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The Burke slander will sound foolish when he gives Siva 25 and 7 on Monday. We know how Peyton plays on the big stage. Michigan has more weapons on offense and if they can cut the turnovers and force Louisville to shoot its theirs.
 
I wasn't mad at Trey's game tonight. Heart doesn't mean having to score 20 plus every game. He did well managing the game. He didn't force too much and other guys stepped up. It was definitely as tough a defensive scheme he's played all season. He'll be fine come Monday night. Also, he's been playing with a back injury since the VCU game when he took a hard bump.

[COLOR=#red]You insult my basketball intelligence by implying that I thought he had a bad game due to his scoring output. It was his tepid nature, tentativeness, and overall lack of fire and intensity, also the inability of him to step up that I'm talking about. He was indecisive...committing the cardinal sin of jumping without having a pass in mind a few too many times. At one point on a extremely soft press with only one guy in front of him before crossing halfcourt he looked scared and like he didn't even want the ball and looked to pass it upcourt. He was horrible from the FT line when he's an 80% shooter normally. He was generally uninspired and listless during a Final Four game...this coming from a Player of the Year. But like CruThik mentioned it's more a testament to a somewhat weak College Bball season why he got POY. Keep it real...it was more than the zone being effective...it was more like the zone had him SHOOK.

Just think the Levert dude played with more intensity and passion and sense of urgency than he did and dude comes off the bench. Face it besides that very nice deep 3 he hit, pretty much all he did was swing the ball from left wing to right wing, he didn't even really attempt to probe the zone. Now just imagine Chris Paul from his Wake Forest days in that same position. Sure the 2-3 would have caused some challenge...especially with Syracuse's long and rangy athletes, but still I guarantee he would have made more of an impact. Why do I bring up Chris Paul...simple because I've seen and heard a few people compare him to CP3.[/COLOR]



The Burke slander will sound foolish when he gives Siva 25 and 7 on Monday. We know how Peyton plays on the big stage. Michigan has more weapons on offense and if they can cut the turnovers and force Louisville to shoot its theirs.

[COLOR=#red]Slander??? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin. No homie, it's called calling what it is. Don't be so butt hurt.

Oh and remember it's more than about Peyton Siva...somehow you are forgetting Russ Smith...yeah the same Russ Smith who found a way to average 17ppg against the same Syracuse D that Burke faced as they won 2 out of 3 games against the Orangemen.[/COLOR]
 
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Yea no hate on trey at all. I like his game alot, but you would be blind to think he flaws werent exposed last night. Its just constructive criticism fam. No malice behind it at all
 
Passion and intensity are irelvent, I think you are imagining all those qualities. Trey played fine, if any thing he was too intense early on jacking up some ill advised shots, he settled down and helped pick a part the zone They got caught a little off gaurd by the press, but don't expect this to effect them at Louisville, Trey is too good of a ball handler and everyone on the team can make good decisions.
 
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[COLOR=#red]Passion and intensity are irelvent, I think you are imagining all those qualities.[/COLOR] Trey played fine, if any thing he was too intense early on jacking up some ill advised shots, he settled down and helped pick a part the zone They got caught a little off gaurd by the press, but don't expect this to effect them at Louisville, Trey is too good of a ball handler and everyone on the team can make good decisions.

[COLOR=#red]The passage that I highlighted and bolded in your response pretty much lets me know that I'll never discuss hoops with you after this. It also lets me know that your understanding of the game in its entirety and the ability to accurately assess what goes on in a game is totally absent.[/COLOR]
 
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[h1]Imagining an NBA Draft with No Age Limit[/h1]April 02, 2013 at 9:38 AM By Adam Zagoria

This year will mark the 10th anniversary of LeBron James’s grant entrance into the NBA, when he wore an all-white suit (perfect garb for a Savior) to Madison Square Garden and was chosen No. 1 by the Cleveland Cavaliers out of St. Vincent-St. Mary High School in Akron, Ohio.

