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That's fine if Spidey doesn't appear. But seeing Peter Parker in the movie would be nice.
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I mean we may still get the suit in the movie just not him wearing it. Then my reps from amel will come through
ssjjfar
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Well the reason/basis ny one would just say is the original story. I do agree with it just being a cameo, or even if it was limited rule, it is sort of pointless to try bring in Spider-man since he can't really be the role he was in comics since he isn't an established hero in MCU.
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but spiderman is still probably hands down the most popular marvel character. Nothing to establish him with because he's been established.
if they ever do a scene about signing up.. they could just have peter parker on there saying how hes spider man and do some sort of trick to prove it (instead of wearing the suit)
if they ever do a scene about signing up.. they could just have peter parker on there saying how hes spider man and do some sort of trick to prove it (instead of wearing the suit)
ssjjfar
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Established in the Marvel Cinematic Universe I meant. He easily is the most popular Marvel here out there, we as a audience aren't going to need help knowing who he is. In the MCU, If they just hold a press conference and say I'm Spider-Man, everyone either is going to be like, "Who is Spider-Man?" or "Oh yeah, your that superhero who defends NYC, but was no where to be found when aliens invaded it".
I mean I guess they could just retroactively write him in and just say he was saving civilians elsewhere in NYC during the invasion, and just say he's been there the entire time. But I was just assuming Spider-Man is/was going to be new hero in the world, and if that is/will be the case, his relevance to the story is limited because he doesn't have the famous hero status yet, and hence just a cameo.
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I still put IM3 over Thor...........
lol and just saw your post to me about when I said why I didn't like Iron man.
so true...
I agree. Thor 1 was straight trash. But IDK if Thor or IM 2 deserves to be on the bottom. They nearly equally suck
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Why do people want Spider-Man to have a big role in Cap 3?
Doesn't make sense for all these established heroes to be worrying about some teen in a homemade costume.
No real secret identities in the MCU either.
Doesn't make sense for all these established heroes to be worrying about some teen in a homemade costume.
No real secret identities in the MCU either.
iDon’tRead
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isnt marisa tomei to young to be aunt may?
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She is 50
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I still put IM3 over Thor...........
lol and just saw your post to me about when I said why I didn't like Iron man.
so true...
Hopefully the Civil War film will be better than the movie. Overall the Cinematic universe has been a major success, so i'm optimistic.
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I agree that he can't play the role he did in the CW comics since he hasn't been around in the MCU, but it's Spider-Man. People have been waiting forever for Marvel to get there hands on him so I personally think there are some fans that are letting their experiment to see Spider-Man in Civil War cloud their judgment, but what do I know.
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I wish Marvel had full control. People also forget Sony is still involved.
I'm a bit concerned about the solo film too. The writers wrote that new Vacation movie and that has been getting horrible reviews.
Don't want to see a Spider-Man film filled with dumb "gross out" comedy
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I sort of don't understand why people keep wishing for Marvel to have possession of these other than to mix other character/story lines in with each other.
I mean how much better of film do you think we'll get if marvel did it. Whose to say Marvel still wouldn't have hired singer for X men......
Its not like the people at Sony or Fox who work on these films are oblivious to comics... they may have say in how gritty it gets or light hearted. but other than that it's not like Marvel would do some of these films SOOOO much more justice ****cough Thor, Ironman 3, Thor 2 ***cough
Only advantage for all these films to be under one rough is for mentions / Cameos, and Merchandise
I mean how much better of film do you think we'll get if marvel did it. Whose to say Marvel still wouldn't have hired singer for X men......
Its not like the people at Sony or Fox who work on these films are oblivious to comics... they may have say in how gritty it gets or light hearted. but other than that it's not like Marvel would do some of these films SOOOO much more justice ****cough Thor, Ironman 3, Thor 2 ***cough
Only advantage for all these films to be under one rough is for mentions / Cameos, and Merchandise
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You sure about that?
