THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[HIM]

Listening to All That Smoke and hearing Matt Barnes talk about Game 5 vs Houston

They saved their season by benching Harden in an elimination game

 

[P C H]

I don't think the average viewer likes players moving every two to three years either.

Ryen Russillo had Ethan Sherwood Strauss on his podcast to discuss his recent article on ratings: https://theathletic.com/1443125/201...ome-popular-myths-and-looking-for-a-solution/

Listened to this in full this morning that’s where my post came from tbh lol but all those things play a part but I still think if the games mattered people would watch

 

[moonman818]

Cord cutting & load management are the reason for the sharp decline.

Young people are dropping cable at a ridiculous rate... and no one is paying $200 for league pass when you can't even watch your home team and you can stream for free.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Casual fans need to get it together

 

[B Sox]

I think if Zion & Steph didn’t get hurt people would be watching more national TV games.

Meh. Don't really think they are having that big of an effect.

The biggest demographic of NBA fans are cord cutters. That's really all it is.

 

[P C H]

I think cord cutting plays a part for sure. Said it in this thread but the NBA needs a subscription service for sure

not sure the amount of people who are illegally watching games is enough to make a dent. Those aren’t casuals which make up the majority of viewership

 

[everysingletime]

One of the reasons why Giannis is one of the few nba stars I like

 

[pmatic]

Don't even need to stream with Twitter, IG and Youtube available. Just scroll your timeline and you'll get clips moments after they occur in games.

That's enough for most.

 

[P C H]

But IMO even if the league adapts to the cord cutting generation,

they’re still competing with a ton of entities on the streaming / subscription front

the games have to matter to entice people to watch and subscribe

 

[100027]

I’m 100% on board with trashing Harden’s playoff failures, but it’s disingenuous to try and use that to discount his regular season scoring dominance.

 

[lawdog1]

I don’t watch the Magic but will Mo Bamba ever be more than a nice song?

Bamba is starting to show some signs. Had a nice block on LeBron yesterday. He’s been playing more productive minutes lately.

 

[everysingletime]

Zion and Steph's absence absolutely affected national TV ratings. No idea how anyone is arguing otherwise.

 

[atlsfinest]

I think cord cutting plays a part for sure. Said it in this thread but the NBA needs a subscription service for sure

not sure the amount of people who are illegally watching games is enough to make a dent. Those aren’t casuals which make up the majority of viewership

If cord cutting is the issue, then why are NFL ratings up?

 

[alchemist iq]

Robert Morey messed up the china bag....I'm sure the NBA had a strategy to gain viewership over there.

I blame Robert Morey.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Robert Morey messed up china bag....I'm sure the NBA had a strategy to gain viewership over there.

I blame Robert Morey.

This is also true

 

[Moheezy]

We the Sixer delegation kindly ask you to chill

LOL I'm talking style wise. that's all.

 

[everysingletime]

It's pretty simple. A huge amount of national TV games headline pelicans and warriors. But who's going to watch those teams play without Zion and Steph?

Cord cutting, load management and Lebron playing in the west are two other factors you can list as well.

 

[B Sox]

If cord cutting is the issue, then why are NFL ratings up?

Only 16 games and you know they are generally only on Sundays. People are able to devote one day (on the weekend at that) completely to football and can spend the rest of the week doing whatever they want. Essentially makes it appointment viewing.

People are more so fans of actual teams in the NFL whereas people seem to be a bit more focused on the players themselves in NBA.

Apples and oranges.

 

[P C H]

If cord cutting is the issue, then why are NFL ratings up?

lamar Jackson,Patrick, NFL’s stars are playing in a must watch weekly climate due to the scarcity of games

this goes back to my point. Cord cutting plays a part, but the value of individual games is the culprit. People will watch games that matter

 

[N41D]

Read a good piece abt the NBA’s rating issue and cord cutting general apathy LeBron going to la all play a part

but IMO the 82 game bubble has simply burst

the league has to find a way to make the games matter. Shorten the season or incentivize the midseason tourney in a way that has chip ramifications. People watch important games.

everything from commentary, to minutes managing, everything is geared towards the postseason, which has reached a tipping point with the consumer

All of this is dead on... Season's too long. Game availability is brutal if you've cut the cord. League pass is fine, but no casual fan is buying it. Highlights of games are too readily available - there's a lot of nights I'd rather not sit down and watch anything start-to-finish and just skim highlights before I go to bed. And I follow the league religiously.

People want to make player movement a racial thing and being against players controlling their career paths, but frankly, yeah, it's an issue. Does the average tune in every few games or a couple nights a week to just my local team fan want to learn new players, new names, etc every year? It's easier to just not tune in. Problem is, that cat's been let out the bag and you're probably not going to be able to reign that back in - so gotta find other ways.

The NBA ain't going to live off dudes like us that follow and pick apart every move or potential move.

League's in a weird place right now. Probably the most popular league/sport worldwide, but ratings/numbers are dropping. Gotta get creative.

 

[B Sox]

The East Coast drives viewership and there are some issues that have nothing to do with load management...

- The biggest market, New York, has 2 teams, but the most popular one is awful, and the other is missing arguably the best player in the league on top of Kyrie being hurt.
- The second biggest market, Boston, has a team that kind of resembles the Pistons of the 00s, where they are winning a lot of games, but don't really have a bonafide superstar that would make them appointment viewing.
- Philly is very good, but don't necessarily play a style that is aesthetically pleasing.
- The best player in the East is in one of the smallest markets in the league. That didn't matter for Bron in CLE, but he was also a much bigger "commercial star" than Giannis.
- The two best teams in the West thus far, and two of the best in the league in general, are both in LA and they have a ton of games starting at 10 or later. A lot of folks on the East Coast simply aren't staying up for it.
- The biggest name in the league, Bron, is no longer in the East, and now plays for a team that has the biggest fanbase in the world who would have watched their games whether he was there or not.

Cord cutting is still the biggest issue at hand though, IMO.

 

[addict4sneakers]

The East Coast drives viewership and there are some issues that have nothing to do with injuries or load management...

- The biggest market, New York, has 2 teams, but the most popular one is awful, and the other is missing arguably the best player in the league on top of Kyrie missing a bunch of games.
- The second biggest market, Boston, has a team that kind of resembles the Pistons of the 00s, where they are winning a lot of games, but don't really have a bonafide superstar that would make them appointment viewing.
- Philly is very good, but don't necessarily play a style that is aesthetically pleasing.
- The best player in the East is in one of the smallest markets in the league. That didn't matter for Bron in CLE, but he was also a much bigger "commercial star" than Giannis.
- The two best teams in the West thus far, and two of the best in the league in general, are both in LA and they have a ton of games starting at 10 or later. A lot of folks on the East Coast simply aren't staying up for it.
- The biggest name in the league, Bron, is no longer in the East, and now plays for a team that has the biggest fanbase in the world who would have watched their games whether he was there or not.

- East coast dudes claim laker allegiance

 

[B Sox]

Of all the injuries, the situation in Brooklyn is the one that I think is the most impactful to the league viewership-wise.

 

[Peep Game]

Just up to the 3rd quarter of the 1982 ECF, but so far I haven’t seen any of those fist fights that supposedly happened during every possession in this era, I’ll be on the lookout for them though

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Kangz in 8th

addict4teams at it again