The Combat Jack Show Thread

I think Ish made a decent point in that you have to define the criteria used to judge. If it was sales, I understand where he's coming from.

I think Marc had the best point on that topic...its an apples and oranges comparison. They were 2 totally different type of artists.

Also when sales started mattering in the 80's and recorded, Marvin and Stevie weren't chumps. They were going multi.

Marvin was just coming off Sexual Healing when he was killed.

Ish comment is something a Aubrey stan would say. He's too old for that.
 
Whitney was ranked SECOND on Rolling Stones top 100 singers…. She had a 20+ year run. What are we doing here

Not to mention three acclaimed. Ya’ll need to stop rewriting history
 
Marvin put out like 20 albums over 30 years
Stevie...**** is ridiculous
Smokey...what he's done with his pen.

What do their runs have to don with hers? (I didn’t watch the video) but did Ish put her head and shoulders above them?

If he did, I agree with you about that
 
Also when sales started mattering in the 80's and recorded, Marvin and Stevie weren't chumps. They were going multi.

Marvin was just coming off Sexual Healing when he was killed.

Ish comment is something a Aubrey stan would say. He's too old for that.

Sales ALWAYS mattered bro. Dating back to the 50s……
 
Whitney was ranked SECOND on Rolling Stones top 100 singers…. She had a 20+ year run. What are we doing here

Not to mention three acclaimed. Ya’ll need to stop rewriting history

She didn't have a 20 year run

She had a run of four albums. It was spread out like crazy after the first three.

My Love was essentially a comeback album where they had to push her in the studio to work with the best of the best. Look at the album after where Clive was like **** it, despite what My Love did. Despite her signing one of those big Madonna/Janet contracts.

You can't Terrell Davis her and say, well what if she didn't get hurt. Bo Jackson, what if he played one sport and didn't get hurt. She could sing though. What she could have done with her voice. Dudes were putting up stats for 25 years

It stemmed from comparing Barry Gordy and Clive Davis. And I agree Clive had different genres, but Barry introduced the mount rushmore of R&B.

Mike, Marvin, Stevie and Smokey

****in Mike isn't just the big joker he's 10 big jokers. Plus Barry was actually not just a music exec.
 
Berry Gordy definitely band for band with Clive. He’s always been better. Even from a marketing standpoint.

Ish tripping
 
Sales ALWAYS mattered bro. Dating back to the 50s……

Sales of course mattered, but you can't look and see what a lot of those albums from the 60's and 70's were selling the first week or in total.

The sheer fact that Motown was putting out these albums like No Limit at it's peak shows you how they were doing.
 
Sometimes they just argue with Marc to argue

They spent way longer on that Brandon Marshall clip to go in circles.

They did that with the Floyd topic also.

and I liked when Flip wasn't there the first hour, because he's basically Joe's parrot and will pick whatever position Joe picks.

Brandon Marshall faces his own criticism when he post it online. That's why you keep your parenting offline. Once you invite people in your house, it's hard to get them out. Besides possibly unnecessarily embarrassing him. Everyone has their own parenting tactics and a lot of people think their way is the way, but you might not see the results until later in life. We don't even know what he did. Kid might have been playing on his phone at 2am instead of sleep and that's why Brandon made him run at 2am. Since you want to be on your phone at 2am....

All Marc said was keep it offline. They kept trying to make it more than it was.

And Floyd. All these poor people in the world. It's people standing outside asking for money in 95 degree heat and you want me to feel sorry for the dude who used to brag about all his cars and his $10 million dollar watch :lol: I don't care about his moniker. That man is 50.
 
They did that with the Floyd topic also.

and I liked when Flip wasn't there the first hour, because he's basically Joe's parrot and will pick whatever position Joe picks.

Brandon Marshall faces his own criticism when he post it online. That's why you keep your parenting offline. Once you invite people in your house, it's hard to get them out. Besides possibly unnecessarily embarrassing him. Everyone has their own parenting tactics and a lot of people think their way is the way, but you might not see the results until later in life. We don't even know what he did. Kid might have been playing on his phone at 2am instead of sleep and that's why Brandon made him run at 2am. Since you want to be on your phone at 2am....

