Unpopular Opinion(s) Thread

[wayniac211]

???? Huh what does my views on refugees have to do with the overall idea of looking out for the best interest of yourself & your inner circle

fam.. you was speaking out on another thread about closing the door on afghan refugees.

i get what you saying though regarding being protective.. i’m super down like four flats over my people's and will do damage to anyone that flexes ..

 

[trynafeelmink]

fam.. you was speaking out on another thread about closing the door on afghan refugees.

i get what you saying though regarding being protective.. i’m super down like four flats over my people's and will do damage to anyone that flexes ..

Yes in another thread where the topic was about Afghanistan . Has nothing to do with all the other situations in life where acting in you & yours best interest before everyone else is applicable.

Since you brought it up tho, i do love how any other culture can can create their own neighborhoods , exclusively give jobs to their own people, spend no money outside of their own community, lobby for laws specifically for their own people.

but the second black people do it we're xenophobic & exclusionary & should be looking out for everyone else's interest. **** is insanity.

 

[Mark Antony]

Those are bait tactics from people who only want to see harm to black people, should never pay their opinion on your progress any mind. Like who cares what a racist thinks is racist?

 

[executive76]

My group of friends stole so many spicy chicken sandwiches out of the steam tables while the lunch ladies had their backs turned that we got the cafeteria audited.

This man knows what's up

Did yall have those Otis spunkmeyer chocolate chip cookies too




Nothing fancy about them at all either...they start out like this

 

[tr1ll]

This man knows what's up

Did yall have those Otis spunkmeyer chocolate chip cookies too




Nothing fancy about them at all either...they start out like this

Bruhh…them things had the halls on fire Thursday mornings! On everything a dude sold me Vol 2(Jay Z) for a dollar for those cookies.

 

[Mark Antony]

Man where the hell ya'll go to school? In NYC dudes just ate the fruit, tossed everything else and got chased by the cafeteria officer for wasting food. Looking back that was pretty wasteful.

 

[tr1ll]

Damn only the fruit?? Food must’ve been terrible. Well i guess if you passing by pizza spots a delis on the way home, that makes sense.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Who hypes up or talks about KFC or Subway like that? Last time I saw/heard something about Subway was about their tuna not actually being tuna.

Mcdonalds...people talk about the fries and the ice cream machines never "working".


People camp over night for school lunch chicken sandwiches when a new chic-fil-a opens

THe millions and millions of people that spend their millions and millions of dollars at those more "Highly Ranked" fast food spots are valued above CFA.

And people lined up for other fast food establishments before they became ESTABLISHED.

But explain your point. What makes them overrated? Because you don't like them?

 

[trynafeelmink]

Those are bait tactics from people who only want to see harm to black people, should never pay their opinion on your progress any mind. Like who cares what a racist thinks is racist?

Oh 100% but the thing that's puzzling is that this doesn't just come from racist, I've heard this same thought process echoed by black people. Not to the extent that they're claiming xenophobia but they will act as if it's wrong for us to have that mindset. there's a subset of black people in America who feel like it's their business to fight for every cause & every other group of marginalized people.

I just personally don't think we're on solid enough standing to be doing that at this point & when people voice that there's another side eagerly awaiting the chance to tell how exclusionary you are or Will only stand behind a certain kind of black person.

 

[Mark Antony]

Damn only the fruit?? Food must’ve been terrible. Well i guess if you passing by pizza spots a delis on the way home, that makes sense.

Exactly, got the best deli, pizza, Chinese food and Caribbean food on the way home.

 

[Mark Antony]

Oh 100% but the thing that's puzzling is that this doesn't just come from racist, I've heard this same thought process echoed by black people. Not to the extent that they're claiming xenophobia but they will act as if it's wrong for us to have that mindset. there's a subset of black people in America who feel like it's their business to fight for every cause & every other group of marginalized people.

