The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Night

[finessence]

Also, as an extension of that we have started to rewrite history by claiming Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford should be hall of famers. Been hearing that more and more as of late, he'll damn Sam Cassell said it on the Knucklheads Podcast.

Again, I love Jamal Crawford but just stop man.

You don't believe what you are typing.

Seattle Sports HOF, sure.



Nothing further.

Love J-Crossover but dude literally has NO defensive highlights whatsoever.

Ginobili has a 6+ minute defensive highlight reel alone.

Jamal was to athletic to be such a terrible defender

 

[IATT]

While true, the issue is there is a culture within the basketball community where constant generation disrespect takes place.

It happens in both directions but it's really sad.

Are NFL/MLB/NHL fans as disrespectful to their past?

NFL fans get context.. like DBs and LBs were able to take dudes heads off over the middle or on deep passes

But a guy like Reggie white would be a whole other level in the league today because you’d use him at basically any spot along the line.. or a guy like rod woodson is the perfect DB prospect for today’s league with his size and speed and versatility (people forget he was the safety on the 2000 ravens)

But also gotta think what WRs from back in the day would have been like in the current rules and also with the bigger emphasis on the passing game

But it’s the same thing with jordan and not having hand checking.. but it seems certain folks are overly invested in removing logic

 

[finessence]

Do ****** these days think Kobe Bryant, AI etc started playing basketball in 2010? Because it really seems that way

Rod Strickland, Kevin Johnson, Derrick Coleman, etc. DIRK. Tim Duncan…. OLAJUWON, David Robinson… dudes just shameful

 

[picasso swerve]

Again you’re not the one to determine what’s a meaningful game to him. Man lost all his juice due to injury, lost his sister. Garbage time minutes mean something to him. 8 minutes of being a piece of what he was means something to him. Let him cook.

????

So I cant determine whats a meaningful game to him yet youre literally determining whats a meaningful game to him?

 

[JMB10215]

OG's that bring up lack of hand checking now but downplay illegal defense are insane to me. Cant have it both ways

 

[finessence]

NFL fans get context.. like DBs and LBs were able to take dudes heads off over the middle or on deep passes

But a guy like Reggie white would be a whole other level in the league today because you’d use him at basically any spot along the line.. or a guy like rod woodson is the perfect DB prospect for today’s league with his size and speed and versatility (people forget he was the safety on the 2000 ravens)

But also gotta think what WRs from back of the day would have been like in the current rules and also with the bigger emphasis on the passing game

But it’s the same thing with jordan and not having hand checking.. but it seems certain folks are overly invested in removing logic

In the past, 4,000 and 5,000 passing yard seasons were rare as hell in the NFL. It’s a common occurrence now

You’ve got mediocre QBs throwing for 4,000. Jameis Winston had a 5,000 yard passing season

Just like the NBA, modern day NFL is geared towards offense.

That’s why you can’t compare eras. BUT, certain players transcend eras. That’s all we be trying to say.

Deion, Jordan, Wilt, Magic, LeBron, etc they are TRANSCENDENT talents, they could play in any era.

We aren’t talking about dudes like Mark Madsen or Dahntay Jones

I always tell people, NFL passing numbers have gone up tremendously… but interception numbers have gone down. That right there tells you how much rules have changed.

QBs were throwing 20,30 and 40+ interceptions back in the day

 

[nick.]

I love me some Ant but we have:

Jaylen Brown who can’t go left (just like Clyde Drexler),

Ben Simmons literally can’t shoot… Gobert is a giraffe on ice…

PJ Tucker

Giannis’ brother

Tons of modern players with absolutely no skills

- Brown is All-NBA & Finals MVP
- Simmons was All-NBA & All-Defense before the injuries
- Gobert is All-Defense & 4x DPOY
- Tucker is going on his 14th NBA season; career 36% 3PT shooter with above average defense

Got nothing for Thanasis

 

[frshstunna]

This is an all-time fumble

The Wizards are cursed, they need another name change and total re brand

Luckily the universe kept em in DC instead of that stupid VA move else that woulda definitely been the final nail in their coffin

 

[finessence]

- Brown is All-NBA & Finals MVP
- Simmons was All-NBA & All-Defense before the injuries
- Gobert is All-Defense & 4x DPOY
- Tucker is going on his 14th NBA season; career 36% 3PT shooter with above average defense

Got nothing for Thanasis

You made my point. All these guys have skillsets that are on-par with guys from the Jordan era. Late 70s, 80s, 90s…

Ant just trying to stir up stuff

Gobert would be a bench player in that era. He’s not highly skilled. Ben Simmons’ skills were always vastly overrated.

