The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- Cannonier, Imavov, Reyes, Rosas on NOW

[OTG]

damn ellenberger used to be my boy.. ever since the kampmann loss he's fallen off a ******* cliff.

 

[smedroc]

Just saw a good point on the underground.

Apparently the UFC is trying to implement an IV ban from October which means dudes can't rehydrate intravenously after cutting weight. From what i've heard they are doing this to try and stamp out blood doping.

A ton of dudes will be diminished on fight night if they remain in the same weight class with the new ruling. Especially dudes who are big for their division like Conor.

 

[denni5themenace]

OOPS

my fault. i'm not a regular in here and only come in from time to time.

 

[RustyShackleford]

^^^^

Please remove that gif brah. Not trying to see the thread locked.

 

[carver]

My mans just completely ignored the thread title

Them kicks def did work tho

 

[DCAllAfrican]

conor mcgregor: Notorious
All 9 Episodes

 http://www.dailymotion.com/user/cregorman89/1

Review-A-Wai - "The Notorious" Conor McGregor Documentary - Fight Network http://fightnetwork.com/news/57721:review-a-wai-the-notorious-conor-mcgregor-documentary/

 

[denni5themenace]

edited. totally didn't read beyond "MMA" in the thread title.

sorry didnt mean to attempt to get this thread locked. any reason as to why no images or gifs allowed? copyright?

 

[spiderjericho]

conor mcgregor: Notorious

All 9 Episodes



 http://www.dailymotion.com/user/cregorman89/1







Review-A-Wai - "The Notorious" Conor McGregor Documentary - Fight Network http://fightnetwork.com/news/57721:review-a-wai-the-notorious-conor-mcgregor-documentary/

Props. I watched the series last week and then listened to that review.

:x

UFC salaries are ******* pathetic

In their defense, they don't really advertise what the fighters might make on the back end. Trust me, Connor just didn't make $500K.

Having said that, it's no secret that the UFC doesn't really pay very well besides the bonuses and to the champions and higher draws.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

card was insane....

ruthless muther******* lawler stole the show

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Luke Thomas says UFC 189 main card was the best ever 

 

[blackcease]

In their defense, they don't really advertise what the fighters might make on the back end. Trust me, Connor just didn't make $500K.

Having said that, it's no secret that the UFC doesn't really pay very well besides the bonuses and to the champions and higher draws.

See that backstage bonus **** annoys me when talking fighter pay because there's no real numbers and it's too easy for Dana and Co to pretend guys are getting paid wayyyy more than the disclosed salary when in actuality they might not. I'm too lazy to look it up, but there's actually a recent interview with Koscheck where he's saying he stepped up a bunch on short notice fights and got jerked with some miniscule "bonus".

I'm sure people like Conor and Ronda and whoever else Dana is currently d-riding get taken care of but I highly doubt most of these fighters are getting considerable bonuses, definitely not enough that they're getting paid what they're worth. All the behind the scenes "bonuses" are just elaborate ways to avoid fully disclosing what fighters make and in turn avoiding the pressure to pay these dudes what they're worth up front. They really, really, really need a union. It's pathetic to see a dude like Rory go that hard for that salary when you know Dana and the Fertittas are making milions in profits every show, makes it hard to support the product to be honest.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Just for kicks and giggles, what do you all think are fair tiers for pay?

For example, how about a guy like Rory who is consistently a top contender?

This strictly based off their fight skills/contendership and not PPV attractiveness. That's a whole other discussion

Rory got 59K for the record

 

[blackcease]

Considering these guys training camps and managers probably run them somewhere from 15-25% of their pay, then taxes on top of that, 59k is not acceptable. Around 150-200k should be the minimum for a top contender like him, and more than that if he was a major draw.

 

[justscrap]

Conor and Jose are going to have about 30 face offs and stare downs before they fight each other

 

[spiderjericho]

Luke Thomas says UFC 189 main card was the best ever 

I'm actually watching his Monday podcast right now. He's a fan of Connor's standup but just like others think he needs to train with more wrestlers. He blames the team.

I've heard some call 189 the best card since 116 (which I would definitely agree with).

As far as pay goes, we'd have to look at what the UFC's TV contract is, annual profits from PPVs, gates, merchandise, fightpass, sponsorship agreements, etc.

I agree that Rory going all out, sustaining a broken nose and foot and "only" getting 59K is criminal. Between the camps, the weight cut, the media, no longer having sponsorship freedom during a fight, the fight, injuries, it just doesn't seem like it's compelling to be a MMA fighter. Probably why Brock opted to remain in the WWE instead of coming back (he did a mini fight camp prior to his WWE contract expiring).

 

[illphillip]

Rory making 59k is nuts. Especially when you look at this....

The Ultimate Fighter 21 Finale Fighter Salaries

Stephen Thompson: $42,000 (includes $21,000 win bonus)
def. Jake Ellenberger: $73,000

Jorge Masvidal: $102,000 (includes $51,000 win bonus)
def. Cezar Ferreira: $20,000

Ellenberger makes 73k to show?

Jorge my dude, and I'm glad he's getting his paper. But crazy that he gets 51k to show for a fight vs. a new jack and Rory gets 59k for a title fight against a monster.

