The Invincible Thread

[The Glove]

We all know Pete ****** up, but IMO the unstated part of Pete's decision to throw it was his reasoning for it. After all the excitement wore off, I wanted to know why. Not from beat writers or analysts, just straight from Pete's own mouth.

I forget his exact words, but basically it came down to Pete having the fear of Gawd. He knew he had more than 1 shot at the endzone and wanted to kill as much time as possible before Thomas got the ball back. The slant was considered a "safe" play on 2nd down. He figured he could be liberal with his downs and was OK if they didn't score there. The rest is history.

I always found that interesting though, and kind of an understated point. He based his decision around his fear of what Tom was about to do.

part of it was to kill clock but the big thing was to have 3 chances to score on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down. If you run the ball, you only get 2 chances to score cause we were out of time outs and there wasnt enough time to get 3 run plays off.

either way.. if the pats stop marshawn lynch back to back on the goal line...you gotta tip your hat to them.

what i don't get is why they did a timing route to the middle of the field to our 4th receiver...jesus do a bootleg where russ has the option to throw the ball away if he doesn't like what he sees

 

[dontsteponmyshoes]

Same thing happened tonight he was calling time outs as if Buffalo was going to score there at the end of the game, Bills had no time outs I was like wtf

 

[nick.]

Brady looks like such a douche in that first pic up there.

 

[The Glove]

Where is the rule that when the qb is out of the pocket you can interfere with receivers? Why wouldn't all teams just light up receivers once somebody is out of the pocket? Past the line of scrimmage is one thing, but out of the pocket?

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looks like you can do pretty much anything except hold when the QB is outside the pocket

 

[DeadsetAce]

i thought i remember pete saying it was matchup related. thought he could throw on our goal line package (with the added benefit of killing a few seconds if it didn't work and having a running play, two of them, in his back pocket). if belichick saw the formation and called a timeout, the hawks would have comeback and run it. but bill didn't flinch and was prepared with that goal line 3 corner set.

but i don't really have an issue with the call (yeah yeah, i know it worked out for me). but you don't expect to turn the ball over. you expect an incomplete pass. MAYBE a sack. but youre pretty confident your QB isn't going to get picked.

who knows though. i'm sure there's an element of knowing Brady could potentially lead a come back. i think this whole decision though, it's overblown for the most part. let's be real. the pass and catch was THERE. dude was open when Russ threw that ball. walk in TD. but Butler made an out of world play on that ball. who would expect that? Malcolm Butler of all people.

 

[moiety]

Damn I am in shock at the rule about when the QB leaves the pocket

Props to Sherman

I think ESPN pointed out the two QB's who scramble outside of the pocket most are Russ and Rodgers, these dudes should be 2 of the worst QB's in the league if you can head hunt and illegal contact goes out the window once they start scrambling. Seems way too good to be true and easier said than done, but still.. hmm..

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

 

We all know Pete ****** up, but IMO the unstated part of Pete's decision to throw it was his reasoning for it. After all the excitement wore off, I wanted to know why. Not from beat writers or analysts, just straight from Pete's own mouth.

I forget his exact words, but basically it came down to Pete having the fear of Gawd. He knew he had more than 1 shot at the endzone and wanted to kill as much time as possible before Thomas got the ball back. The slant was considered a "safe" play on 2nd down. He figured he could be liberal with his downs and was OK if they didn't score there. The rest is history.

I always found that interesting though, and kind of an understated point. He based his decision around his fear of what Tom was about to do.

part of it was to kill clock but the big thing was to have 3 chances to score on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down. If you run the ball, you only get 2 chances to score cause we were out of time outs and there wasnt enough time to get 3 run plays off.

either way.. if the pats stop marshawn lynch back to back on the goal line...you gotta tip your hat to them.

what i don't get is why they did a timing route to the middle of the field to our 4th receiver...jesus do a bootleg where russ has the option to throw the ball away if he doesn't like what he sees

You guys still had 1 timeout left.

