"The Decision" in retrospect

Im not going to argue with you anymore Luke. There is no way either of us can prove what we are saying. Its called an opinion. Yours is no more valid than mine.
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

It was funny. Dude literally @%!$!+! on the city and they won't recover economically or emotionally for years


You sound like a damn fool. There is so much going on in Cleveland right now, that in a few years it will look completely different. As I've said on here many times, Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country, and in the case of the Browns, even when they are losing. One player does not make us the fans we are. It's a team that's committed to winning and that wins.
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

It was funny. Dude literally @%!$!+! on the city and they won't recover economically or emotionally for years


You sound like a damn fool. There is so much going on in Cleveland right now, that in a few years it will look completely different. As I've said on here many times, Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country, and in the case of the Browns, even when they are losing. One player does not make us the fans we are. It's a team that's committed to winning and that wins.
 
Originally Posted by dland24

Im not going to argue with you anymore Luke. There is no way either of us can prove what we are saying. Its called an opinion. Yours is no more valid than mine.


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Of course I can provide evidence. I didn't even bring the numbers into this thread, which backs up everything I've been saying so far - but then again if I do that, your rebuttal becomes "stats don't matter".
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Watch the games. And if you don't, the numbers are here for you as well. But either way, the idea that the Lakers would more likely be a lottery team without Kobe than a playoff team doesn't carry weight.
 
Originally Posted by dland24

Im not going to argue with you anymore Luke. There is no way either of us can prove what we are saying. Its called an opinion. Yours is no more valid than mine.


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Of course I can provide evidence. I didn't even bring the numbers into this thread, which backs up everything I've been saying so far - but then again if I do that, your rebuttal becomes "stats don't matter".
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Watch the games. And if you don't, the numbers are here for you as well. But either way, the idea that the Lakers would more likely be a lottery team without Kobe than a playoff team doesn't carry weight.
 
OneTrust wrote:
Remember, Pau Gasol (who would then be the guy carrying the Lakers) wasnt Pau Gasol until he teamed up with Kobe.  Just sayin.



Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.
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 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 





Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
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OneTrust wrote:
Remember, Pau Gasol (who would then be the guy carrying the Lakers) wasnt Pau Gasol until he teamed up with Kobe.  Just sayin.



Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.
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 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 





Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
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Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

It was funny. Dude literally @%!$!+! on the city and they won't recover economically or emotionally for years
Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country,
lebron is the winning team... look at the cavs, if lebron was still there you guys would still be winning and the economy would be better...
 
Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

It was funny. Dude literally @%!$!+! on the city and they won't recover economically or emotionally for years
Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country,
lebron is the winning team... look at the cavs, if lebron was still there you guys would still be winning and the economy would be better...
 
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

OneTrust wrote:
Remember, Pau Gasol (who would then be the guy carrying the Lakers) wasnt Pau Gasol until he teamed up with Kobe.  Just sayin.

Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.
eyes.gif
 

laugh.gif
 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 





Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
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A younger Pau Gasol whose best 2nd banana were Battier and Posey, and played powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Suns with their best players in the lineup.Okay.
 
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

OneTrust wrote:
Remember, Pau Gasol (who would then be the guy carrying the Lakers) wasnt Pau Gasol until he teamed up with Kobe.  Just sayin.

Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.
eyes.gif
 

laugh.gif
 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 





Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
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A younger Pau Gasol whose best 2nd banana were Battier and Posey, and played powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Suns with their best players in the lineup.Okay.
 
Originally Posted by YoungTriz

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

It was funny. Dude literally @%!$!+! on the city and they won't recover economically or emotionally for years
Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country,
lebron is the winning team... look at the cavs, if lebron was still there you guys would still be winning and the economy would be better...


Good luck getting out the second round in the playoffs
 
Originally Posted by YoungTriz

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

It was funny. Dude literally @%!$!+! on the city and they won't recover economically or emotionally for years
Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country,
lebron is the winning team... look at the cavs, if lebron was still there you guys would still be winning and the economy would be better...


Good luck getting out the second round in the playoffs
 
Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

OneTrust wrote:

Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.
eyes.gif
 

laugh.gif
 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 


Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
laugh.gif


A younger Pau Gasol whose best 2nd banana were Battier and Posey, and played powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Suns with their best players in the lineup. Okay.


   Whats your point?

Those Grizzle teams had some good players......Posey,Wells, Battier, Mike Miller, Swift, Jason Williams, No great players but good players ( all averaged around 15 or more PPG) The same type of team he'd be left with without Kobe. 
 
Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

OneTrust wrote:

Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.
eyes.gif
 

laugh.gif
 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 


Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
laugh.gif


A younger Pau Gasol whose best 2nd banana were Battier and Posey, and played powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Suns with their best players in the lineup. Okay.