I don't want every character under one company. Marvel making good comic films makes everyone else attempt to step their games up.
Look at DC/WB, they finally realized that other characters can work if done right
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don't think marvel is eager for this:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80192
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DC/WB is crazy/stupid for never having anyone more than bat man super man and bad Green lantern film
their animation and TV shows are ON POINT (I dont watch arrow or flash but heard they were good. I watched the first 3-4 seasons of smallville and liked it)
Never understood what they're waiting for.
They've always had the tools.
just never pulled.
In the long run though DC/WB are PAID they may not have those film #s but TV animation and merchandise they're still killing it.
If you were to put all the super heroes together as far as money/sales I am spit balling but i think it would go like this
1. Spiderman / Batman
2. Superman/ Ironman
3. Captain America
4. Other marvel
5. Other DC
their animation and TV shows are ON POINT (I dont watch arrow or flash but heard they were good. I watched the first 3-4 seasons of smallville and liked it)
Never understood what they're waiting for.
They've always had the tools.
just never pulled.
In the long run though DC/WB are PAID they may not have those film #s but TV animation and merchandise they're still killing it.
If you were to put all the super heroes together as far as money/sales I am spit balling but i think it would go like this
1. Spiderman / Batman
2. Superman/ Ironman
3. Captain America
4. Other marvel
5. Other DC
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DC easily should have used superman to be the starting point for their movie universe..
have villians coming out all over the place
have young bruce realize he's wasting his life and that he needs to get his act together in light of what had happened and what is going on around him.. then you could have barry allen doing a similar thing.. and you could foreshadow the research that goes into making cyborg, cyborg
but they could have easily looked at how marvel built up to the avengers and do origin stories for: superman, batman, flash, wonder woman, green lantern and aquaman
then you could introduce martian manhunter and cyborg in the films.. hell you could tie green lantern's origin or shazam's into the justice league movies
as you said the animated movies are on point.. and they could follow a similar path, where certain people's origins are tied in with those films.. the main guys you do their origins before in separate films in the build up to justice league
have villians coming out all over the place
have young bruce realize he's wasting his life and that he needs to get his act together in light of what had happened and what is going on around him.. then you could have barry allen doing a similar thing.. and you could foreshadow the research that goes into making cyborg, cyborg
but they could have easily looked at how marvel built up to the avengers and do origin stories for: superman, batman, flash, wonder woman, green lantern and aquaman
then you could introduce martian manhunter and cyborg in the films.. hell you could tie green lantern's origin or shazam's into the justice league movies
as you said the animated movies are on point.. and they could follow a similar path, where certain people's origins are tied in with those films.. the main guys you do their origins before in separate films in the build up to justice league
ssjjfar
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Don't remember if it was in here or somewhere else, but there was a chart done on merchandise sales, and Spider-man was number one for all sales. Marvel as a whole had way way more than DC in general.
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The WB conundrum has been discussed ad nauseam, you really have to take a look at their cinematic history.
Wall of text below so I am spoilering it because NTers are afraid of them.
Wall of text below so I am spoilering it because NTers are afraid of them.
They're old CEO didn't like risks and when Schumachers Bat films were lambasted by the critics and flopped, they become discourage and more cautious. Hell it took them 19 years before they were brave enough to release a follow up to a Superman film, that's how bad Superman IV was and how cautious they are. They tried to release the newly documented Superman Lives and that one didn't get made because of the string of box office bombs by WB (it's a good watch for comic book fans). Then when they were going to do a JL film by George Miller (yes, Mad Max director) the film got shut down because of the writers strike (they were already close to production and all cast were on hand to shoot within a week or so iirc) and in the end the studio probably felt that it was again more risk and pulled the plug.
It also didn't help that the budget for Superman Lives (and I believe the failed JL film) was added to the Superman Returns budget so it got inflated and the film looked more of a flop that it actually was, not saying the film was great or anything at all but it made close to those XMen films and back then, it wouldn't have looked as bad if the budget were lower.