PJ Tucker had to go overseas for 5+ years after he left U of Texas.

Jaylen is the most supreme talent out the bunch and he still has deficiencies

 

[WASHED KING]

Ant is right and yall know it.

Name the best players from Jordans era. Jordan was a modern player in a dinosaur league. Put MJ in today's NBA he's Demar Derozan.

 

[wavycrocket]

Also, as an extension of that we have started to rewrite history by claiming Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford should be hall of famers. Been hearing that more and more as of late, he'll damn Sam Cassell said it on the Knucklheads Podcast.

Again, I love Jamal Crawford but just stop man.

You don't believe what you are typing.

Seattle Sports HOF, sure.



Nothing further.

Jalen trying to work his way into there too…I see the fab 5, MIP angle + contributions to basketball & podcasting (which he’s EARLY on)

 

[lawdog1]

Ant gonna Ant, but he keeps adding to the list of stuff people are going to throw back at him when the Patootie privilege has worn off some and he still hasn’t been past the 2nd round of the playoffs.

 

[JMB10215]

Ant is right and yall know it.

Name the best players from Jordans era. Jordan was a modern player in a dinosaur league. Put MJ in today's NBA he's Demar Derozan.

I was with you...then you took it too far lol. Don't compare slow footed *** Demar to the black cat lol

 

[frshstunna]

Gobert would be a bench player in that era. He’s not highly skilled. Ben Simmons’ skills were always vastly overrated.

Gobert woulda been fine in the 80’s - early 00’s …Look up some of the dudes that started and got contracts back then like Adonal Foyle, Dampier and Ostertag

 

[elpablo21]

Gobert woulda been fine in the 80’s - early 00’s …Look up some of the dudes that started and got contracts back then like Adonal Foyle, Dampier and Ostertag

and telling a defensive 7 footer they don't have to defend in space and on the perimeter as much would probably be net positive is my guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Nike Jordan]

Football is waaaay older than basketball.

American football is only 22 years older than basketball.

 

[Nike Jordan]

The Wizards are cursed

The curse of terrible ownership.

 

[nick.]

Gobert woulda been fine in the 80’s - early 00’s …Look up some of the dudes that started and got contracts back then like Adonal Foyle, Dampier and Ostertag

Todd MacCulloch started Finals games but Gobert wouldn't be able to get minutes

 

[wavycrocket]

Gobert & Mutumbo are very similar. People also act like Mutumbo wasn’t DPOY, and got cooked by Shaq. But Gobert gets clowned for Jokic and Luka dogging him in the playoffs

Now the Olympic stuff was craaaaazyyyyy…but let’s not do that right na

 

[wavycrocket]

Is Ben Simmons going to play this year?

 

[frshstunna]

Is Ben Simmons going to play this year?

He’s getting paid so he’ll show up for a bit, get hurt/mental breakdown and shut it down to collect the check

 

[datznasty]

Is Ben Simmons going to play this year?

nah, but he is releasing his "in the gym, haters gon' pay" photos this last week or so.

 

[WASHED KING]

Ant gonna Ant, but he keeps adding to the list of stuff people are going to throw back at him when the Patootie privilege has worn off some and he still hasn’t been past the 2nd round of the playoffs.

AE1 > Jordan 1

 

[wavycrocket]

He’s getting paid so he’ll show up for a bit, get hurt/mental breakdown and shut it down to collect the check

I seen he been competitive fishing. That might be his calling.

Just downloaded a fishing game on PS5.

Send y’all gamer tags (srs )

 

[addict4sneakers]

????

So I cant determine whats a meaningful game to him yet youre literally determining whats a meaningful game to him?