I just personally don't think we're on solid enough standing to be doing that at this point & when people voice that there's another side eagerly awaiting the chance to tell how exclusionary you are or Will only stand behind a certain kind of black person.

Agreed, but everyone goes through phases though, may have been there myself. Right now i'm all in with agreeing we're not on solid enough ground to be agreeing with anyone about community building being exclusionary or xenophobic. When the playing field is fair then we can talk.

Was at the doctor reading medical pamphlets and the high blood pressure one had the stress of being black in America as an official bullet point for increased stress and raised blood pressure. Wild to me that it was medically acknowledged. We should start doing more to reduce those overall stressors.

 

[wayniac211]

Yes in another thread where the topic was about Afghanistan . Has nothing to do with all the other situations in life where acting in you & yours best interest before everyone else is applicable.

Since you brought it up tho, i do love how any other culture can can create their own neighborhoods , exclusively give jobs to their own people, spend no money outside of their own community, lobby for laws specifically for their own people.

but the second black people do it we're xenophobic & exclusionary & should be looking out for everyone else's interest. **** is insanity.

i don’t think your xenophobic or whatever..
i think your ignorant just like the trump folks claiming this our land and we don’t want foreigners.

 

[trynafeelmink]

i don’t think your xenophobic or whatever..
i think your ignorant just like the trump folks claiming this our land and we don’t want foreigners.

Those Trump Supporters that you speak of often don't want foreigners over here due to racism & fear of intermixing cultures. So you would be wrong in assuming that.

In that thread i simply stated a few simple points

1) America doesn't care about Afghan refugees & Bringing thousands of them here with no plan, no community & no resources isn't this saving grace that people think, especially when you factor in we're in a pandemic & bringing in 30'000 new citizens with no plan of action & resources.
2) I would be perplexed if we suddenly found billions of dollars & could come up with an effective plan to help Refugees, yet we have homeless people all over America & impoverished communities all throughout America.

I was met with a whole bunch of responses stating that America has the resources, which is something i never denied. Yes America has the resources to end homelessness, extreme poverty, starvation etc etc.... Yet they haven't used those resources to help their own, & there's no realistic precedent set to believe that they will change that approach in the near future.

I was also told that letting in 30,000 immigrants wouldn't impact the black community at all, which is also puzzling because the USA isn't moving those people to Calabasas, they're more than likely going to be sheltered in impoverished communities, communities in which black people are the majority. They will need resources to take care of housing, schooling, job training etc etc.

In a perfect world the US would distribute money to both black people struggling & Refugees, But in reality we know they're not going to do that. funds will be allocated from other services, It damn sure isn't being allocated from the rich, so guess where the money for those services are gonna come from . Not like there isn't hundreds of years of proof of America giving black people the short end of the stick or something.

There is entirely to many examples for me to be debating on whether or not America tosses black peoples concerns & well beings to the bottom of the barrel, so with that in mind Yes i do believe that instead of my people, refugees will get funding & opportunities meant for us. I'm not willing to push my own to the bottom in lieu of Foreigners. If that makes me a ignorant trump supporter

 

[gry60]

Just last year black people were flooding the streets pointing out the racism & fallacies in all these systems fast forward a few months there's black people wishing sickness, loss of jobs & even jail on unvaxxed people & swearing by everything the media says

Too young to remember but i wonder if 9/11 worked this well in terms of turning skepticism into full support for the gov to do whatever they want.

Keyword here is "healthy," which means having the ability to recognize when an action taken by entities we are suspicious of is warranted. There is such a thing as unhealthy skepticism, which is usually expressed solely to confirm one's built-in biases regardless of their validity, and that kind of skepticism is more often than not rooted in misinformation.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

Keyword here is "healthy," which means having the ability to recognize when an action taken by entities we are suspicious of is warranted. There is such a thing as unhealthy skepticism, which is usually expressed solely to confirm one's built-in biases regardless of their validity, and that kind of skepticism is more often than not rooted in misinformation.

