[[....<> The Official Kanye Omari West Thread <>....]] vol. GOOD Music album.

[Gordonson]

Son, you stay blaming G.O.O.D Friday for your lack of self-control too

Talking bout, "Ye put out most of the album already" like it wasn't only 3 songs, and 1 of them wasn't highly unfinished (DIAND).

Any other song you heard was leaked by an outside source, and you listened to at your own will

.

 

[cragmatic]

How are you gonna say DIAND was highly unfinished? Other than Ross's part we heard the whole thing.... and Ross's part is highly skippable.

Sure the breakdown is nice, but Ye added nothing to the track other than this.


Oh and other than the 3 GOOD Friday tracks, Power and Runaway were singles. And the Runaway film that was released a month ago played the most of Dark Fantasy. So thats 6/11 songs that were heard NOT due to songs leaking.

I'm just trying to hold 'Ye to his word, because what's a man without his word?

 

[Gordonson]

It was highly unfinished though, because if that whole minute and a half guitar solo breakdown wasn't a huge addition combined with Ross's verse (regardless of how you feel about it), I don't know what is.
I see your point when you break it down like that though (Forgot about everything else except G.O.O.D Friday).

But true, a man is nothing without his word. Just give dude some time though, he'll be back with more songs 

 

[i am nas]

you guys should exchange numbers...

 

[Gordonson]

Originally Posted by I AM NAS

you guys should exchange numbers...

Naw, we're done fam.

 

[jiggaman414]

 

[kvsm23vs24]

Originally Posted by I AM NAS

you guys should exchange numbers...

*Dead*

 

[spidermachine916]

i like this album, it's very good, i had it on repeat for the last 2 hours or so... one thing i don't like is the "all of the lights interlude" i think it should have just been blend with it's track, instead of it being a separate track
-i'm just saying...

 

[nikekidwonder]

Originally Posted by Spidermachine916

i like this album, it's very good, i had it on repeat for the last 2 hours or so... one thing i don't like is the "all of the lights interlude" i think it should have just been blend with it's track, instead of it being a separate track
-i'm just saying...

nah the track would be to long 

 

[CUNNiNGH4M]

Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder

Originally Posted by Spidermachine916

i like this album, it's very good, i had it on repeat for the last 2 hours or so... one thing i don't like is the "all of the lights interlude" i think it should have just been blend with it's track, instead of it being a separate track
-i'm just saying...

nah the track would be to long 

that would only be 6:02 which is still shorter than 5 songs on the album... runaway is 9 freaking minutes...

 

[Hahahaha]

Originally Posted by Spidermachine916

one thing i don't like is the "all of the lights interlude" i think it should have just been blended with it's track, instead of it being a separate track

Agreed

 

[dipsetgeneral]

"All of the Lights (Interlude)"

 

[marv machamp]

I love how after All The Lights goes off the first thing on Monster is "I shoot the lights out"

I know, I'm probably late.

 

[kicksboywonder]

Just copped it yesterday & ready to give it a listen

 

[mosthated770]

Originally Posted by MOSTHATED770

can someone give me a list of songs that were supposto be on the album that werent released at good friday tracks that i might have missed out on?i didnt listen to any of the snippets/leaked tracks...

 

[copp 2 of em]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

"All of the Lights (Interlude)"

Listening to the Interlude is imperative before listening to the actual song. 

 

[scotthallwithapick]

A Good Review I Read

---

Lots of people have been asking for intelligent reasons why this album is so good. I think this is one of the biggest pitfalls for hip-hop fans to fall into, and to be fair it’s understandable. Although it has come a long way, hip-hop still has skeptical (at best) credibility amongst many music aficionados. I think it stems from several reasons…a general misunderstanding of the genre, the fact that critiques of other genres are not easily transferable to hip-hop, underlying racist thoughts, underlying elitism and also the fact that many of the genres most heralded ARE undereducated and unsophisticated. I think hip-hop fans are hyper-aware of these misunderstandings and prejudices (however subtle) against a genre that they are so head over heels in love with and therefore are always trying to find educated and intellectual reasons to back up why they are so affected by the music.

Point blank, however…just like any other genre of music, at the end of the day if it manages to encapsulate a profound emotional response from you, then it’s good music. Period.