Two years later, the NBA and the players union instituted the so-called “one-and-done” rule mandating that players had to be 19 years old and a year removed from their high school graduation class in order to enter the draft.

While this year’s NBA Draft is considered to be “historically weak” by various NBA executives, the 2014 draft is projected to be especially strong because it will likely feature current high school seniors Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle, Andrew and Aaron Harrison, Jabari Parker and Aaron Gordon.

But what if those players were all allowed to come out this year, the way King James did?

How would the 2013 NBA Draft lottery look if all those players could jump directly from the preps to the pros?

Various NBA executives agree that the 2014 class is so loaded, several could make an immediate impact, with the 6-foot-8 Wiggins at the top of the list.

“Wiggins would be the best rookie this year, never mind next year,” one Western Conference NBA GM told SheridanHoops.com.

But even after Wiggins, several other 2014 standouts could end up being household names down the line.

“Wiggins, Andrew Harrison, Randle and Parker have the potential to be perennial All-Stars,” one veteran NBA scout said.

We asked the GM and two NBA scouts to project what a 2013 NBA Draft lottery might look like if the 2014 players were eligible to come out.

All three agreed Wiggins would be the No. 1 overall pick. Two of the three experts slotted 2013 Kentucky big man Nerlens Noel in at the No. 2 overall slot behind Wiggins. And all three had three of the 2014s among their top five picks in such a hypothetical 2013 Draft.

Here’s how the lottery would break down:

WEST COAST NBA GM:

1. Andrew Wiggins – The 6-8 Wiggins is undecided on his college but recently sounded as if he’d love to join Randle, the Harrison twins and three other McDonald’s All-Americans in Kentucky’s 2013 recruiting class.

He’s also considering Florida State, Kansas and North Carolina.





2. Julius Randle — The 6-9 Randle is the most recent Mickey D’s All-American to pledge to Kentucky.

In August 2012, Randle won the Under Armour Elite 24 dunk Contest, and the next day he was named one of the MVPs of the Elite 24 game, where he scored 27 points and led his team to a 164-138 victory.

The weekend after Thanksgiving in his senior season, Randle fractured his foot playing in a tournament and missed three months as a result. In March, Randle returned for the TAPPS 5A playoffs and led his team to its third state title in four years.


3. Aaron Gordon — The Blake Griffin clone pledged to Arizona on Tuesday, choosing Sean Miller’s club over Kentucky, Oregon and Washington.

“It’s an absolutely outstanding fit for me — 7-footer, two large four men,” Gordon told the Mercury News. “They’re long, athletic, get up and down the floor. ”They also have a point guard with T.J. McConnell, and they also have Nick Johnson who can guard anywhere. So with three long defensive players on the wings, I think we’re going to be a hard team to score on.”



4. Andrew HarrisonThe 6-5 point guard and his twin brother pledged to Kentucky in October; Andrew is projected as the top point guard in the 2014 draft class.

I wrote about the Harrison twins in this Top Five Recruiting Classes piece for SheridanHoops.com earlier this year. Even if they do not get Wiggins, Kentucky and coach John Calipari will NOT be going out in the first round of the NIT tournament as they did this year.



5. Nerlens Noel — Despite tearing his ACL this past season at Kentucky, the 6-10 Noel is still projected by many as the No. 1 pick in this year’s draft.

Colleague Joe Kotoch has him as the overall No. 1 pick in Mock Draft 1.0 on SheridanHoops.com, which lists players 1 through 30 and was published yesterday.

Question: Does he become the first player to use crutches to walk onstage when his name is called by Commissioner David Stern on draft night?



6. Dante Exum — The 17-year-old Australian combo guard is projected to go No. 8 in the 2014 Draft by DraftExpress.com.

UK committed Karl Towns Jr. (Dominican Republic), Wiggins (Canada) and 2014 Indiana University target Exum were among 10 international players announced as members of the World Select Team that will play in next month’s Nike Hoop Summit.

The World team will face the U.S. Men’s Junior National Select Team on April 20 in Portland, Ore.