Bingo. Also, some ppl act as if COVID is strictly an American issue. If you don’t trust the American government, fine, but if you look up studies done by other countries the conclusions about COVID and Vaccines are largely the same.

 

[beacon ave south]

A school that served these. I'm sure other schools across the US sold them too. Very similar taste to Chic-Fil-a.

Yea no brah. Nothing served in my schools from k-12 had any kind of labels on em. We were lucky if they came individually wrapped.

 

[wayniac211]

Those Trump Supporters that you speak of often don't want foreigners over here due to racism & fear of intermixing cultures. So you would be wrong in assuming that.

In that thread i simply stated a few simple points

1) America doesn't care about Afghan refugees & Bringing thousands of them here with no plan, no community & no resources isn't this saving grace that people think, especially when you factor in we're in a pandemic & bringing in 30'000 new citizens with no plan of action & resources.
2) I would be perplexed if we suddenly found billions of dollars & could come up with an effective plan to help Refugees, yet we have homeless people all over America & impoverished communities all throughout America.

I was met with a whole bunch of responses stating that America has the resources, which is something i never denied. Yes America has the resources to end homelessness, extreme poverty, starvation etc etc.... Yet they haven't used those resources to help their own, & there's no realistic precedent set to believe that they will change that approach in the near future.

I was also told that letting in 30,000 immigrants wouldn't impact the black community at all, which is also puzzling because the USA isn't moving those people to Calabasas, they're more than likely going to be sheltered in impoverished communities, communities in which black people are the majority. They will need resources to take care of housing, schooling, job training etc etc.

In a perfect world the US would distribute money to both black people struggling & Refugees, But in reality we know they're not going to do that. funds will be allocated from other services, It damn sure isn't being allocated from the rich, so guess where the money for those services are gonna come from . Not like there isn't hundreds of years of proof of America giving black people the short end of the stick or something.

There is entirely to many examples for me to be debating on whether or not America tosses black peoples concerns & well beings to the bottom of the barrel, so with that in mind Yes i do believe that instead of my people, refugees will get funding & opportunities meant for us. I'm not willing to push my own to the bottom in lieu of Foreigners. If that makes me a ignorant trump supporter

it’s about opportunity.. refugees have no comprehension of that..
if we deny chance for them we are at the same level of the oppressors

 

[friscostylez]

Bingo. Also, some ppl act as if COVID is strictly an American issue. If you don’t trust the American government, fine, but if you look up studies done by other countries the conclusions about COVID and Vaccines are largely the same.

people don't trust the American government but trust the American government the most doe

 

[frankmatthews]

Those Trump Supporters that you speak of often don't want foreigners over here due to racism & fear of intermixing cultures. So you would be wrong in assuming that.

In that thread i simply stated a few simple points

1) America doesn't care about Afghan refugees & Bringing thousands of them here with no plan, no community & no resources isn't this saving grace that people think, especially when you factor in we're in a pandemic & bringing in 30'000 new citizens with no plan of action & resources.
2) I would be perplexed if we suddenly found billions of dollars & could come up with an effective plan to help Refugees, yet we have homeless people all over America & impoverished communities all throughout America.

I was met with a whole bunch of responses stating that America has the resources, which is something i never denied. Yes America has the resources to end homelessness, extreme poverty, starvation etc etc.... Yet they haven't used those resources to help their own, & there's no realistic precedent set to believe that they will change that approach in the near future.

I was also told that letting in 30,000 immigrants wouldn't impact the black community at all, which is also puzzling because the USA isn't moving those people to Calabasas, they're more than likely going to be sheltered in impoverished communities, communities in which black people are the majority. They will need resources to take care of housing, schooling, job training etc etc.

In a perfect world the US would distribute money to both black people struggling & Refugees, But in reality we know they're not going to do that. funds will be allocated from other services, It damn sure isn't being allocated from the rich, so guess where the money for those services are gonna come from . Not like there isn't hundreds of years of proof of America giving black people the short end of the stick or something.

