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And this nut is from Shaolin?
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Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Dre fiendin' somethin serious...
Yall dudes $%%# with Facebook like that?
Why not? It has its perks....
langfor5
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Completely gave that game away. We showed our in-experience down the stretch and Sherron can't miss two foul shots. There is no excuse for that. All inall, really I am pretty happy with the play of our team today. Take away the last four minutes of this game and we win by double digits. Either way, thatMizzou team is gonna catch a BEAT DOWN when they come to Lawrence. I will guarantee that.
Oh and you can't have 27 turnovers and expect to win a game. That is horrible. Our freshman make some of the dumbest plays ever. I hope I never see eitherMorris Twin start again.
Oh and you can't have 27 turnovers and expect to win a game. That is horrible. Our freshman make some of the dumbest plays ever. I hope I never see eitherMorris Twin start again.
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Great game, but once again, I didn't come away impressed with either team really. Kansas has shaky guard play and Mizzou doesn't have much depth sizewise.
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M-I-Z
Z-O-U!!!!
ive been tellin yall this. look back in this thread and every post ive made, ive tried to make ppl aware. were NOT playing around this year.
sweet 16 bound for sure.
my whole block is goin nuts right now.
LETS GO!!!
Z-O-U!!!!
ive been tellin yall this. look back in this thread and every post ive made, ive tried to make ppl aware. were NOT playing around this year.
sweet 16 bound for sure.
my whole block is goin nuts right now.
LETS GO!!!
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I'll be damned if Danny Glover and his merry band of miscreants didn't steal one from us at Page Arena. A man by the name of Mike Anderson does notexist you know. The name "Mike Anderson" is just a cover so Danny Glover's legions of fans do not overrun Page Arena with requests forautographed copies of Lethal Weapon IV on game nights.
Proof?
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COME ON RIGGS THAT WAS A HORRIBLE CALL? ARE THERE REALLY ANGELS IN THE OUTFIELD?
Enjoy this one tiamishu, we'll beat MU by 15+ in Lawrence......STILL 2nd in the conference!
Proof?
COME ON RIGGS THAT WAS A HORRIBLE CALL? ARE THERE REALLY ANGELS IN THE OUTFIELD?
Enjoy this one tiamishu, we'll beat MU by 15+ in Lawrence......STILL 2nd in the conference!
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What the #@$@?
Where is that quote from SCuse?
Sounds like Superhead triflin %*%.
Where is that quote from SCuse?
Sounds like Superhead triflin %*%.
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Where you at man?
Agreed. Also, the ref on that "5" count - SMH
That game in Lawrence will be VERY interesting.
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None of those girls want part of you country *$! Dre.
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Hol on... If my memory serves me correct....
Isn't this the broad who you were G'n saying that you were a producer/manager for some act who just got signed to a major label???
Broad was going until she found out it was all fallacies???
Isn't this the broad who you were G'n saying that you were a producer/manager for some act who just got signed to a major label???
Broad was going until she found out it was all fallacies???
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We deserve to lose to Mizzou, but honestly, we gave it away with dumb fouls, stupid turnovers, and not hitting free throws down the stretch. As much as Ihate them and hate to say that, we have been throwin' games away in the second half/not finishing well at all. They cut the lead to 4, then 2, then tied,then got a lucky shot to fall (yes luck, that shot was about to roll off the rim and decided to take a dive the other direction). But to each is own, time tolearn from this and move on. Trust me though, it'll be quite a show for these fools to come to the Phog and play. And when a win occurs, we won't rushthe floor, believe that. Mizzou sweet 16 bound?
We'll see.
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Who me?
nah, My guy tried lying his #%% off to her about rap, and almost got it until she found out he was lyin
he's on here tho, too. he musta told the story
nah, My guy tried lying his #%% off to her about rap, and almost got it until she found out he was lyin
he's on here tho, too. he musta told the story
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she bad though...at least in that pic....
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sweet 16 bound for sure.
slow down.
You guys are playing well this year - but that's like your second meaningful win this year, against a rebuilding KU team. Put it in check a bit.
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Jason Kidd (Newport News, VA) [via mobile]: Will mid-majors be overlooked by the NCAA selection committee based on the strength and parity of the major conference programs?
Andy Katz: Not overlooked. They will get in if they have the body of work. Not many do this season. That's why there will likely be a record low number of teams out of the mid-majors.
Steiny (NYC): Why has Devan Dumes been suspended?