By those standards, Kanye’s album has affected me more so than any other release this year. For an album that is so outlandishly larger than life, many of my favorite moments are decidedly subtle (when the beat is tweaked slightly on the second verse of Dark Fantasy and manages to turn from filthy to epically beautifully, when the piano comes in towards the end of Power, making this bravado based track suddenly vulnerable, etc). Blame Game (Chris Rock rant and all) is another favorite of mine because despite the swearing and the sexual content, it manages to be this subtly beautiful and tender song. It is chock full of self-reflection. And my personal choice for the piece de resistance of the album has to be Lost in The World/Who Will Survive in America…I think it is mind-numbingly beautiful in its simplicity and I cannot think of a more moving end to a hip-hop album.

Lyrically? First, my biggest pet peeve is when people insist that lyrics have to be nothing short of literary genius for a rap song to be considered worthwhile. What other genre is this true of? Can we really say that this is the gold standard for the rest of the music industry? Certainly not. At the end of the day, most tend to judge the lyrics by the emotional intensity and authenticity that lie behind them. What comes down to it is that Kanye’s lyrics are hit or miss, but more importantly you are seeing the true picture of how his internal monologue works. Kanye is clearly full of both ego and insecurity, and on top of that is painfully self-aware of both. Through his lyrics on this album I think we are getting an authentic view into how his mind works, and (to me at least) it is nothing short of fascinating.

In terms of the guest artists, for somebody who is so egotistical, what I have always appreciated about Kanye is his ability to let others shine and, in some cases, steal the show. +%%*, I’m in love with him solely for the fact that he has elevated Pusha T to a more mainstream audience. The fact that he has generic pop-stars like Rihanna, FERGIE (!?!), Rick Ross and Nicki Minaj (although I find her quirkily endearing on just about everything she does, I admit I’m in the minority here) sounding fresh and relevant is a feat unto itself. Like many of hip-hop’s best albums, it is a beautiful collaboration of so many different voices and individuals, and I think the album’s success in combining all these different personalities so seamlessly takes it to an epic level.

At the end of the day, while listening to this CD I went through such a dizzying range of emotions. Blame Game and Lost in the World took me to vulnerable and self-reflective places, So Appalled was a fantastic outlet for frustrations I have in my life, and quite frankly Power and My Dark Fantasy took me to these places of ego mixed with self-reflection and a feeling of being in an epic moment that I can’t really even begin to describe it with words.

As much as I think Kanye is a frustrating human being, this album blew me away sonically and emotionally. Why do we need to be able to deconstruct each song and give you the intellectual reasons why we love it? At the end of the day, it worked for me like few other hip-hop albums ever have. Your mileage may vary on all these points of course.

 

[pump fake]

Loving the beats on this. Musically speaking its very nice. Lyrically its weak. That's how I feel about it after listening to it a few times. Definitely over hyped on NT and it is in no way touching LR or CD. Just my opinion. 

 

[illfrozn]

Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

A Good Review I Read

---

Lots of people have been asking for intelligent reasons why this album is so good. I think this is one of the biggest pitfalls for hip-hop fans to fall into, and to be fair it’s understandable. Although it has come a long way, hip-hop still has skeptical (at best) credibility amongst many music aficionados. I think it stems from several reasons…a general misunderstanding of the genre, the fact that critiques of other genres are not easily transferable to hip-hop, underlying racist thoughts, underlying elitism and also the fact that many of the genres most heralded ARE undereducated and unsophisticated. I think hip-hop fans are hyper-aware of these misunderstandings and prejudices (however subtle) against a genre that they are so head over heels in love with and therefore are always trying to find educated and intellectual reasons to back up why they are so affected by the music.

Point blank, however…just like any other genre of music, at the end of the day if it manages to encapsulate a profound emotional response from you, then it’s good music. Period.