There is entirely to many examples for me to be debating on whether or not America tosses black peoples concerns & well beings to the bottom of the barrel, so with that in mind Yes i do believe that instead of my people, refugees will get funding & opportunities meant for us. I'm not willing to push my own to the bottom in lieu of Foreigners. If that makes me a ignorant trump supporter

I agree with everything you said here but the part thats missing is whats likely to happen to these people if we dont let them come. Tough to turn your back on that, at least for me. Especially considering its all our fault for even getting involved with these folks in the first place.

 

[gry60]

I was also told that letting in 30,000 immigrants wouldn't impact the black community at all, which is also puzzling because the USA isn't moving those people to Calabasas, they're more than likely going to be sheltered in impoverished communities, communities in which black people are the majority.

That's quite the litany of falsehoods, but this one stood out.

Can you give examples of refugee resettlement programs that specifically target black neighborhoods as resettlement destinations?

When people say you sound like a white supremacist, it's because of the stuff I quoted above.

"They're gonna come take our jobs/money"

Oftentimes, immigrants move to low population/rural areas, most of which are not predominantly Black (could be poor/low cost though); very often, they work in jobs that may/may not pay decently but are physically demanding because for many, the language and cultural barriers are real and take time to get over. Oftentimes, these jobs stay unfulfilled for long periods of time because Americans have better opportunities. Most importantly, immigrants (and in this case, refugees) go where they are welcomed as resettlement programs tend to check with local authorities if they are willing to do that.

Then, there's the assumption that without immigrants, this country would do right by black people, when the reality is that an internationally isolated US looked more like apartheid South Africa than modern day Canada. The post-WII rise of America on the world stage contributed to the movement to end Jim Crow because people could see the discrepancy between the freedoms this country preached about abroad and what they practiced at home. It's no surprise that Donald Trump railed so much about "globalization." And it's also funny that you don't seem to mind the fact that the same Trump has been a very vocal advocate of European immigration to reverse the trend of demographic plurality in the US. Furthermore, the argument that European immigrants would be a better competition against the American worker can be better supported because:
- they generally have a decent level of English + another language, which gives them an edge in multinational companies
- they're often as educated as Americans
- the US has education treaties with European countries that give most of these people the ability to convert their credentials with minimal effort and easily enter the job market.

But no, let's beat on immigrants with some zero-sum nonsense

Minority groups that are seen as successful in this country have been able to merge the foreign policy interests of the US with their own interests within the US. With this country withdrawing from the middle east and being more overt about challenging China, guess where their eyes may turn next? The African continent and everywhere else China has poured money to grow its influence (the Caribbean too). Now would be the time for Black people in the US to strategize in order to leverage that foreign policy shift into better treatment at home, but some of our loudest voices are stuck sounding like off-brand Steven Miller.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Rent moratorium up, unemployment expiring soon…… look at that care America has for the people. They’ll surely lookout for the best interest of refugees.

18 people got shot in a matter of two hours in NYC last week, the majority happening to black people, the majority happening in impoverished neighborhoods, my focus ain't on no foreigners.

 

[gry60]

Rent moratorium up, unemployment expiring soon……

And the folks who don't want to extend those measures explain their decision by saying "we have refugees that will need to be taken care of with that money." Right?

Because that's what your logic suggests.

 

[Mark Antony]

Should have known there were ulterior motives.

 

[trynafeelmink]

And the folks who don't want to extend those measures explain their decision by saying "we have refugees that will need to be taken care of with that money." Right?

Because that's what your logic suggests.

if that's your understanding of my comments..... so be it

I was leaning more towards the US not giving a flying **** about it's own citizens..... which probably wouldn't go well for refugees in this country but **** it, its your world.

 

[Josy Jo]

Referring to someone as "they" is dumb. I'm not doing that.