The Combat Jack Show Thread

[Magic33]

I don't think he discussed artist as presidents. He discussed himself as president. He's the one who essentially built Def Jam. That's why he used the Michael Jackson at Motown analogy. He was referring to reports of him wanting to be president.

I thought the interview was good, because you don't get one that long from him and the number of topics he addressed.

I have mixed feelings about LL, and that's sort of how it's been his whole career. Bigger & Deffer was probably one of my first rap tapes, but as a kid the climate had changed for dude I was poking holes in the cover. It wasn't cool to like him if you weren't a chick. Remember when it was mentioned how he was booed? That's where Mama Said came from, because Walking With A Panther sold and still had hit singles. Rakim, KRS and Kane had changed raps direction. But LL used to be the comebacks because when you thought he was dead he suddenly popped back up with I Shot Ya, 4,3,2,1 or Flava Remix.

Personally LL was done for me with Mr Smith, and probably for everyone else with The DEFinition.

I don't think it's as much as being like Kanye, I don't think LL knows what he wants to be.

He seems like a lot of Queens cat to me. You're doing too much. Sometimes for me he comes off like Sticky and especially Fredro.

He goes in and out of, I hung with Azee and Alpo, to I'm this good Christian dude. In your mid 40's you're doing it now? But he straightens up to make sure he doesn't offend "them", but like Barkley and Stephen A, he has no problems saying what WE need to do.

LL isn't fighting for relevancy, he's fighting for respect.

But he's done a lot of bad career choices that makes you either overlook him or frankly not want to mention him. That Accidental Racist song was the last straw.

I thought it was cool how you could tell how much he loved rap though.

 

[Magic33]

Enjoyed this one too, documentary was good also. I hope they get their money.

They got $41 mil from the city, and now they're trying to get $52 or so from the state.

I wish they would sue Donald Trump

That dude is scum.

 

[rillo561]

They got $41 mil from the city, and now they're trying to get $52 or so from the state.

I wish they would sue Donald Trump

That dude is scum.

Yeah I read about they are trying to get more, it sucks the taxpayers are on the hook for it but they got screwed big time. **** Trump.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

LL was dropping gems.

 

[nawghtyhare]

I don't think he discussed artist as presidents. He discussed himself as president. He's the one who essentially built Def Jam. That's why he used the Michael Jackson at Motown analogy. He was referring to reports of him wanting to be president.

I thought the interview was good, because you don't get one that long from him and the number of topics he addressed.

I have mixed feelings about LL, and that's sort of how it's been his whole career. Bigger & Deffer was probably one of my first rap tapes, but as a kid the climate had changed for dude I was poking holes in the cover. It wasn't cool to like him if you weren't a chick. Remember when it was mentioned how he was booed? That's where Mama Said came from, because Walking With A Panther sold and still had hit singles. Rakim, KRS and Kane had changed raps direction. But LL used to be the comebacks because when you thought he was dead he suddenly popped back up with I Shot Ya, 4,3,2,1 or Flava Remix.

Personally LL was done for me with Mr Smith, and probably for everyone else with The DEFinition.

I don't think it's as much as being like Kanye, I don't think LL knows what he wants to be.

He seems like a lot of Queens cat to me. You're doing too much. Sometimes for me he comes off like Sticky and especially Fredro.

He goes in and out of, I hung with Azee and Alpo, to I'm this good Christian dude. In your mid 40's you're doing it now? But he straightens up to make sure he doesn't offend "them", but like Barkley and Stephen A, he has no problems saying what WE need to do.

LL isn't fighting for relevancy, he's fighting for respect.

But he's done a lot of bad career choices that makes you either overlook him or frankly not want to mention him. That Accidental Racist song was the last straw.

I thought it was cool how you could tell how much he loved rap though.

Yeah but what's crazy is some of our 90's and early 2000's fav rappers top 5 or 10 have LL in their lists
He definitely loves rap
Last song I actually liked from him was that imagine that song from that album GOAT
also or maybe that song from the any given Sunday soundtrack when he was rapping fast
shut em down or whatever it was called
But I had yo YouTube that 2 on remix with him
And damn seemed like old LL
It was hot I can't front
He can def still spit

 

[nawghtyhare]

Enjoyed this one too, documentary was good also. I hope they get their money.

They got $41 mil from the city, and now they're trying to get $52 or so from the state.

I wish they would sue Donald Trump

That dude is scum.

Thinking about listening to their interview
Few questions though
But who are they
What they do
And why they sue and get money

 

[Magic33]

Thinking about listening to their interview
Few questions though
But who are they
What they do
And why they sue and get money

I was a kid, but it was so huge in New York it went national. The media sensationalized that story so much. It was the epitome of the media demonizing black and latino men.

A white jogger was raped in Central Park, and the police got the first black and latino kids they saw in the area...and it was them. They didn't know or barely knew each other, so they got them to flip on each other. I think they were from 14-16. Got their parents to leave while they took statements and everything. They didn't even have physical evidence, like semen, blood or witnesses.

They ended up spending six to eight years in juvie or jail depending on their ages. And back then Spofford(juvie joint) was worse than Rikers. You've probably heard Mike Tyson talk about it. That was the worst of the worst from all over the city.

It was a known serial rapist who actually committed the crime. He had admitted to it, and the DNA test matched. The police still took their time looking in to someone else doing it and dude committed other rapes until he was finally caught.