7. Jabari Parker — The 6-8 Duke-bound wing has impressed this week at the McDonald’s practices, getting a 57 out of 60 from the judges for this dunk. He is the only two-time Illinois Mr. Basketball.





From the Chicago Tribune: “Parker had perhaps the best showing of any player on the West squad during the morning practice (at the McDonald’s tournament), connecting from deep and mid-range, scoring in the post and off the dribble and dunking powerfully in transition. ”I did all right,” Parker said. “I’m getting better chemistry with my teammates. I don’t want to be that guy who burns bridges before the game, so I’ve got to be nice to the point guards.”



8. Ben McLemore — The 6-5 Kansas shooting guard could go as high as No. 1 or 2 this year.

From Kotoch, who has him No. 3 on the Big Board in Mock 1.0: “Unfortunately, McLemore failed to deliver the March performance many expected, or at the very least, hoped for. After a nightmare first week, McLemore rebounded to have a nice performance against Michigan in an overtime loss. McLemore is a great complementary scorer but never showed the dominance to be an alpha dog.

“In my opinion, McLemore is the top player on the second tier of this draft class.”



9. Aaron Harrison — A 6-5 shooting guard, Harrison will share time in a loaded backcourt at Kentucky next season.

We recommend a clickthrough to this story by Adam Himmelsbach of the Louisville Courier-Journal: “Aaron and Andrew don’t have other siblings, but they recently assumed the role of big brothers after their aunt, Sheryl, died in Baltimore following a long battle with cancer. After she died, the Harrison family took in her two teenage sons, Khalil and Hakeem Butler, who moved from Maryland and enrolled at Travis High School in Richmond, Texas.”



10. Marcus Smart — The Oklahoma State freshman point guard is considered among the best point guards in the 2013 group, along with Michigan’s Trey Burke and Syracuse’s Michael Carter-Williams.

Kotoch has him at No. 2, but that’s OK. We speak with many voices here at SheridanHoops.com



11. Noah VonlehThe 6-9 Indiana-bound power forward is projected as a one-and-done and has a huge ceiling.



12. Anthony Bennett — The 6-5 UNLV freshman just announced Monday that he will enter the draft.

He will be a lottery pick this year, and he will be a member of the next second-tier international powerhouse, Team Canada, whose 2016 Rio lineup could include Bennett, Wiggins, Tristan Thompson, Robert Sacre, Andrew Nicholson and Kelly Olynyk, currently No. 16 on Kotoch’s Top 30 Mock 1.0.



13. Otto Porter Jr. — Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim called the 6-8 Georgetown star the best small forward in the history of the Big East. And yes, that includes Carmelo Anthony.



14. Victor Oladipo — An athletic dynamo, Oladipo outshined his teammate, Cody Zeller, for much of this season while leading Indiana to the No. 1 ranking for much of this season. He is still undecided on his immediate future.

Kotoch and others on the staff have been high on Oladipo, too.

It is not often that a defensive player is drafted in the lottery unless he is 7-feet tall, but true NBA chanpionship contender has one terrific on-the-ball defender.

For the Mock Lottery picks of two NBA scouts, keep reading …

NBA SCOUT NO. 1:

1. Andrew Wiggins
2. Nerlens Noel
3. Ben McLemore
4. Julius Randle
5. Andrew Harrison
6. Jabari Parker
7. Anthony Bennett
8. Otto Porter
9. Victor Oladipo
10. Cody Zeller
11. Shabazz Muhammad
12. Trey Burke
13. Michael Carter-Williams
14. Marcus Smart

NBA SCOUT NO. 2:

1. Andrew Wiggins
2. Nerlens Noel
3. Jabari Parker
4. Julius Randle
5. Ben McLemore
6. Marcus Smart
7. Aaron Gordon
8. Otto Porter
9. Andrew Harrison
10. Cody Zeller
11. Anthony Bennett
12. Alex Len
13. C.J. McCollum
14. Trey Burke
 
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[COLOR=#red]Slander??? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin. No homie, it's called calling what it is. Don't be so butt hurt.

