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The only characters I care about fox having are doctor doom and wolverine. Those 2 deserve better, MUCH better
 
I don't think it is bad blood, I mean does Fox have anything against Marvel? I thought it was Marvel that pretty much had it in for Fox?

The new FF have been in production hell and Fox were really just making it to keep the franchise because they believe it can still make them money. They still want the franchise and were doing anything to keep it, first announce where they were going to shoot and then change that location and I think they changed a third time too. They pretty much stalled and stalled until they settled for what they have now.
 
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Even if the Wolverines ending tie in with DoFP, that is still the past and part of the past that they nullified.

I'm not saying the new Wolverine will be different but I don't think the next one will continue from where they left off in The Wolverine. I'm really not sure where they are at with it, I think the director is still the same along with Jackman to be released in 2017 but outside of that, no other stories or plots have been revealed.
It won't. It thematically can't.

I'm saying expect more of the same cuz the team that made it was rumored to be coming back if Jackman is up for it.

Jackman might say no and stick with the team movies though. He's in a similar position as RDJR.

With FOX feelings themselves and being risky they may make this Gambit solo movie and not return to Wolverine until they're ready to recast. Also chance Jackman shows up as Wolverine in X-Force.
 
Prof X hasn't been a big player for like 16 years really and now he's dead. Marvel would want Wolverine more than anything.

If Fox made better movies everything would be just the way Marvel wants it. They get to make money off these movies and by and large release more superhero movies than anybody else.

Is some other studio was making X-Men and F4 movies I bet Marvel would be a bit happier about the situation cuz I think regardless Feige likes the challenge and wants to develop these other Marvel properties. He took on the challenge of making Iron Man, Thor, and Cap good franchises so no surprise he wants to dust Dr. Strange off so it can get it's full potential and revamp Inhumans. Add in what was just done with GotG and I'm sure Marvel is no longer crying for SONY and FOX to give back the rights as soon as possible.

Marvel is doing a stellar job with their character they still own film rights to but the magic they could create with having an ensemble of their other famous teams would be insane. Like really just imagine a civil war film. They could separate it into 2-3 parts :o It doesn't matter to them now most likely because they're still winning but it never gonna feel 100% with their films

I bet you the Fantastic Four probably has a lot to do with the bad blood between Marvel and Fox.

They probably figured they couldn't begrudge Fox the x-men franchise because at least they've been doing something with the X-Men. Not so much with FF. They've literally been sitting on the franchise for 7 years.

Man, if Marvel had FF... they'd have the Kree, Galactus, the Silver Surfer, Doctor Doom. :{

I don't even care about the actual Fantastic four ppl.

They could also introduce the inhumans properly if they had the FF but Marvels galactic side will always feel incomplete if they can't have galactus in a film
 
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I don't think it is bad blood, I mean does Fox have anything against Marvel? I thought it was Marvel that pretty much had it in for Fox?

The new FF have been in production hell and Fox were really just making it to keep the franchise because they believe it can still make them money. They still want the franchise and were doing anything to keep it, first announce where they were going to shoot and then change that location and I think they changed a third time too. They pretty much stalled and stalled until they settled for what they have now.

And I think that probably annoyed the **** out of Marvel.

It'd be one thing if Fox has been doing their thing with FF like they've been doing with the X-Men, but the fact that they've been sitting on the franchise and not willing to sell it because it could make them money. I'd be annoyed :{
 
I swear to god if Marvel had their hands on Dr. Doom, he'd probably be the most popular villain ever.

The avengers should be fighting dr. Doom, not ultron. I have nothing against ultron by dr doom would steal the show without a doubt. His disrespect alone would lead to endless quotables
 
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I don't even know why Marvel would be annoyed, I mean they have a full plate already, hell they are moving to 3 films a year w/o any XMen or FF characters in their possession plus a bunch of Netflix shows. I know they tried to take Silver Surfer in exchange to keeping Daredevil and Fox said no but Marvel doesn't really need them at this point. And Marvel still makes money off of anything Fox makes so they can sit back and focus on what they have and still make millions off of Fox.
 
Prof X hasn't been a big player for like 16 years really and now he's dead. Marvel would want Wolverine more than anything.

If Fox made better movies everything would be just the way Marvel wants it. They get to make money off these movies and by and large release more superhero movies than anybody else.

Is some other studio was making X-Men and F4 movies I bet Marvel would be a bit happier about the situation cuz I think regardless Feige likes the challenge and wants to develop these other Marvel properties. He took on the challenge of making Iron Man, Thor, and Cap good franchises so no surprise he wants to dust Dr. Strange off so it can get it's full potential and revamp Inhumans. Add in what was just done with GotG and I'm sure Marvel is no longer crying for SONY and FOX to give back the rights as soon as possible.