 

[keko jones]

Have you guys notice that the PBS networks are pushing boxing pretty hard lately. I hope it continues ...

 

[illphillip]

Have you guys notice that the PBS networks are pushing boxing pretty hard lately. I hope it continues ...

Smart. They needed to build new stars outside of PPV+Premium cable channels.

 

[keko jones]

Well, they are only developing figures for the uneducated viewer which I appreciate.

I like MMA but these dudes really risking their lives for peanuts.

 

[daprescription]

And then they take away sponsors.
People think that being a champ means much, but Cain and Benson weren't making big $$ when they were champs.

 

[QU!K]

Connor made 10x more and he's been in UFC for way shorter. He put's in work woth the talking though, and gets what he deserves

 

[dman14]

conor getting a few M's on top of that. all that traveling and promoting paid off
interested to see if this surpassed ufc100 in ppv buys

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ies-revealed-mcgregor-mendes-each-pocket-500k

UFC 189 Salaries Revealed: McGregor, Mendes Each Pocket $500k
By Hunter Homistek , Featured Columnist Jul 13, 2015

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UFC 189 Salaries Revealed: McGregor, Mendes Each Pocket $500k
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Conor McGregor can stock up on more alligator-skin dress shoes after his UFC 189 victory over Chad Mendes.

According to a release from the Nevada State Athletic Commission obtained by the MMA Report, both McGregor and Mendes made $500,000 for their roles in Saturday's main event.

For those into math and big numbers, that means they were each making $3 million per hour (the fight lasted almost exactly 10 minutes).

Here's the full breakdown:

Conor McGregor: $500,000 (no win bonus)
Chad Mendes: $500,000
Robbie Lawler: $300,000 (includes $150,000 win bonus)
Rory MacDonald: $59,000
Jeremy Stephens: $72,000 (includes $40,000 win bonus)
Dennis Bermudez: $34,000
Gunnar Nelson: $58,000 (includes $29,000 win bonus)
Brandon Thatch: $22,000
Thomas Almeida: $24,000 (includes $12,000 win bonus)
Brad Pickett: $30,000
Matt Brown: $92,000 (includes $46,000 win bonus)
Tim Means: $23,000
Alex Garcia: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
Mike Swick: $48,000
John Howard: $42,000 (includes $21,000 win bonus)
Cathal Pendred: $10,000
Cody Garbrandt: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
Henry Briones: $10,000
Louis Smolka: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
Neil Seery: $15,000
Cody Pfister: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
Yosdenis Cedeno: $13,000

Most notably, Jeremy Stephens was fined $8,000 for missing weight, but he made up for that misstep by netting a $40,000 win bonus with a ferocious flying-knee knockout in Round 3 of his main card tilt against Dennis Bermudez. The $8,000 he lost went to his opponent, a small consolation prize for getting flattened in highlight-reel fashion.

Mike Swick also out-earned his opponent, Alex Garcia, $48,000 to $30,000, despite losing the fight.

Swick had not fought since December of 2012 prior to his UFC 189 appearance, but he had performed under the Zuffa banner 17 times prior, three in the WEC and 14 inside the UFC Octagon. It may look strange at first glance to see a fighter make less than his opponent even with a win bonus, but Swick has earned his keep with a long, steady, problem-free career.

As a final housekeeping note, MMA writer Mike Chiappetta reported on Twitter that McGregor will also see an additional $3 to 4 million through PPV points.

While that sounds like a solid chunk of change on first read—and don't get me wrong, it is—it's still a small, small percentage of what the UFC itself stands to make from the event.

Banking a couple million dollars is never a bad thing, but if we're looking at percentages, the gate alone for UFC 189 was reported at $7.2 million. UFC President Dana White is also feeling froggy about the PPV buys, saying in a post-fight presser that the event could pull seven digits.

That's $50 million in PPV buys if everyone bought the standard definition format (and spoiler alert: there were surely a ton of high-definition buys). All things considered, McGregor can't be mad about his pull, but in a strange sense, it feels underwhelming when you really examine the payout.

 

[illphillip]

Lawler, a champ in his 3rd title fight, made 150k base.

Conor, in his first title fight, made 500k.

I'm not saying Conor doesn't deserve the 5, but they doing some of these other dudes DIRTY.

 

[shogun]

BRUH...Rory gave his livelihood away for 59k base salary...im out.

Yup. That amount is a joke. Didn't know he broke his foot. The damage he took to his nose was nasty.

 

[phillyzphan]

Lawler, a champ in his 3rd title fight, made 150k base.

Conor, in his first title fight, made 500k.

I'm not saying Conor doesn't deserve the 5, but they doing some of these other dudes DIRTY.

I wouldn't be shocked if these numbers start getting worse. The way things are going they're gonna find a way to completely eliminate agents/managers. Some fighters already let their management team go cause there's nothing for them to do/negotiate. Supposedly even those deals you see guys signing with Reebok and MetroPCS to promote them are fixed deals that UFC already negotiated.

If you wanna make money in UFC you have to be one of Dana's favorites (Rousey & McGregor) or do something that makes them happy like when they gave Silva a Bentley for stepping in and saving a card in Brazil or Dana giving Machida a bonus from his personal checkbook for beating Tito.