That's why people talk about Al Sharpton, but he was involved in a lot of stuff he didn't need to be. Like defending those kids and trying to get them bail. He really had nothing to gain, because they had the entire city against them.

If anything it was Donald Trump who was the race baiter, and has been for nearly 25 years. That dude couldn't even apologize when they were exonerated and still said some slick ****.

You probably want to start with the PBS Documentary that the documentary king Ken Burns put out. I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix. It might be on youtube also.

 

[heliumclinton]

and to this some people still think these kids did it

One of the Central Park 5 refuses to even do interviews or show his face because he was so traumatized. People said he had it the worst in prison because he was the smallest.

They ruined these kids life, didn't even get a chance to live.

 

[neon coke]

ross interview wasnt bad to me . he drops info if you listen the right way and way better than the generic interviews he gives aside from the breakfast club 

the central park 5 stuff is crazy . i just dont understand why the kid confessed tho . i mean its easy to say what you would do in their shoes , but they didnt do it so why say any different . gonna watch the documentary later .

not really interested in LL but ima listen in hopes he drops og gems . big fan of old LL , but i feel like because he exceeded his expectations so many times he's in denial about still trying to put out music . its been a wrap . 

 

[Magic33]

I was wondering why they confessed, but after 10+ hours of no sleep or food, at 15 years old, who knows what I would do.

I think back then people weren't as aware of what goes on.

Honestly, I blame their parents more than them. I would never leave my son alone with the police without legal representation present.

 

[neon coke]

^watching the documentary now . the confessions are all over the place . even during one of the tapings , the female interrogating them asked if he was just saying yes because she was asking him certain questions because she know the kid was lying . none of them even match . and i agree the parents should have stepped up . you know your child more than anyone . idk if it was fear or sheer ignorance but the entire case only rested on their confessions ...

 

[heliumclinton]

They put the kids against each other. Told one kid "he said you did it" so of course the kid is scared as hell and going to say "nope he did it"

Told the parents they are getting discharged just waiting for paperwork. Parents go to work and tell grandparents to wait for them to come out, all of a sudden they arrested for rape

Lot of grimey stuff happening

 

[neon coke]

watched the whole thing . if someone would have just said stop talking , they wouldn't have went through any of that . it came down to dna and they still blew trial based on their confessions . even though there were holes all in the stories and someone should have spoke up about it , its a situation that spiraled out of control .

 

[Magic33]

And of course it comes to representation. If you don't have a good lawyer you're more likely to get convicted. The public defenders want to do as less work as possible, and move on to the next case. They're looking towards their next gig, not towards your innocence. You're just another case.

 

[mr marcus]

Need to listen to that pod/watch the doc

Not really up on this tbh

 

[aNYone]

Didnt Trump pay for ads in the New York Times about this

Like he spent bread to put these kids under the jail

 

[harlemtothebronx]

He was calling for the death penalty.

Scum.

 

[rillo561]

And still hasn't apologized.

 

[Magic33]

Dude is the worst. I thought the Obama birth certificate stuff was just the tip of the ice berg, but he's been doing that sort of stuff for 30 years. Dude has showed his horns multiple times.

I can't even look at someone like TO who goes on his show now.

 

[rrlegend]

No lie the ll podcast had me rolling , with the he-she explanation in flavor in ya ear , and home explaining him beating ole boy down in his boxers , pause

 

[Magic33]

Why do Cipha and Rosenberg leave the ******** in their interviews while they're waiting instead of editing it out? I thought I was getting two hours of Premier and Royce.

I remember when Combat occasionally had the canceled guest, so they would have a two hours of talking about random stuff and joking around. I ended up liking some of those episodes better than the ones with guest, because it was Dallas being Dallas and Pete being Pete.

Cipha and Rosenberg, I just become annoyed. They aren't entertaining or funny. Nobody cares about your rental car.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

They really aren't. Neither of them are particularly likeable.

And listening to the Chris Rock episode was tough. Dudes needed to just let Chris and ?uest work off each other...instead Rosenberg is bragging about being Amber Rose's best friend.

Dog.

I wonder if his wife ever looks at him and thinks to herself 'how did I end up stuck with this cornball?'

 

[jr paperstacks]

Funny, I like Juan Ep faaaar more than Combat, to the point I had to unsubscribe from CJ. They get better guests, but the interviews are just terrible to me. The questions Pete chimes in with make me want to jump off a building. And Combat just...annoys me. Like, the way he talks is annoying - his cadences. I don't know. I can't do it. Reminds me of Xzibit or something.

And I know it's been a while, but Benhameen was the worst DJ i've ever heard.

I don't know, man, Rosenberg and Ciph are pretty funny to me. *shrug*

I appreciate the way they do it rather than just be beat over the head with information from the guests and their agenda. Put yourself in there. I listen for them just as much as the guest. But Maron is my favorite podcast overall, so, you know...same.

 

[dtb00201]

Funny, I like Juan Ep faaaar more than Combat, to the point I had to unsubscribe from CJ.

I did the exact same thing a few months ago. CJ has been awful for a minute. Juan Ep is actually funny and entertaining. I enjoy the randomness of it all. It got to the point where I was cutting off all CJ interviews 20 min in and hearing Pete go "Cheaaaa" all the time sounded like nails on a chalkboard to me.

 

[rillo561]

CJ>>>Juan ep. It's not even close IMO.

While Juan ep may have better guest, they don't let them talk for the short amount of time they have them on the show. Epstein makes the podcast more about himself more than anything.