Andy Katz: For a flagrant elbow. Big Ten teams are cracking down on this behavior.
Kellen (Boston): Tulsa barely lost to Memphis last time they played in Tulsa. Does TU have a decent chance to get the win this time @ Memphis?
Andy Katz: Sure. Memphis is not a mortal lock at FedEx. The Tigers could be primed to be beaten after the West Coast trip to Spokane. I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised.
john (spokane, wa): Do you think that Washington State can be a fixture in the NCAA tourny the next couple year with the 9 freshman they have this year.
Andy Katz: The Pac-10 is in flux, outside of UCLA. So I wouldn't be surprised if WSU can be a consistent player for a bid. The Cougs will likely fall short this season. But the future is certainly bright with Klay Thompson.
Mike (South Orange, NJ): Is the issue with the Big East right now the teams like Georgetown, Syracuse, and Notre Dame are considerable worse than expected or that teams like Providence and Cincinnati are better than expected? Every extra unexpected win for these surprising teams takes one away from an expected tournament team.
Andy Katz: I would say Syracuse's injuries are an issue and so is its porous defense, Gtown is struggling to score and is young and Notre Dame isn't defending. Providence and Cincinnati are performing as expected. Neither has stood up and taken down one of the elite teams yet. We, maybe I, probably put ND and Gtown on a pedastal too early in the season.
Seth (Madison, WI): In a past chat, you said Wisconsin was likely out of the NCAA tournament unless they won the Big Ten tournament. Do you still feel that way, even after their two wins this past week? What does Bucky have to do to get in?
Andy Katz: I put them to rest too early. Wisconsin does have a pulse after the wins over Illinois and Penn State. The Badgers havfe a favorable schedule down the stretch and if they win the right games they can get a bid.
Jon (Swampscott, MA): Andy, any chance for my BC Eagles to get into the dance? They have a pretty good resume
Andy Katz: It may come down to these next three home games: Clemson, Duke and Florida State. Win two and they're a lock. Win one and they may sweat it out, lose three and they're in trouble.
Jonathan ( San Diego CA): What?s your take on the MWC? Do you think SDSU can win the conference if they beat Utah on Wednesday night?
Andy Katz: Joe Lunardi had four teams in from the MWC. I'm not sure I would go that far. Utah has the best shot of any team with its best overall body of work. UNLV, San Diego State and BYU might need to finish first or second to have a shot. But three isn't out of the question. I find it hard to put all four in the field.
Tommy (ATL): Assuming Xaiver wins the A-10 Tournament. Could this end up being a 1 bid conference?
Andy Katz: Yes. Dayton has the next best shot. Splitting with Xavier would be imperative for the Flyers. The win over Marquette certainly helps the resume.
Erik (Champaign): Andy, Who would you say is the front-runner for Big Ten Coach of the Year?
Andy Katz: I would put Bruce Weber first. Ed DeChellis had a shot a few weeks ago.
Tarr (Orlando): You think Wake Forest can cut down the nets?
Andy Katz: Will they? Probably not.
Can they? Yes. Wake Forest has the scorers and as long as it defends then it has a shot.
John (Dallas): Andy, thoughts on the UCLA since Howland has put them in overdrive, can they get a 1 or at least a 2 seed?
Andy Katz: I could see a scenario where UCLA gets a No. 2 if it wins out. I don't see one where it gets a No. 1.
Chris (Boston): Andy, if Siena beats NIU but loses the MAAC, do they make it as an at large?
Andy Katz: Probably not.
Mike: (Storrs, CT): If you had to pick a team right now to cut down the nets in Detroit who would it be?
Andy Katz: North Carolina
Pitt
Oklahoma
Connecticut
Adam (Connecticut): Can Uconn pull of the dual national championship again this year?
Andy Katz: Yes. I don't see the women losing a game. Connecticut obvioiusly will have a tougher slate.
James -- Philadelphia: When are folks going to realize that Villanova is for real? I've seen folks use the word "overachieving" to characterize Villanova several times this past week. What gives? This is the same team went to the Sweet 16 last year. If anything, folks should be saying that Villanova is finally playing up to its potential.
Andy Katz: I was one of those people. But Villanova is playing extremely well at this point and deserves all the praise it's receiving.