Marvel is doing a stellar job with their character they still own film rights to but the magic they could create with having an ensemble of their other famous teams would be insane. Like really just imagine a civil war film. They could separate it into 2-3 parts :o It doesn't matter to them now most likely because they're still winning but it never gonna feel 100% with their films
While this is true, I think they've largely moved on and it gives them way more room to be creative instead of doing stuff ppl would really anticipate. They're basically about to a movie based on an event nobody was craving yet managed to get the hype train behind and they're delivering it.

Feige would rather try to get ppl hype about something less known that do the typical at this point. Besides that still think it's a bit soon for a Civil War trilogy or w/e even if they had the rights they needed now and honestly they could still do it without Reed and Spidey.

I swear to god if Marvel had their hands on Dr. Doom, he'd probably be the most popular villain ever.

The avengers should be fighting dr. Doom, not ultron. I have nothing against ultron by dr doom would steal the show without a doubt. His disrespect alone would lead to endless quotables
Blame Stan and Jack for largely making Doom a F4 villain while Ultron is one of the Avengers iconic oldest foes.
 
Doom is iconic as an FF villain though. It's just with marvel no one villain is set for characters. Namor could have beef with Red Skull and Hulk can have it out for Magneto
 
Yeah, I get that characters belong to a set group. It'd just make for a great movie. I have no problems with ultron but he's defiantly not one of my favorite villains at all. He's just bad for the sake of being bad. No "human" dynamic, and yes I get he's really just AI that transfers to different powerful robotic bodies.
 
I can feel you on that. Most stuff related to Hank Pym is lame.

I'm tired of the robot apocalypse threats.

I'm mainly interested cuz Spader is playing him so we're guaranteed to get an Ultron with a personality we've never seen in the comics and probably eventually the comics will adapt that version since they're already about to make Tony like his younger self (and I assume that version will recreate Ultron in time for A2).
 
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I can't wait until I see that moment they described in the teaser footage. Sounds epic. Literally sounds like a moment ripped from the books.
 
Master Zik, we can't count on you to be objective on anything robot related.

I still remember your roboticist rant lol.

Whedon will do Ultron justice. I really think the Spader Whedon combo will do fantastic. Spader's delivery and Whedon's lines = the goods
 
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:lol That's exactly what my last post is coming from. Kill these robots now or you'll regret it later.

Human power!
 
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That's exactly what my last post is coming from. Kill these robots now or you'll regret it later.

Human power!
But whut about vision bruh?
 
Meh. Go Ultron. Kill them all.

And yea, I wonder about the twins too.

Seems to be a lot of ingredients brewing in that Avengers 2 stew.
 
:lol That's exactly what my last post is coming from. Kill these robots now or you'll regret it later.


Human power!


But whut about vision bruh?
**** the Vision. I can't think of many cool and/or interesting robot type characters. The whole dynamic falls flat for me. The Vision is boring and lame. Just another case of a robot taking the spot of a minority on a superhero team.

I dunno what it is but I guess I outgrew all the robot **** quicker than others. It's like Terminator is a cool movie but that about it. I can easily flip and say **** em especially when this **** becomes reality. **** I, Robot, **** skynet, **** the Matrix, **** androids, yup you too Data, **** the original human torch, **** Johnny 5, **** Wall-E, **** Mega Man, **** em.
 
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:lol That's exactly what my last post is coming from. Kill these robots now or you'll regret it later.


Human power!


But whut about vision bruh?
**** the Vision. I can't think of many cool and/or interesting robot type characters. The whole dynamic falls flat for me. The Vision is boring and lame. Just another case of a robot taking the spot of a minority on a superhero team.

I dunno what it is but I guess I outgrew all the robot **** quicker than others. It's like Terminator is a cool movie but that about it. I can easily flip and say **** em especially when this **** becomes reality. **** I, Robot, **** skynet, **** the Matrix, **** androids, yup you too Data, **** the original human torch, **** Johnny 5, **** Wall-E, **** Mega Man, **** em.


Zik went B-Rabbit with the accapella.
 
I dunno what it is but I guess I outgrew all the robot **** quicker than others. It's like Terminator is a cool movie but that about it. I can easily flip and say **** em especially when this **** becomes reality. **** I, Robot, **** skynet, **** the Matrix, **** androids, yup you too Data, **** the original human torch, **** Johnny 5, **** Wall-E, **** Mega Man, **** em.

Too far.


 
Johnny Five. Lol I just watched that movie for the first time in over twenty years a couple weeks ago. **** sent me straight back to my childhood. Nostalgia overload that I haven't felt in the longest time
 
Johnny 5 was that dude.... :hat

Deff caught the feels as a kid when in the 2nd one those dudes beat him down... :(

Radioshack coming through in the clutch though... :hat
 
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