Uber Driver killed by 13 and 15 yr old in DC

[kungfu koala]

All’s well that ends well. If you are young and steal a car……..this very well could be the end result for you. These juveniles literally killed themselves.

Three of four juveniles killed in a fiery crash in Bowie identified

Three of the four teens killed in a fiery crash in Prince George’s County at the end of September have been identified.

www.fox5dc.com

Pray they were out before the fire. Tough way to go out.

 

[deuce king]

Pray they were out before the fire. Tough way to go out.

Nope……all bodies were burned badly. We’re talking extra crispy champ.

“Following the Sept. 29 crash, Prince George’s County Police said the bodies of the juveniles had been so badly burned that it was difficult to obtain their identities.”

 

[tomdiginson]

Nope……all bodies were burned badly. We’re talking extra crispy champ.

“Following the Sept. 29 crash, Prince George’s County Police said the bodies of the juveniles had been so badly burned that it was difficult to obtain their identities.”

I believe he meant that they died before suffering being burned to death..

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[kungfu koala]

Damn. When it start hitting them rich folks...

 

[fdub]

DC IS PRO CRIMINAL

Blame D.C. City Council for the crime crisis it helped create

As our nation’s capital, Washington, has millions of visitors each year. Hundreds of thousands work in the District, and around 700,000 people live there.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Throw the book at these idiots AND I would go as far as pressing some sort of charges on the parents too...because kids this young, THIS STUPID...more than likely falls on crappy parenting.

Chicago lawmaker wants to fine parents of 'out of control' kids up to $5K, report says

Parents would be fined if their children wreak 'havoc' on the city.

wwmt.com

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

Parents drowning and society wants to throw them an anchor instead of a life vest.

 

[moonman818]

As part of an ordinance proposed by Alderman Raymond Lopez, parents and legal guardians who “willfully and/or knowingly allow a minor in their charge to engage in a host of offenses wreaking havoc on the quality of life in Chicago neighborhoods” could be subject to fines ranging from $1,000 to $5,000 according to The Chicago Sun Times. Offenders would also be required to undergo counseling and community service.

Sounds fair to me. Parents need to be more accountable for their children's actions.

Johnson has previously downplayed such incidents committed by young people, calling them “silly.”

 

[deuce king]

Definitely a step in the right direction as far as fining the parents, rather parent. I say take it one step further and even propose jail time for the single parent or a loss of government assistance to the single parent. Either will suffice as far as I’m concerned. They are your children…….they are YOUR responsibility. Folks don’t want to hear no excuses about “parents drowning”………save that for a daytime women’s talk show.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

How can you PROVE this though?

"As part of an ordinance proposed by Alderman Raymond Lopez, parents and legal guardians who “willfully and/or knowingly allow a minor in their charge to engage in a host of offenses wreaking havoc on the quality of life in Chicago neighborhoods” could be subject to fines
"

 

[HankHill]

How can you PROVE this though?

"As part of an ordinance proposed by Alderman Raymond Lopez, parents and legal guardians who “willfully and/or knowingly allow a minor in their charge to engage in a host of offenses wreaking havoc on the quality of life in Chicago neighborhoods” could be subject to fines
"

By seeing how negligent they are to their child's behavior, making them culpable of not trying to curb it.

If you don't know the names of your kid's friends they always hang out with? You're culpable.
If you haven't sprung for a cheap doorbell camera to get alerted when they try to sneak out? You're culpable.
If you're child has gotten a first offense while at school or sneaking out, and you didn't do any of the above? You're culpable.

None of these are hard to do for parents who actually invest in their child beyond food, water and shelter.

One time offenses aren't the issue. It's the multiple occurrences that this law is trying to address because a lot of these things are done by the same individuals. Some parents won't be bothered to discipline or manage their kids unless a fire is lit under them.

 

[moonman818]

Some parents won't be bothered to discipline or manage their kids unless a fire is lit under them.

This is it.

 

[tr1ll]

Last week a cop told me about a kid that kept getting arrested. Last time he got arrested, they called the mother, the number was disconnected. They rolled up to the house, it was empty. The mother moved clean out of Texas and left that boy.

Yes hold the parents accountable.

 

[moonman818]

Last week a cop told me about a kid that kept getting arrested. Last time he got arrested, they called the mother, the number was disconnected. They rolled up to the house, it was empty. The mother moved clean out of Texas and left that boy.

Yes hold the parents accountable.

The vast majority of children have parents & guardians, though.

Nothing is perfect, and this is an issue that clearly needs to be tackled from 50 different angles, but I just don't see how holding parents accountable is a bad thing.

 

[HankHill]

Last week a cop told me about a kid that kept getting arrested. Last time he got arrested, they called the mother, the number was disconnected. They rolled up to the house, it was empty. The mother moved clean out of Texas and left that boy.

Yes hold the parents accountable.

"kept getting arrested" -- who did they release the kid to the first few times?

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

Child abandonment is already illegal. So is neglect and abuse. You should enforce those laws without making up new ones.

Put another way: you’ve more or less argues that we should care what’s going on with these kids before they commit crimes …

 

[finessence]

My moms always kept tabs on me. Plenty of times I’ve been punched in the face or chest. I had to be home before the street lights came on. I use to literally slide to my doorstep like Ricky Henderson.

I had the type of mother who would cause a scene. I remember my cousin got arrested once and used my name when we were minors. Moms got a call from either the jail or my dad and she was like “WTF are you talking about? He’s in his room”

I was AFRAID of my mom. A lot of these kids don’t fear or have any respect for their parents. Why? Because parents have gotten soft.

Simple as that. They need to be more hands on with their kids. Some parents don’t even TRY.

For the record, I darn near had perfect attendance all throughout my school years, graduated high school and went to college.

No criminal record. And, I grew up in the ghetto of all ghettos in Fort Lauderdale, FL.

All of my male cousins have criminal records except me. The difference? My moms. My moms ain’t play that mess. Always taught me to be a leader, not a follower

Parents do need to be more hands on.

 

[ahat]

Why? Because parents have gotten soft.

I think some parents are trying to be their kids friend more than keep the parent/child dynamic.

 

[finessence]

I think some parents are trying to be their kids friend more than keep the parent/child dynamic.

Exactly

 

[HankHill]

Child abandonment is already illegal. So is neglect and abuse. You should enforce those laws without making up new ones.

Put another way: you’ve more or less argues that we should care what’s going on with these kids before they commit crimes …

And now now bad parenting will be reprimanded as a preventative measure.

 

[HankHill]

I think some parents are trying to be their kids friend more than keep the parent/child dynamic.

It’s not just that. Some parents honestly resent having kids (too expensive for their circumstances, only parent involved, etc) so they’re not invested much in their well-being. Once they hit 18 the parents sigh in relief since they no longer have that legal obligation.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

So what about the parents that HAVE raised their kids right (without neglect, abandonment, or turning a blind eye to the nonsense) but the kids simply fell victim to the streets?

How would you handle those situations because those happen more than folksbare willing to see/know/admit.

Should Those parents be fined as well?

 

[HankHill]

So what about the parents that HAVE raised their kids right (without neglect, abandonment, or turning a blind eye to the nonsense) but the kids simply fell victim to the streets?

How would you handle those situations because those happen more than folksbare willing to see/know/admit.

Should Those parents be fined as well?

Why would they be fined if they’re not culpable?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Why would they be fined if they’re not culpable?

How would they be able to prove they aren't?

That has been my line of questioning from the jump.