Oh and remember it's more than about Peyton Siva...somehow you are forgetting Russ Smith...yeah the same Russ Smith who found a way to average 17ppg against the same Syracuse D that Burke faced as they won 2 out of 3 games against the Orangemen.[/COLOR]

Who's hurt my guy? You're the one doing the most trying to defend your point here and bringing up irrelevant Chris Paul comparisons and trying to question his "passion and heart" off of one game. Where were you after the Kansas game? Also Russ Smith has played against that Syracuse zone his whole Career including 3 times this season, Burke who is more talented than him would have no problem putting up numbers like that if he had the same exposure. Even though Smith had 21 he was super inefficient, terrible from the line and struggled against Wichita State's defensive pressure. He's played great in the tournament but they have yet to face a a backcourt/team as offensively sound as Michigan.
 
Who's hurt my guy? You're the one doing the most trying to defend your point here and bringing up irrelevant Chris Paul comparisons and trying to question his "passion and heart" off of one game. Where were you after the Kansas game? Also Russ Smith has played against that Syracuse zone his whole Career including 3 times this season, Burke who is more talented than him would have no problem putting up numbers like that if he had the same exposure. Even though Smith had 21 he was super inefficient, terrible from the line and struggled against Wichita State's defensive pressure. He's played great in the tournament but they have yet to face a a backcourt/team as offensively sound as Michigan.

[COLOR=#red]I apologize for "slandering" your dude :lol...but what I said about the game he played is pretty much spot on and I'm not nearly the only one who feels the same way. Luckily his teammates stepped up and rose to the occasion and UM won...which I'm happy because I'm pretty much a Michigan fan. As far as Russ Smith goes, I'm not saying he's better than Burke, just saying he has been pretty effective against SU's zone pretty much his whole career at Louisville, as a counterpoint to people saying guards can't do anything against the 2-3 making excuses for Burke. Why can't y'all just admit there are some holes in the man's game? Caping for dude big-time.[/COLOR]
 
LOL, thats fine If you want to stick to intangible nonsense to examine the game thats fine, Ill just stick to the actual x and o's.

If you mistake having to run a completely different offense, as lacking passion or intensity thats your problem.


Come tournament time this thread becomes infested with ignorance. :{
 
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No team in the NBA plays that BS zone that Syracuse plays, so i'm not too worried about Trey being "exposed."

It forces you to pass and no college PG this year or next year will carve up their zone by himself.
 
No team in the NBA plays that BS zone that Syracuse plays, so i'm not too worried about Trey being "exposed."

It forces you to pass and no college PG this year or next year will carve up their zone by himself.

Nah tho, its was his "passion" that prevented him from playing against that 2-3, if only he had more "intensity" then he could penetrate that 2-3 that is built specifically to stop penetration. :rolleyes
 
I thought it was odd that Trey didn't try to penetrate more but they had a good plan with getting Mitch the ball at the elbow/free throw. I don't if Syracuse adjusted to it or if they just went away from it but when they weren't getting it to Mitch they struggled. I was surprised how much we struggled against their press and we started to burn clock way too early.
 
Michigan's spacing last night was pretty bad too. Actually the spacing on most college teams I've watched this year is pretty bad :lol
 
Look around and none of the regulars are in here. I swear though if someone gets this **** locked though after 4000+ pages and 6 years im gonna be pissed
 
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Look around and none of the regulars are in here. I swear though if someone gets this **** locked though after 4000+ pages and 6 years im gonna be pissed

Word. Dudes arguing about the dumbest stuff
 
Someone was supposed to start a tourney thread, or at least an Elite Eight thread, but they didn't, so everyone came here.

At least that's why I did.
 
Some posters care more about arguing the same point ad nauseam regardless of the thread.
 
Need the clowns to leave and only have the regulars...

Dude's going on and on about stuff they know nothing about :{
 
The Kevin Ware injury took it overboard for me. |I

I still lurk to see whether the conversation is back on track though.
 
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