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Called me ****** up, but I don't want them ****** in PG either.
Going to ruin **** for the ****** who actually live a decent life out here.
They can keep that **** wherever its at son.
Wasn't New York City More Grimey In The 80s & 90s In Constrast To Now
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Called me ****** up, but I don't want them ****** in PG either.
Going to ruin **** for the ****** who actually live a decent life out here.
They can keep that **** wherever its at son.
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Ninja is not necessarily wrong though
people still want to own but they are seeking to do so in the cities with townhouses or condos or suburbs that are immediately outside of cities that provide immediate access.
people still want to own but they are seeking to do so in the cities with townhouses or condos or suburbs that are immediately outside of cities that provide immediate access.
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No one is debating that. It's the basic reason for gentrification
The point that I was trying to make (and it seemed others were trying to make) is that these gentrifying hipsters don't give a damn about the "Dominican culture" in the Heights, they simply want to live in Manhattan at the cheapest possible price...
No one is debating that. It's the basic reason for gentrification
The point that I was trying to make (and it seemed others were trying to make) is that these gentrifying hipsters don't give a damn about the "Dominican culture" in the Heights, they simply want to live in Manhattan at the cheapest possible price...
This.
Earlier in the thread dude said the "culture" is being lost.
Because the new people that move in dont want that culture. They bring in their own.
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def no denying that ... i was referring to what he highlighted questioning Ninja's assertion that the American dream is dying...it isNo one is debating that. It's the basic reason for gentrification
The point that I was trying to make (and it seemed others were trying to make) is that these gentrifying hipsters don't give a damn about the "Dominican culture" in the Heights, they simply want to live in Manhattan at the cheapest possible price...
...unless that was in reference to something non related to the original argument at hand ... hmmmmmm iono at this point ...
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What's the point of this stupid video? The American Dream isn't dying per se, but the traditional dream isn't being sought out anymore. The subprime mortgage scandal and ensuing foreclosures did enough damage to that vision. Buying a home is a huge commitment that many aren't willing to make anymore. Families are among those gentrifying. It was once thought that when you had your family, you're out to the home with the picket white fence. Not really true anymore. People are moving back to the cities. The suburbs are going to become the new ghettos and hoods in due time when the people who were displaced by gentrification end up there. Its not a coincidence that the housing crisis and the dramatic rise in gentrification in NYC started around the same time.
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How did I know you would be in here ******** on The Bronx
THIS is "current" Bronx.
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Don't confuse the south Bronx and other small pockets with the rest of the borough.
If you truly ventured into the borough, you'd see they're more good parts than bad parts.
if that's Riverdale or city island that's the only 2 nice parts of the bronx
in fact i rather live there then where i currently live now
if i was a yuppie/hipster i would not want manhattan as my home i would to live here
but living in the burbs would not make you a hipster
living in a tenement for $2500.00 a month on the same block as a luxury building that has 4 boutiques & 6 bars does
if i could afford i would rather live in the suburbs
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I dont really agree with this. I lived in Miami for a time for school....In a 4 bedroom home, with a lot of land in the backyard, in a gated community.
At the end of the day, I'm a New Yorker and I'm never leaving this city. My American dream is to have a nice place where I can view Central Park, with a view of the East or Hudson rivers, seeing the Empire State building and WT lit up at night.
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The video was posted because dude believes that The new american dream is to move into the city. Maybe for the yuppies, but the idea of owning a house and raising a family in a good neighborhood is still as strong as it once was. Only issue is its become harder to achieve or maintain. Dream is still there and strong.
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Nah bruh I agree with you 100%
When I heard that some section 8 folks got moved to my neighborhood, then IMMEDIATLEY cats hanging out in front of the Chinese food spot rose like 200%.
Had me feeling like those old white people who were in PG in the early 70s before Blacks took over.
"I don't like all these changes. We gotta figure out how to keep 'em out!"
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@ the thought of the burbs becoming the new ghetto, ya must be out your minds, do you know how many small WEALTHY towns are north of the Bronx borderline?....I'm talking OLD MONEY.....these places have been unaffordable way before Brooklyn became what it is today, the people that can no longer afford Brooklyn, NYC...damb sure wont be able to afford say Scarsdale and these communities damb sure wont allow for gentricatjon of the city to overflow low income families into their prestige streets, ya must be out of your mind...I don't know where these low income fame are gonna be pushed out to, but is not gonna be WESTCHESTER at the very least, maybe wayyyyy further north into Poughkeepsie...but then I wanna see how businesses will survive when a big portion of their employees can't make that huge commute to the city to serve the yuppies.
