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Also Point Guard defense is kinda irrelevant. They are always the weakest link due to size, and most of the times the ones that actually do impact defensively are specialist. GP being an exception.
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Defense wasn’t remotely important but GP and Kidd both somehow eventually won rings…
Dirk won a ring without Nash eventually
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… and Trae’s defense is equally bad.
What’s the point of being a great offense… when you’re lack of defense cancels it out
Nash accounting for 40-50 while giving up 25+ points to whoever he was guarding
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People forget J-Kidd almost beat out Duncan for MVP in 2003. His first season with the Nets. He also was responsible for 30-40+ points a game.
Nash, Stockton, Trae Young and Russell Westbrook are the same player. Volume guys with no defense
Nash, Stockton, Trae Young and Russell Westbrook are the same player. Volume guys with no defense
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Im just saying a great coach and great scheme can hide a Point Guard on defense and win championships. Warriors have done it for years. However being a great offensive cog is vital to be a elite point guard. I see where your coming from, I just think you are over valuing defense. A lot of the top point guards of all time were not lockdown defenders. Most guards that are lockdown are back ups… and Trae’s defense is equally bad.
What’s the point of being a great offense… when you’re lack of defense cancels it out
Nash accounting for 40-50 while giving up 25+ points to whoever he was guarding
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Nash NEVER scored over 20 a season, you don’t even know basketball if you left Isaiah Thomas out as one of the best scoring PGs. Chris Paul also.
Steve Nash don’t belong in the same conversation as Magic or Oscar
Gary Payton scored 20+ points 5+ times in his career
1. Lol who cares?
Nash's team put up literally the most efficient offense in the history of basketball, they lost their second best player and did it again with Nash running the show.
Scoring 20ppg is an arbitrary number, if you played Nash for the pass he could turn it up as an individual scorer.
2. I said best offensive PG's I didn't say "best individual scoring PGs"
Basketball is about the team scoring not one guy scoring.
What about his DEFENSE
He's a PG, it's just not that big of a deal. Suns had league average defense without playing a center real center.
Nash was fine, he's smart, know where to be, takes charges. You could hide him easily.
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There was no HIDING Steve Nash
Isaiah Thomas, GP and Kidd all got rings
Trae Young, and Westbrook probably won’t win rings, just like Nash and Stockton
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Also Nash is about 5 million times better than Trae Young on defense.
Trae Young doesn't even try.
Trae Young doesn't even try.
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Team defense is way more important than individual defense anyway
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There was no HIDING Steve Nash
You can keep adding emojis it doesn't make your argument anymore convincing.
If Nash was so bad how did they have a league average defense with no center?
If Nash was really so horrible surely the defense should be worse playing Amar'e at Center.
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Destroyed. Every time.
Nobody cares about your team average 120ppg…. But giving up 110+ on defense
Nobody cares about your team average 120ppg…. But giving up 110+ on defense
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Celtics just won the championship averaging 120ppg and giving up 110ppg.
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Nash so great and couldn't even get to the Finals.
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They played small ball but still had a number of 6’10”+ guys. They had Shaq and Shawn Marks. Even though off the bench.
This notion that PHX only had guys 6’8” and under is false. They had a number of bench players in the 6’10”, 6’11” range
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Did 2005-2011 Phoenix do it though…?
Difference is Celtics have Jrue Holiday, PHX had Nash
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Only 2 teams go to the finals every year. Every elite pg teams are looking for today literally have Nash skillset. Defense be dammed. He could create for others at a high level. And won plenty of games in both of his MVP seasons. D'antoni's system only works if your a elite creator i.e Nash or Harden
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The Suns were lacking a elite shot making wing. Marion wasnt enough.
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yikes
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Team defense is still more important.
You can win with a PG where the other team would attack. Happened with Kyrie, Curry, Tony Parker, etc.
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I don’t hear anyone from this generation saying they modeled their game after Steve Nash
None of these guys ever acknowledge Nash
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All of these ****** eat off Nash's plate, whether they realize it is irrelevantI don’t hear anyone from this generation saying they modeled their game after Steve Nash
None of these guys ever acknowledge Nash
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Pat Bev getting deep in his bag lol
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There’s a big difference between Tyson Chandler Shawn Bradley. Big difference between 25 year old Dirk and 32 year old Dirk but keep cookingMans left Dallas and Dirk eventually won a ring without him
