the years, (Shaq, AI, TMac, Vince, Stack, G Hill) they all fall off, and Kobe still sittin there with the elites now (Durant, Melo, Bron, Wade, D12).  Un....real. 

If he can hold out for 2 more years and then 2 of those "less than" type years, his career numbers/highlights/achievements are going to be flat out disgusting. 

all these dudes are 3-4 years older than kobe though

so thats why they fell off faster

and most of them were all better than kobe during the late nineties so it kind of balances out because he outlasted them at the backend of their careers

and i dont think its fair to say shaqs in kobes generation even though he kind of is,but hes like 7-8 years older than kobe

he definitely the best player of his generation though (well its between him and duncan really)


the only guys from kobes generation who i think should still be in their prime right now along with kobe, are garnett,t-mac,and jermaine oneal because of their age.

but injuries got all of them





  

AI came in the league the same year as Kobe, TMac and Vince came in AFTER Kobe, Hill came in 2 years before, Stack the year before Kobe, and Shaq was in a good couple years early, yes, and I said in my last post, I hesitated with him.  But Shaq fell off years ago and has been getting passed around the league ever since.  I don't see Kobe getting moved 3-4 times in the next couple years ya know?  

Stack was done a few years ago, he has been dominat.  Hill, injuries got him.  TMac and Vince?  Same age as Kobe, or relatively close, and they haven't lasted anywhere close to 10 years in terms of dominance.  So that argument is out the window. 
  

i know all these dudes are in the same generation as kobe-nba wise

i know they all came in right at the same time

but i was saying most of them were a good 3-4 years older than kobe

thats why they degraded a good 3-4 years before kobe


im talkin age here,not seasons in th league.


and thats why i brought up garnett,t-mac,and jermaine oneal because they are within like 1-2 years of kobes age

i was sayin they should still be in their primes like kobe,but injuries got em



but iverson is like 35 years old even though he came in the same year as kobe

so thats why i argued that he was better than kobe earlier on cuz he was older, and now hes worse because he older

get it?



i def. give him his props though,he has been great