All Marc said was keep it offline. They kept trying to make it more than it was.

And Floyd. All these poor people in the world. It's people standing outside asking for money in 95 degree heat and you want me to feel sorry for the dude who used to brag about all his cars and his $10 million dollar watch :lol: I don't care about his moniker. That man is 50.

Yeah. Only thing B-Marshall did wrong was record it. Don’t tell me how to discipline my kids, especially if the criticism is coming from a lousy parent. Long as I know I made the effort.

Recording your kid in an embarrassing situation can be a defining moment in their life. Especially nowadays. Even though public shaming is damn near extinct because people don’t seem to even care anymore.

I’ll never forget I got a bad interim report in the 7th grade and my mom made me trim my hair. Still pisses me off to this day. I’m like, what did you accomplish by making me angry and dislike you in that moment. That same teacher has no influence on my life, I still was an excellent student. All it did was build resentment.

But yeah, B Marsh was right for making buddy run, wrong for recording.

These soft a*** kids need this
 
Yeah. Only thing B-Marshall did wrong was record it. Don’t tell me how to discipline my kids, especially if the criticism is coming from a lousy parent. Long as I know I made the effort.

Recording your kid in an embarrassing situation can be a defining moment in their life. Especially nowadays. Even though public shaming is damn near extinct because people don’t seem to even care anymore.

I’ll never forget I got a bad interim report in the 7th grade and my mom made me trim my hair. Still pisses me off to this day. I’m like, what did you accomplish by making me angry and dislike you in that moment. That same teacher has no influence on my life, I still was an excellent student. All it did was build resentment.

But yeah, B Marsh was right for making buddy run, wrong for recording.

These soft a*** kids need this

Damn, Brandon was really right, because even you didn't bash him. :rofl:
 
She didn't have a 20 year run

She had a run of four albums. It was spread out like crazy after the first three.

My Love was essentially a comeback album where they had to push her in the studio to work with the best of the best. Look at the album after where Clive was like **** it, despite what My Love did. Despite her signing one of those big Madonna/Janet contracts.

You can't Terrell Davis her and say, well what if she didn't get hurt. Bo Jackson, what if he played one sport and didn't get hurt. She could sing though. What she could have done with her voice. Dudes were putting up stats for 25 years

It stemmed from comparing Barry Gordy and Clive Davis. And I agree Clive had different genres, but Barry introduced the mount rushmore of R&B.

Mike, Marvin, Stevie and Smokey

****in Mike isn't just the big joker he's 10 big jokers. Plus Barry was actually not just a music exec.

I gotta hear the discussion but Whitney wasn't Bo Jackson. Whitney dropped MONSTER albums with multiple smash hit singles. She didn't need to drop every year or every other year. Her songs had staying power. Her impact is massive.
 
Yeah Ish was bugging. He was gonna try and make it about sales.

Hyper focused on Marvin being taken out by Whitney (which is wrong) knowing she stands absolutely zero chance against MJ or Stevie :lol
 
Damn, Brandon was really right, because even you didn't bash him. :rofl:

His personality and business acumen doesn’t have anything to do with proper parenting. Especially with how soft these boys are being raised.

:lol :lol I can agree with how he handled his boy
 
I agree with Berry Gordy > Clive Davis

But this the second time Joe been disrespectful to Whitney. I love Marvin, I listen to more Marvin than any 70's singer but he saying Whitney don't belong in the same room as Marvin. Man what?
 
I agree with Berry Gordy > Clive Davis

But this the second time Joe been disrespectful to Whitney. I love Marvin, I listen to more Marvin than any 70's singer but he saying Whitney don't belong in the same room as Marvin. Man what?

Just shock value that’s it. She’s got one of the most powerful and distinctive voices ever
 
I think Richard Jefferson is an a-hole, never cared for him since he was a Net and heard what he said to JWill live. It was foul.

Joe is a hypocrite. The setting/platform definitely matters and changes things, it definitely does but he's made E cancer jokes, E dead parent jokes, Ish got shot jokes, etc. all the time on the pod :lol
 
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