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That isn't the same as Europeans enslaving Africans. AT ALL.Originally Posted by MarleysProtege
what about blacks selling blacks in the slave trade to get themselves rich?
Originally Posted by MARTIN AND CO
les,
Did I paint it as a fair comparison? I mean slavery is just disgusting point blank, and its unjustifiable. To be honest though, what do you know about how Egyptians treated their slaves? Thats a real question because I'm honestly unsure of how Egyptians treated their slaves, but could it have been that much better than American slaves? The worst slave trading was the Eastern Slave trade, in which whites had no direct part of.
Its just that when slavery comes up, only the last 400 years seem to be discussed, which is perfectly understandable, since thats really the only relevant slavery to any American or black residing in North or South America.
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To be honest with you, I'm not really an expert either, just an avid reader.
The thing is though, isn't that option to convert kind of a moot point? I mean ok so option or no option, 20 Million still died you know?
I would question if the option to convert was ever presented to these slaves in the first place, because I think you are right about not Muslims being able to own Muslims, but wouldn't you convert to another religion if it meant you could be free, even if the conversion was only symbolic? Also if you think about it, if your primary business was slaves, would you really want to give up your lively hood? Would you really just buy all these slaves to resell, or take them time to raid villages to capture them, and then say, "ok, if you all convert to Islam I will free you". I think not. Slavery wasn't really looked down upon then, so I doubt many people who would partake in the slave trade would let people out on a moral ground anyway.
and slavery was different there....they wouldn't be packed into a boat like a can of sardines
Originally Posted by MarleysProtege
who said it was ... but africans sold their own kind to europeans LONG after they knew what the deal was
Originally Posted by MARTIN AND CO
To be honest with you, I'm not really an expert either, just an avid reader.
The thing is though, isn't that option to convert kind of a moot point? I mean ok so option or no option, 20 Million still died you know?
I would question if the option to convert was ever presented to these slaves in the first place, because I think you are right about not Muslims being able to own Muslims, but wouldn't you convert to another religion if it meant you could be free, even if the conversion was only symbolic? Also if you think about it, if your primary business was slaves, would you really want to give up your lively hood? Would you really just buy all these slaves to resell, or take them time to raid villages to capture them, and then say, "ok, if you all convert to Islam I will free you". I think not. Slavery wasn't really looked down upon then, so I doubt many people who would partake in the slave trade would let people out on a moral ground anyway.
and slavery was different there....they wouldn't be packed into a boat like a can of sardines
But did africans try to destroy their psyche?Originally Posted by MarleysProtege
who said it was ... but africans sold their own kind to europeans LONG after they knew what the deal was
Originally Posted by early90s
I was thinking about this earlier today, and I was really confused. What don't they want us to know about our history and heritage? Why did they go to such
extreme measures to try and subjugate us? Why? Like on some real +$#*. Just because of our pigment? I feel it has to be more than that.
Both of those are based on economic status you dunce not race.Originally Posted by CharmCityKid
also, look at the living conditions they have for us in EVERY MAJOR CITY across the country. housing projects. look at the difference in the education given to the inner city schools vs. the suburbs, for example. coincidence?? i think not.
Originally Posted by CharmCityKid
Originally Posted by early90s
I was thinking about this earlier today, and I was really confused. What don't they want us to know about our history and heritage? Why did they go to such
extreme measures to try and subjugate us? Why? Like on some real +$#*. Just because of our pigment? I feel it has to be more than that.
great question!! ince u really give this question some in depth educated thought, u KNOW it is some DEEP.
i know many will flame me for saying this, but it is what it is. we (not just us blacks, but ppl of color) are God's chosen ppl. each of Jesus' 12 disciples had a "tribe" or lineage, hence the term "the 12 tribes of Isreal."
if u google the name cesar borgia, u will see pics of the GREAT LIE. that is, u'll see the person who we were told is Jesus. The false picture that people today believe is Christ was actually a real person. his name was cesar borgia. he was an ancient roman. he was also a rapist, a homosexual, and a murderer among many other things. like i said, i'm not here to argue with anyone, so if u don't believe what i am saying, do the research. it is def. all there.
believe or not, blacks were once kings and queens and we actualy ruled the world. our transgressions led us toward accepting paganism and other horrible things which ultimately led to the Lord scattering us across what He refers to as "the four corners of the earth." the state of the black man and the majority of ppl of color today is punishment from The Most High, himself and is a direct result of our transgressions against Him many, many years ago.
if u want to get technical, blacks are the real jews. i understand that many ppl reading this will not accept this as fact, and why would u?? it's not like we have been taught the truth. we have all been taught and have all been living this GREAT LIE. there are many "jewish" ppl who know the truth, but u will NEVER gear them admit to any of this.
if u look back throughout all of world history, every nation that has had us in captivity has ruled the world. as we were displaced throughout the 4 corners by Christ as punishment, we now have little to know knowledge of our true roots. most blacks don't understand that we were actually kings & queens at one point.
as i'm u sure u can guess, it goes much, much deeper as i have not even began to scratch the surface. we are one of the only groups that don't have a "home." africa is not out home, tho it once was. but africans won't accept us in africa. nor would we fit in in africa anyway because this is all we know.
i'm kinda straying off topic a little maybe but there is so much to say on this topic, but i know ppl would rather see pics as opposed to actually read.
believe or not, blacks were once kings and queens and we actualy ruled the world. our transgressions led us toward accepting paganism and other horrible things which ultimately led to the Lord scattering us across what He refers to as "the four corners of the earth." the state of the black man and the majority of ppl of color today is punishment from The Most High, himself and is a direct result of our transgressions against Him many, many years ago.
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Originally Posted by moonmaster3
believe or not, blacks were once kings and queens and we actualy ruled the world. our transgressions led us toward accepting paganism and other horrible things which ultimately led to the Lord scattering us across what He refers to as "the four corners of the earth." the state of the black man and the majority of ppl of color today is punishment from The Most High, himself and is a direct result of our transgressions against Him many, many years ago.
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All jokes aside, I really hope that person doesn't believe the story of Ham in the Old Testament...
In terms of absolute numbers, the lowest possible (and only barely possible at that) death toll we can put on the trans-Atlantic slave trade is 6 million. If we assume the absolute worst, a death toll as high as 60 million is at the very edge of possibility; however, the likeliest number of deaths would fall somewhere from 15 to 20 million.
For a second I thought you might be intelligent until you come around and say that you know what my family looks like. If I didnt tell you thattheir father was black, there is no way in hell you would ever have guessed guaranteed. They are whiter than me guyOriginally Posted by eNPHAN
are any of them white with Caucasian features?Originally Posted by GrandaddyPurp415
cool. my whole entire family is like that. please quit trying to school me. But it is funny taht you mention this because I have two female cousins whos father was a dark black male and their mother (my aunt) is spanish. They are the same skin tone as me, which is light. Then she has kids with another dark hispanic guy and their kids are a lil darker
the answer, undoubtedly, is no.
[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]There shouldn't be a month for a race period. The most acknowledgment you do see infebuary is BET, ut we all know BET basically goes againest the teachings of those they preach. However all these +#$@@## textbooks of absolutely $$!#!$!! needto get rewritten and put into rainbow type view. The white christians are shown throughout US history and little of everything else[/color]Originally Posted by iceman7920
why can't we have a mexican history month and a hawaiian history month and a chinese history month and a white history month..........
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze
The Sphinx kind of says it all....without ever speaking....
They shoot of our nose to spite our skin.