Judging from everything I've heard, read, and saw on the final sequence...this is how Pete was gonna play it:

Inside slant on 2nd down. *supposed* to be either incomplete or a score here.

Run on 3rd down. Call the final timeout if Marshawn got stuffed.

Call who knows what on 4th down if it got that far.

There was around 20-25 seconds left when Russ snapped the ball on 2nd down. Pete was determined to bleed out the clock as much as possible.

Clearly he got too cute with it, but at least I could sort of see what he was trying to do. You saw Peak Tom Brady all in that 4th Q. If you could keep the ball out of his hands or give it back to them with basically no time left...why not do it?

 

[elpablo21]

We all know Pete ****** up, but IMO the unstated part of Pete's decision to throw it was his reasoning for it. After all the excitement wore off, I wanted to know why. Not from beat writers or analysts, just straight from Pete's own mouth.

I forget his exact words, but basically it came down to Pete having the fear of Gawd. He knew he had more than 1 shot at the endzone and wanted to kill as much time as possible before Thomas got the ball back. The slant was considered a "safe" play on 2nd down. He figured he could be liberal with his downs and was OK if they didn't score there. The rest is history.

I always found that interesting though, and kind of an understated point. He based his decision around his fear of what Tom was about to do.

part of it was to kill clock but the big thing was to have 3 chances to score on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down. If you run the ball, you only get 2 chances to score cause we were out of time outs and there wasnt enough time to get 3 run plays off.

either way.. if the pats stop marshawn lynch back to back on the goal line...you gotta tip your hat to them.

what i don't get is why they did a timing route to the middle of the field to our 4th receiver...jesus do a bootleg where russ has the option to throw the ball away if he doesn't like what he sees

get out here with these 30 for 30 *** posts man

 

[The Glove]

You guys still had 1 timeout left.

Judging from everything I've heard, read, and saw on the final sequence...this is how Pete was gonna play it:

Inside slant on 2nd down. *supposed* to be either incomplete or a score here.
Run on 3rd down. Call the final timeout if Marshawn got stuffed.
Call who knows what on 4th down if it got that far.

There was around 20-25 seconds left when Russ snapped the ball on 2nd down. Pete was determined to bleed out the clock as much as possible.

Clearly he got too cute with it, but at least I could sort of see what he was trying to do. You saw Peak Tom Brady all in that 4th Q. If you could keep the ball out of his hands or give it back to him with as least time as humanly possible...why not do it?

sounds right.. all i remember is that there wasn't enough timeouts/game clock for 3 straight run plays. pete determined that he was gonna throw on 2nd or 3rd down to get 3 plays off.. saw goal line on 2nd down and went pass there

 

[HNL HI]

RAIDERS on bye, gonna be in here getting my Silky Johnson on this week

 

[dragicon]

Where is the rule that when the qb is out of the pocket you can interfere with receivers? Why wouldn't all teams just light up receivers once somebody is out of the pocket? Past the line of scrimmage is one thing, but out of the pocket?

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looks like you can do pretty much anything except hold when the QB is outside the pocket

Thank you for that. I just don't understand why we don't see more of this in the NFL then.

 

[dmbrhs]

Damn I am in shock at the rule about when the QB leaves the pocket

Props to Sherman

I think ESPN pointed out the two QB's who scramble outside of the pocket most are Russ and Rodgers, these dudes should be 2 of the worst QB's in the league if you can head hunt and illegal contact goes out the window once they start scrambling. Seems way too good to be true and easier said than done, but still.. hmm..

There's probably a very thin margin for error because illegal contact/PI comes back into play the moment the QB establishes himself as a passer. (or, at least that's what it sounds like).

Although defensive backs generally aren’t allowed to contact a receiver more than five yards down the field, this play is legal for a few reasons. Defensive backs are allowed to establish their space. It appeared that Powell was trying to get Sherman to back off by doing a Maverick-style buzzing of the tower and Sherman just defended his space. Also, quarterback Tyrod Taylor was out of the pocket so it is legal to block the same as if it was a run play, and it was legal for Sherman to hit Powell at that time.