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I say Jersey
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I mean the poor people of NYC will be pushed to Jersey
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Or possibly the poorer parts of upstate
Albany
Buffalo
Newburgh(absolute dump)
Utica
Albany
Buffalo
Newburgh(absolute dump)
Utica
dahuhuhyah
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I'm saying though lol. Like their logic is all off. How are people who are too poor to live in the city gonna be able to move into the suburbs thats still too expensive.@ the thought of the burbs becoming the new ghetto, ya must be out your minds, do you know how many small WEALTHY towns are north of the Bronx borderline?....I'm talking OLD MONEY.....these places have been unaffordable way before Brooklyn became what it is today, the people that can no longer afford Brooklyn, NYC...damb sure wont be able to afford say Scarsdale and these communities damb sure wont allow for gentricatjon of the city to overflow low income families into their prestige streets, ya must be out of your mind...I don't know where these low income fame are gonna be pushed out to, but is not gonna be WESTCHESTER at the very least, maybe wayyyyy further north into Poughkeepsie...but then I wanna see how businesses will survive when a big portion of their employees can't make that huge commute to the city to serve the yuppies.
What happens is what has always happened, the poor move to a new area with jobs and opportunity and affordable. I see those people moving out west.... but to places like SD, ND, Idaho, Montana.
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Many of them are going towards Long Island, Nassau County or even further. I'm sure many made the move to Jersey as well.
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Ninja is a funny dude
You would think Da Heights was Beverly Hills reading his post.
I'd like to see your definition of good.
I wouldn't say more good than bad, but they're a bunch of ok spots.
You would think Da Heights was Beverly Hills reading his post.
How did I know you would be in here ******** on The Bronx
THIS is "current" Bronx.
Don't confuse the south Bronx and other small pockets with the rest of the borough.
If you truly ventured into the borough, you'd see they're more good parts than bad parts.
I'd like to see your definition of good.
I wouldn't say more good than bad, but they're a bunch of ok spots.
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Only so far you can be pushed out into Long Island...lol
Jersey seems like the best bet for a lot of people who find the cost of living in NY unsuitable...but that's only for those who can sustain themselves, those on government assistance I doubt can live outside of NY...I see those people moving waaaay north....but Ninja, they are not touching westchester fam....as much as I do like uptown, da heights is still very much a dump in comparison to some of the neighborhoods just 15 minutes north of the Bronx....don't try to argue that.
Jersey seems like the best bet for a lot of people who find the cost of living in NY unsuitable...but that's only for those who can sustain themselves, those on government assistance I doubt can live outside of NY...I see those people moving waaaay north....but Ninja, they are not touching westchester fam....as much as I do like uptown, da heights is still very much a dump in comparison to some of the neighborhoods just 15 minutes north of the Bronx....don't try to argue that.
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how is northern NJ not a suburb of NYC? does NJ not fall within the NYC metropolitan area?
NJ clearly falls into the definition of as a suburb of NYC...the fact the suburbs are becoming poorer IS happening...for every wealthy suburb, there are just as many poorer areas that surround them as well...
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you live feet away from white plains road and you're trying to be the westchester county spokesman?
wealthy people taking over poor neighborhoods = gentrification, low income families becoming your neighbor would not be considered gentrification
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Agreed on all points. You're delusional if you think those pics are a valid representation of the Bronx.
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no, this is delusional
Then again, half of y'all never been past Parkchester.
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Jersey, upstate (westchesterk, rockland, putnam), long island and the southern part of CT are all considered the burbs.
But NYC in the 70s/80s/early 90s was grimy on a whole other level
Arson in the bronx where in certain neighborhoods 97% of buildings were burned down to collect insurance money, http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_the_bronx_burned_hvgkCrLVekbXBGohd6GFUO
In the late 80s/90s 150,000 cars were stolen in NYC every year, http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/02/opinion/new-york-car-theft-capital-of-the-world.html
On average there were over 7 homicides per day throughout the whole year, along with over half a million felony crimes per year.
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Thats what gave birth to hip hop and all of its elements, but most other cities were going through similar times during that era, just not on as large of a scale as in NYC
But NYC in the 70s/80s/early 90s was grimy on a whole other level
Arson in the bronx where in certain neighborhoods 97% of buildings were burned down to collect insurance money, http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_the_bronx_burned_hvgkCrLVekbXBGohd6GFUO
In the late 80s/90s 150,000 cars were stolen in NYC every year, http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/02/opinion/new-york-car-theft-capital-of-the-world.html
On average there were over 7 homicides per day throughout the whole year, along with over half a million felony crimes per year.
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Thats what gave birth to hip hop and all of its elements, but most other cities were going through similar times during that era, just not on as large of a scale as in NYC
