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I never said it didn’t. I just said we need stop blaming hip hop for everything. I guess parents can’t be held accountable.
Like I said, I’ve literally seen parents not monitor what their kids intake via social media and entertainment.
Give them a tablet, phone, and let them do whatever they want without any type of guidance.
I just have always hated the narrative that rap music is the problem in America.
Black folks don't (and never did) control our own image in US media…started way back with Minstrel Shows and continues today.
More than one thing can be true at the same time.
Lyor Cowen said it best. "Who is Dame Dash?"
You don't think an excessive indulgence in violent video games can help desensitize people when it comes to violence? You'd be lying if you don't think excessive violent music won't do the same.The 'hiphop causes ...' arguments sound an awful lot like the old 'videogames cause violence' nonsense.
Every form of media can have some degree of influence but that's where parenting comes in. If anything, I think social media influencers are more likely to have a substantial impact on views or behavior. Someone like Andrew Tate for example. Music, tv or videogames have an extra barrier of being 'entertainment' that an influencer doesn't necessarily have.
He can just push buttons, sit back and be affiliated. I don’t need any commentary from Lyor. He’s irrelevant to me besides cutting checks and marketing. He’s not one of us.
How about we take it back and ask why we have black people in the ghettos that the music came from and how they got there?
I’m surely we don’t have ghettos full of black people in every major city in America right? That can’t be a possibility.
The origins of Hip Hop / Rap had NOTHING to do with what we have today.
People were expressing Love, Peace, Unity, and having fun...
It all changed once the "check writers" showed up.
We live in a world where people blame the entertainers who, instead of the companies who are actually manufacturing guns and ammunition. The engineers, etc.
Mikhail Kalashnikov is seen as a ICON for inventing the AK-47 (which he regretted inventing) but yeah, hip hip is to blame for our ills.
AK-47 inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov regrets creating weapon
Mikhail Kalashnikov, the man who invented the iconic AK-47 automatic rifle, wrote of his regret at creating the weapon.www.abc.net.au
Name ONE gun manufacturer in the hood…. I f*** with Umar but I disagree. Rap has been around 40 years.
Gunplay been going on worldwide for hundreds of years. America had guns before rap, and will ALWAYS be a gun crazed nation.
My mom let me listen to rap as baby, as a youngster. But she ALWAYS taught me about the entertainment industry and the fact that it’s ENTERTAINMENT.
I agree with him about parents not monitoring their kids. Those YouTubers, influencers, podcasters, etc be equally if not WORSE than the musicians.
All social media is a cesspool. A kid can go on any social media network this instant and fine pornographic imagery. Whether it’s Twitter or Facebook. Not to mention all the sexual content on YouTube.
It’s a HUMAN issue. You can’t blame hip hop.
The origins of Hip Hop / Rap had NOTHING to do with what we have today.
People were expressing Love, Peace, Unity, and having fun...
It all changed once the "check writers" showed up.
Yeah it had nothing to do with Ronald Reagan dropping crack in our community’s.
The Nino Brown “ain’t no uzis made in Harlem” line doesn’t fly in court champ. I hear what you are trying to say but as it pertains to US and US only our kids are being mentally destroyed by the music of today.
Rap music is a lot different from when you and I were growing up. Not to mention be it a 2 parent household or a 1 parent household we had parents that were involved in our lives. The parent/parents of today simply aren’t. The music that is being made, produced and marketed to our children is kill this, shot him, and slaughter this person and everyone else in the block. That is what these kids are doing today.
Little white suburban kids listen to drill music too.
Yeah it had nothing to do with Ronald Reagan dropping crack in our community’s.
This is what it has come to……..grown men making EXCUSES………rather EXPLANATIONS…LOL.
Excuses deny responsibility. Explanations allow for responsibility to be acknowledged, and the situation to be explored and understood. Excuses come from feelings of defensiveness that pop up when someone is feeling attacked. Explanations occur when someone wants to be understood.
Poor white men were as invested in slavery and white supremacy as rich white folks. Otherwise, the socioeconomic structure of the South wouldn't have lasted that long.That's where his argument really breaks down the most for me...
Name a time in history when Black Men were a part of "da Patriarchy" in the United States.
The majority of white men aint even part of "da Patriarchy".
"Da Patriarchy" had poor broke white men killing each other so rich folks could screw us all over (Civil War).
You forgot about alcohol too, right? Alcohol has destroyed more families than any drug has and it’s actually PROMOTED.
People look at you crazy if you say you don’t drink…
Heroin and cocaine were here way before crack, people were junkies before hip hop….
Lastly look at the weed usage today.
Poor white men were as invested in slavery and white supremacy as rich white folks. Otherwise, the socioeconomic structure of the South wouldn't have lasted that long.
They had to join southern militias and slave patrols as soon as they turned 18. Enforcing the way of life of the Antebellum South is where the jobs were for poor white southerners, because everything else was done with "free" labor, from cooking, to working the fields, to ranching, to making clothes, and any other potentially wage-generating task you could think of.
Oh I definitely blame the parents…….rather parent. I’m one of the few people that wants to hold the parent responsible and accountable if a child under a certain age commits a felony. Lock up the kid….and the parent as well since they can’t control their child.that ain’t hip hop fault. Blame the parents and FANS who lost sight and champion the ignorant music.
There are other genres of music. No one is putting a gun to peoples head and forcing them to listen to rap. That’s a personal problem. Either be a hands on parents or face the consequences.
Again, the entertainers get blamed more than the fans who actually prefer the violent songs.
You got people who call J.Cole, Wale, etc boring or not street enough… so why waste time trying to please these people?
Eh...you ain't lying however it goes MUCH deeper than that.
My argument isn't that poor white folk wasn't "invested", my argument is that poor white folks didn't have the power to make the rules in the first place.
Once the rules were set by the rich and powerful...
You can check the numbers here:
So, Black kids who live without (money, parental support, safety, etc...) and who didn't make the rules of living in such conditions deserve to be blamed for living by the rules of their environment, but all the folks who lived off the socioeconomic rules of slavery are not deserving of a blanket blame because they didn't make those rules.
It's 2 weights and 2 measures in here...
So, Black kids who live without (money, parental support, safety, etc...) and who didn't make the rules of living in such conditions deserve to be blamed for living by the rules of their environment, but all the folks who lived off the socioeconomic rules of slavery are not deserving of a blanket blame because they didn't make those rules.
It's 2 weights and 2 measures in here...