Defensive pass interference is only back on the table when the quarterback returns to a passing posture.

Sherman had a very small window of opportunity. Notice how all he did was knock the receiver down, and doesn't continue to engage, knowing the QB is going to throw it at any moment.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

 

You guys still had 1 timeout left.

Judging from everything I've heard, read, and saw on the final sequence...this is how Pete was gonna play it:

Inside slant on 2nd down. *supposed* to be either incomplete or a score here.
Run on 3rd down. Call the final timeout if Marshawn got stuffed.
Call who knows what on 4th down if it got that far.

There was around 20-25 seconds left when Russ snapped the ball on 2nd down. Pete was determined to bleed out the clock as much as possible.

Clearly he got too cute with it, but at least I could sort of see what he was trying to do. You saw Peak Tom Brady all in that 4th Q. If you could keep the ball out of his hands or give it back to him with as least time as humanly possible...why not do it?

sounds right.. all i remember is that there wasn't enough timeouts/game clock for 3 straight run plays. pete determined that he was gonna throw on 2nd or 3rd down to get 3 plays off.. saw goal line on 2nd down and went pass there

Yup, this is right. Pats went 3 quarters goal line on D and Pete went with the pass on 2nd instead of 3rd.

I also agree with you on the playcall itself. Safer bet would've been a bootleg away from Revis' side. Maybe he felt the chances of some crazy **** taking place would be greater with players scrambling and/or out of position? IDK.

On our side of it...pretty much everyone was screaming at Belichick to take the timeouts. 

I thought he was gonna let y'all score like he did with the Giants in 2011.

The explanation given was he read how the Hawks offense came out awkwardly out of the break and not lining up right. It just looked sort of discombobulated with all the time being wasted (maybe on purpose?) getting set correctly. Dude would've got flame grilled something serious if his hunch ended up being wrong because every expletive in the book was being thrown his way on many TV's before that play.

 

[HNL HI]

The Seahawks extend their Monday Night Football streak to 11 games. 2nd-longest in the history of the series (Raiders, 14 from 1975-81) https://t.co/watQ14eADG

 

[Warmachine85]

You mean extending there streak of pay refs off

 

[a55a5in11]

You mean extending there streak of pay refs off

*Their
*Paying

 

[Warmachine85]

*Their
*Paying

Its always funny to me when somebody tries to correct something on a online forum like we is school

 

[a55a5in11]

*Their
*Paying

Its always funny to me when somebody tries to correct something on a online forum like we is school

*We're
*In
Laugh away

 

[spacedoodoo]

 

Right in front of the official

Didn't know you could head hunt just because the QB is outside the pocket, good to know

sherman also got away with a blatant hold on the previous 3rd down. right in the endzone. no flag 

 

[Chester McFloppy]

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[kingfoamnyc]

 

[T0INE]

I’m standing back there getting ready for the snap, and I’m so nervous. Then the Cowboys are getting set to rush the punt, and all of a sudden I see one of their linebackers looking at me funny.

He yells out, “Yo, what is this?”

He’s pointing at me. Then he’s waving to his teammates. I’m just confused.

Then he yells, “A black punter? It’s a fake! Yo, it’s a fake!”

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/marquette-king-raiders-can-i-kick-it/

 

[rolaholic]

Also loved dudes interview with Primetime after the game ,he said he might have a new dance in store for the Mexico game coming up . Dude is becoming one of my favorite players

 

[stillin729]

Hoodie wrote Trump a letter

“Congratulations on a tremendous campaign,” Trump said, quoting the letter. “You have dealt with an unbelievable slanted and negative media, and have come out beautifully – beautifully. You’ve proved to be the ultimate competitor and fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you, but the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election results will give the opportunity to make America great again. Best wishes for great results tomorrow.”

 

[awwsome]

Hoodie wrote Trump a letter

More gross than him tongue kissing his daughter.