Then there's the GL flop that didn't help at all and all other films got shuffled around in limbo and went no where and that is despite Nolans Batverse success.
But back to the CEO, once WB got a new one last year (maybe two years ago, I forget) then look what happened, a DCEU announced a full movie line-up til 2020 including the much criticized Cyborg solo film (this is how much risk they are willing to put out there now). Then all these tv shows got greenlit for any channels wiling to make them (Flash, Arrow, Gotham, Supergirl, Constantine, Teen Ttitans, Legends of Tomorrow, etc...). Those are no coincidence that it happened all of a sudden once the new CEO took over.
In the end, it just wasn't as easy as simply putting out any characters out there on the big screen, for a long while WB/DC was fine with one film at a time. Marvel Studios revolutionized how we view these films and the whole cinematic universe and we have been spoiled. It's a bit unfair to simply say "WB should have done this" when what Marvel did was unprecedented. IM was a huge risk for Marvel too and had that failed there would be no MCU today, keep in mind that before that they witness Hulk, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil and Elektra fail miserably. Not by Marvel Studios but you get the idea. Outside of the bigger names (XMen and Spidey and Batman) most of the tier 2 and tier 3 heroes weren't a big success so someone had to take that jump and Marvel Studios did and succeeded. It didn't help that the movies weren't that good but again it just wasn't that easy to make comics a success.
And all that is really just a small piece of a huge pie when it comes to comic book films. I am surely forgetting and missing plenty of details there.
Again I suggest watching the Superman Lives Doc, you can see how comic book films were created and viewed back then, they snuffed on comic book writers because they felt their writing wouldn't translate well to the film.
It also didn't help that the budget for Superman Lives (and I believe the failed JL film) was added to the Superman Returns budget so it got inflated and the film looked more of a flop that it actually was, not saying the film was great or anything at all but it made close to those XMen films and back then, it wouldn't have looked as bad if the budget were lower.
Then there's the GL flop that didn't help at all and all other films got shuffled around in limbo and went no where and that is despite Nolans Batverse success.
But back to the CEO, once WB got a new one last year (maybe two years ago, I forget) then look what happened, a DCEU announced a full movie line-up til 2020 including the much criticized Cyborg solo film (this is how much risk they are willing to put out there now). Then all these tv shows got greenlit for any channels wiling to make them (Flash, Arrow, Gotham, Supergirl, Constantine, Teen Ttitans, Legends of Tomorrow, etc...). Those are no coincidence that it happened all of a sudden once the new CEO took over.
In the end, it just wasn't as easy as simply putting out any characters out there on the big screen, for a long while WB/DC was fine with one film at a time. Marvel Studios revolutionized how we view these films and the whole cinematic universe and we have been spoiled. It's a bit unfair to simply say "WB should have done this" when what Marvel did was unprecedented. IM was a huge risk for Marvel too and had that failed there would be no MCU today, keep in mind that before that they witness Hulk, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil and Elektra fail miserably. Not by Marvel Studios but you get the idea. Outside of the bigger names (XMen and Spidey and Batman) most of the tier 2 and tier 3 heroes weren't a big success so someone had to take that jump and Marvel Studios did and succeeded. It didn't help that the movies weren't that good but again it just wasn't that easy to make comics a success.
And all that is really just a small piece of a huge pie when it comes to comic book films. I am surely forgetting and missing plenty of details there.
Again I suggest watching the Superman Lives Doc, you can see how comic book films were created and viewed back then, they snuffed on comic book writers because they felt their writing wouldn't translate well to the film.
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Peter probably switches to caps side after finding out that tony smashed
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I love emily blunt ......but to a point. She doesnt look like a captain Marvel.
MARVEL needs to let some less knowns eat.
MARVEL needs to let some less knowns eat.
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