   Whats your point?

Those Grizzle teams had some good players......Posey,Wells, Battier, Mike Miller, Swift, Jason Williams, No great players but good players ( all averaged around 15 or more PPG) The same type of team he'd be left with without Kobe. 
 
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly



Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
laugh.gif


A younger Pau Gasol whose best 2nd banana were Battier and Posey, and played powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Suns with their best players in the lineup. Okay.


   Whats your point?

Those Grizzle teams had some good players......Posey,Wells, Battier, Mike Miller, Swift, Jason Williams, No great players but good players ( all averaged around 15 or more PPG) The same type of team he'd be left with without Kobe. 


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PPG? Really now?
 
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly



Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?
laugh.gif


A younger Pau Gasol whose best 2nd banana were Battier and Posey, and played powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Suns with their best players in the lineup. Okay.


   Whats your point?

Those Grizzle teams had some good players......Posey,Wells, Battier, Mike Miller, Swift, Jason Williams, No great players but good players ( all averaged around 15 or more PPG) The same type of team he'd be left with without Kobe. 


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PPG? Really now?
 
Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Originally Posted by YoungTriz

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country,
lebron is the winning team... look at the cavs, if lebron was still there you guys would still be winning and the economy would be better...


Good luck getting out the second round in the playoffs

[Chris Brown] Not sure how you can hate from outside of the playoffs......Y'all can't even get in [/Chris Brown]
 
Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Originally Posted by YoungTriz

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

Lebron didn't help Cleveland's economy, a winning team did. When our teams are good, we come out and support them better than any other city in this country,
lebron is the winning team... look at the cavs, if lebron was still there you guys would still be winning and the economy would be better...


Good luck getting out the second round in the playoffs

[Chris Brown] Not sure how you can hate from outside of the playoffs......Y'all can't even get in [/Chris Brown]
 
Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

Originally Posted by CAFinest23

Originally Posted by RUDOLPH1996


This.
  
THAT



He said in is first ever article that he would not rest until he brought a championship to the city of cleveland and he back out on it. 
You dudes act like Lebron is Jesus and taking his word as the gospel.  Ya'll a bunch of grown men, I'd like to think, so stop taking +%!% so literal.

Nah Lebron did EXACTLY what he said he would he brought a championship game to the city of cleveland in 2007

Lebron
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

Originally Posted by CAFinest23

Originally Posted by RUDOLPH1996


This.
  
THAT



He said in is first ever article that he would not rest until he brought a championship to the city of cleveland and he back out on it. 
You dudes act like Lebron is Jesus and taking his word as the gospel.  Ya'll a bunch of grown men, I'd like to think, so stop taking +%!% so literal.

Nah Lebron did EXACTLY what he said he would he brought a championship game to the city of cleveland in 2007

Lebron
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this thread is pretty much a %@+% on kobe while slurping lebron thread, kinda corny but it's just as lame when dudes make threads to slurp kobe at lebrons expense. same way how some dudes get uptight on here when you criticize lebron in any way shape or form even if it's justified. no player is immune to criticism.

at the end of the day if lebron wins rings in miami he made the right move, i could care less about the sidekick talk and all that b.s because lebron isn't a sidekick nor is dwayne wade, that whole batman and robin talk is dumb, if they both play a huge role and part in winning rings for their team then that's all that matters. regarding him leaving cleveland however, how he handled it, anyone who thinks "the decision" was an acceptable way to go about it is a damn fool and is letting their biased views affect their common sense but that's normal on here.
 
this thread is pretty much a %@+% on kobe while slurping lebron thread, kinda corny but it's just as lame when dudes make threads to slurp kobe at lebrons expense. same way how some dudes get uptight on here when you criticize lebron in any way shape or form even if it's justified. no player is immune to criticism.

at the end of the day if lebron wins rings in miami he made the right move, i could care less about the sidekick talk and all that b.s because lebron isn't a sidekick nor is dwayne wade, that whole batman and robin talk is dumb, if they both play a huge role and part in winning rings for their team then that's all that matters. regarding him leaving cleveland however, how he handled it, anyone who thinks "the decision" was an acceptable way to go about it is a damn fool and is letting their biased views affect their common sense but that's normal on here.
 
i dont care that he went to miami. he had a chance to go to a championship caliber team and win a ring. hes a free agent, he could do whatever he wants. thats fine with me but the fact of how he did it. a whole hour special on where hes going?
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 c'mon
 
i dont care that he went to miami. he had a chance to go to a championship caliber team and win a ring. hes a free agent, he could do whatever he wants. thats fine with me but the fact of how he did it. a whole hour special on where hes going?
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 c'mon
 
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