By those standards, Kanye’s album has affected me more so than any other release this year. For an album that is so outlandishly larger than life, many of my favorite moments are decidedly subtle (when the beat is tweaked slightly on the second verse of Dark Fantasy and manages to turn from filthy to epically beautifully, when the piano comes in towards the end of Power, making this bravado based track suddenly vulnerable, etc). Blame Game (Chris Rock rant and all) is another favorite of mine because despite the swearing and the sexual content, it manages to be this subtly beautiful and tender song. It is chock full of self-reflection. And my personal choice for the piece de resistance of the album has to be Lost in The World/Who Will Survive in America…I think it is mind-numbingly beautiful in its simplicity and I cannot think of a more moving end to a hip-hop album.

Lyrically? First, my biggest pet peeve is when people insist that lyrics have to be nothing short of literary genius for a rap song to be considered worthwhile. What other genre is this true of? Can we really say that this is the gold standard for the rest of the music industry? Certainly not. At the end of the day, most tend to judge the lyrics by the emotional intensity and authenticity that lie behind them. What comes down to it is that Kanye’s lyrics are hit or miss, but more importantly you are seeing the true picture of how his internal monologue works. Kanye is clearly full of both ego and insecurity, and on top of that is painfully self-aware of both. Through his lyrics on this album I think we are getting an authentic view into how his mind works, and (to me at least) it is nothing short of fascinating.

In terms of the guest artists, for somebody who is so egotistical, what I have always appreciated about Kanye is his ability to let others shine and, in some cases, steal the show. +%%*, I’m in love with him solely for the fact that he has elevated Pusha T to a more mainstream audience. The fact that he has generic pop-stars like Rihanna, FERGIE (!?!), Rick Ross and Nicki Minaj (although I find her quirkily endearing on just about everything she does, I admit I’m in the minority here) sounding fresh and relevant is a feat unto itself. Like many of hip-hop’s best albums, it is a beautiful collaboration of so many different voices and individuals, and I think the album’s success in combining all these different personalities so seamlessly takes it to an epic level.

At the end of the day, while listening to this CD I went through such a dizzying range of emotions. Blame Game and Lost in the World took me to vulnerable and self-reflective places, So Appalled was a fantastic outlet for frustrations I have in my life, and quite frankly Power and My Dark Fantasy took me to these places of ego mixed with self-reflection and a feeling of being in an epic moment that I can’t really even begin to describe it with words.

As much as I think Kanye is a frustrating human being, this album blew me away sonically and emotionally. Why do we need to be able to deconstruct each song and give you the intellectual reasons why we love it? At the end of the day, it worked for me like few other hip-hop albums ever have. Your mileage may vary on all these points of course.

1. First of all, that's not true. Secondly, what genre is just as lyric oriented as hip-hop??? There is no other genre as focused on that, so that's a silly point to make.
2. Hip-hop's best albums include many different individuals and voices??? Uh.....what?! Since when is that something to reach towards??? These days, it's not.
3. Really, dude? Really? To each his own, but that's what "So Appalled" gave you?
4. Did an NTer write this??

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by illfrozn

1. First of all, that's not true. Secondly, what genre is just as lyric oriented as hip-hop??? There is no other genre as focused on that, so that's a silly point to make.
2. Hip-hop's best albums include many different individuals and voices??? Uh.....what?! Since when is that something to reach towards??? These days, it's not.
3. Really, dude? Really? To each his own, but that's what "So Appalled" gave you?
4. Did an NTer write this??

"Why do we need to be able to deconstruct each song and give you the intellectual reasons why we love it? At the end of the day, it worked for me like few other hip-hop albums ever have. Your mileage may vary on all these points of course."

In case you missed it

 

[nucky thompson]

You Kanye fans make me laugh.

 

[pump fake]

^ LOL. I don't know its just that sometimes, I feel like he's talking about nothing. Rap has a lot of that talking about nothing, but that's what made Kanye special before, he didn't really do that. This album was just a song that's ridiculously long but only has two short verses, etc. There were a lot of two short verses and then the rest of the song was just changing up the beat, showcasing the production.

Not enough lyrical content for me

 

[philly5fan]

Definitely think he should have took "So Appalled" off and put "Christian Dior Denim flow" on there

Other than that Id have to say All of the Lights and Hell of a Life are my fav tracks so far

 

[deletedelete]

not feelin this... only thing that's kinda interesting is the allusion to iron man in "hell of a life" and the gil scott heron in 'who will survive in america'

 

[cragmatic]

I wont even say anything this week

*Plays The Joy*