"The Last Dance" Michael Jordan & Chicago Bulls Docuseries

jordan is 6-0 in the finals aka undefeated which makes him the goat... also he never played in a game 7 in the finals which solidifies hes the goat
 
He wasn’t. The Craig Hodges situation is one example of how MJ dropped the ball.

Craig Hodges was his own man. He respected what he stood for, but that doesn’t mean he should’ve felt obligated to step out there with him. There were a lot a big talkers who made a lot of noise in post-crack era America. That ball was dropped long before Michael Jordan. I’m gonna repeat, for emphasis, just because Mike’s moves aren’t publicized, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t making them. When it’s all said and done, and all we have left to do is look back at MJ instead of ahead, the same people saying “he didn’t do this/that” will be revising history once a lot of the real stories filter out.
 
Craig Hodges was his own man. He respected what he stood for, but that doesn’t mean he should’ve felt obligated to step out there with him. There were a lot a big talkers who made a lot of noise in post-crack era America. That ball was dropped long before Michael Jordan. I’m gonna repeat, for emphasis, just because Mike’s moves aren’t publicized, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t making them. When it’s all said and done, and all we have left to do is look back at MJ instead of ahead, the same people saying “he didn’t do this/that” will be revising history once a lot of the real stories filter out.
If Jordan were doing anything progressive, he obviously did not want it to get out. That speaks to his inability to take a stand, due to the fear of backlash. He took the OJ route, be safe. This is why Ali is so revered. This is also why Dr.J, Bill Russell and the like are respected OFF the court as well.
 
If Jordan were doing anything progressive, he obviously did not want it to get out. That speaks to his inability to take a stand, due to the fear of backlash. He took the OJ route, be safe. This is why Ali is so revered. This is also why Dr.J, Bill Russell and the like are respected OFF the court as well.

It doesn’t matter if he did it on top of the Sears Tower, or in the projects. The objective was met. Seeking respect or validation in comparison to other people isn’t honorable. Each athlete is respected on & off the court in their own respective way. They were each presented their own unique set of circumstances to overcome. Each one opened doors for the next to follow.
 
This is what happens in the alternate timeline where Jordan stays in that hotel room with the ‘lines over here and weed guys over there’

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Without Bias, one of the best episodes of 30 for 30 I've watched
Every draft my dad always brings Bias up and what could have been. Dude gets so upset over this because Bias was the key to let the C’s big three to ride off into the sunset with another possible couple of championships. Then he follows up with the Reggie Lewis coke stories.
well, your dads opintion is biased
 
It doesn’t matter if he did it on top of the Sears Tower, or in the projects. The objective was met. Seeking respect or validation in comparison to other people isn’t honorable. Each athlete is respected on & off the court in their own respective way. They were each presented their own unique set of circumstances to overcome. Each one opened doors for the next to follow.
I disagree. If those who need to see it do not see it get done? They will not believe it to be true. When LeBron called Trump a bum, Trump replied that he was a Jordan man. He should have never had the chance to say as such. Just like with many on this board, Jordan made them comfortable in his silence.
 
If MJ showed up in episode 10 wearing a MAGA hat would you all stop buying his shoes and gear? He more than likely votes Red because it benefits his bank account. MJ could have also donated to Obama because he believed in the message. Who cares though? Just guesses

If any celebrity or athlete is going to speak on politics they need to be about it one hundred percent( Ali) . My problem with LeBron doing it is that it’s always come across phony and calculated.
 
Great first two episodes. Was a pain in the *** to go find though. I was listening to Bill Simmon's podcast about it and didn't know 10s of millions go into making this kind of documentary these days.

My favorite part was watching Jordan calling out his teammates during the beginning of the 97 - 98 season
 
I disagree. If those who need to see it do not see it get done? They will not believe it to be true. When LeBron called Trump a bum, Trump replied that he was a Jordan man. He should have never had the chance to say as such. Just like with many on this board, Jordan made them comfortable in his silence.

but you’re not mad that Jordan had( or does he still) his hands in the prison industrial complex?

why do you or anyone need a celebrity or athlete to validate your beliefs? Trump sucks because he sucks not because LBJ says so
 
but you’re not mad that Jordan had( or does he still) his hands in the prison industrial complex?

why do you or anyone need a celebrity or athlete to validate your beliefs? Trump sucks because he sucks not because LBJ says so
Trump represents a demographic that has a huge problem with Black people. Also, the Jordan that has a hand in prisons is NOT Jordan the athlete. While I personally do not need an athlete to validate my beliefs, I do understand the power and reach a celebrity does have, upon those who do not have access to success, due to people like Trump, and the people who voted for Trump.
 
I disagree. If those who need to see it do not see it get done? They will not believe it to be true. When LeBron called Trump a bum, Trump replied that he was a Jordan man. He should have never had the chance to say as such. Just like with many on this board, Jordan made them comfortable in his silence.

It’s your right. It can happen whether you see it, believe it, or not give a damn. Even though this isn’t about LeBron, he said what he said, and the reply was a trolling remark.
 
It’s your right. It can happen whether you see it, believe it, or not give a damn. Even though this isn’t about LeBron, he said what he said, and the reply was a trolling remark.
Trump did not say that he was a Bill Russell fan. Russ has more rings. Russ has placed himself in the position of untouchable by white racists, even the Celtic fans. MJ dropped the ball.
 
So being a successful athlete automatically makes you obligated to be a human rights activist?

I’m sure Jordan has other charitable causes you’re not aware of, like the hospital he built in Charlotte for people in poverty
 
Trump did not say that he was a Bill Russell fan. Russ has more rings. Russ has placed himself in the position of untouchable by white racists, even the Celtic fans. MJ dropped the ball.

Because the constant topic of conversation on social media, ESPN, and all mainstream outlets is not LeBron vs Bill Russell. It’s LeBron vs Jordan. Stahhhhp it.
 
If MJ showed up in episode 10 wearing a MAGA hat would you all stop buying his shoes and gear? He more than likely votes Red because it benefits his bank account. MJ could have also donated to Obama because he believed in the message. Who cares though? Just guesses

If any celebrity or athlete is going to speak on politics they need to be about it one hundred percent( Ali) . My problem with LeBron doing it is that it’s always come across phony and calculated.
And what would he be able to do to NOT come off as phony/calculated?

Generally, in situations like THIS, the receiver tends to see what they want to see. If you WANT to view him as fake/phony, that might be what you end up seeing.
 
Because the constant topic of conversation on social media, ESPN, and all mainstream outlets is not LeBron vs Bill Russell. It’s LeBron vs Jordan. Stahhhhp it.
You misunderstood the point.
 
How many of them publicly chastised the current president of the united states, calling him a bum?
I dont keep count. So many have said so many bad things about this current president.

Honestly it isnt impressive given how low dude has brought the presidency.

Again man, I'm not throwing praise for doing the right thing. No matter what he could've lost. If he didn't someone else would have.
 
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