Frank (Worthington, TX): Princeton beat Harvard, Harvard beat Boston College, Boston College beat North Carolina. If the season ended today, North Carolina would be a 1 seed and Princeton would be a 16. Not saying that Princeton would beat North Carolina, but it seems the reality of a 16 knocking off a 1 is getting closer. Do you think this will ever happen or will the 1 seed always be just good enough to never lose?
Andy Katz: It will happen someday. Don't see it happening this season.
Tommy (ATL): Who is your suprise team(s) so far this season? Mine would have to be University of Cincinnati.
Andy Katz: Good choice. But I would say Butler. I didn't think the Bulldogs would be this good after losing senior leadership on the perimeter.
Mike, Philly: Andy, how far will Georgetown's win over #1 UConn carry them come selection Sunday when the Committee matches-up their resume with the likes of Arizona, Kansas State, and even Texas?
Andy Katz: It will help. That's why I think Gtown is the only Big East team that could get in as a sub .500 team. The win over Memphis and Connecticut will help if the Hoyas can win enough games down the stretch.
J.B. (Dunmore, PA): Would Penn State have made your list of most surprising teams had they not dropped their last two?
Andy Katz: Yes. But I wouldn't rule out another Penn State revival down the stretch.
Thanks for the questions this week. Pat Forde will be here later today.
Hoops schools vs. non-hoops schools
By Pat Forde
ESPN.com
Forty names, games, teams and minutiae making A-Rod-free news in college basketball (elbow pads [1] sold separately): [h3]Are You Fan Enough?[/h3]Two recent attendance-related items have caught The Minutes' eye. The first was the sight of Indiana (2) players and coaches engaging in a virtual group hug with the crowd of 14,247 in Assembly Hall after (finally) winning a Big Ten game last week against Iowa. The second was the news that Arizona State (3) is hoping to draw more than 11,000 fans for the first time this season when UCLA comes to Tempe on Thursday.You read that right. The Hoosiers are 6-16, enduring what might be the worst season in school history -- and easily outdrawing the 18th-ranked, 18-5 Sun Devils. This is what's known as the difference between a basketball school and a non-basketball school. At Indiana, the winning percentage is .273 this season, but the gym is full to 79.8 percent capacity (average attendance is 13,933). The fans are overachieving. At Arizona State, the winning percentage is .783, but 14,198-seat Wells Fargo Arena has been only 58.2 percent full. The fans are missing out on a good show from coach Herb Sendek, James Harden & Co. Ticket sales are brisk enough at Indiana that they're almost completely sold out for the Hoosiers' Sunday game against Illinois. "To be where we're at and to get this kind of support, it's hard to believe," Indiana coach Tom Crean (4) said. "This really does show that Indiana is a separated program in the country. It just blows me away and blows our coaching staff away, and hopefully it blows our players away." Ticket sales are soft enough at ASU that the school's athletic Web site is using Valentine's Day as a marketing tool. "Surprise a loved one with tickets to a Sun Devil men's basketball game!" says the large headline on the site, listing the Thursday-Saturday visits from the Bruins and USC. With that in mind, The Minutes decided to perform an unscientific check of the fan-support barometer at 15 other schools, almost all of which are enjoying tremendous seasons. The schools are ranked by the difference between attendance percentage and winning percentage (through Sunday's games). (Caveat: The Minutes used listed arena capacities. Some schools routinely exceed listed capacity, which is annoying and contradicts the very idea of a listed capacity, but the numbers are the numbers.) (Caveat II: Some schools list tickets sold, some list actual butts in seats. The Minutes has no ironclad way of knowing who is fudging their figures and who is playing it straight.) (Caveat III: The Minutes doesn't care whether your team's attendance was hurt by playing a home game in an ice storm or in any other kind of weather-related difficulty. Or whether the big archrival hasn't yet come to town. Or whether your team uses an NBA arena that is too big for its fan base. Or whether it plays in a crackerbox. To repeat: The numbers are the numbers, interpret them as you wish.)
The list, ranked best to worst:
Kentucky (5). Team performance: 16-7 record, .696 winning percentage. Fan performance: 22,655 average attendance, 98.5 percent of capacity at Rupp Arena. Difference: plus .289.
Louisville (6). Team performance: 18-4 record, .818 winning percentage. Fan performance: 19,337 average attendance, 102.5 percent of capacity at Freedom Hall. Difference: plus .207.
Kansas (7). Team performance: 19-4, .826 winning percentage. Fan performance: 16,363 average attendance, 100.39 percent of capacity at Allen Fieldhouse. Difference: plus .174.
Michigan State (. Team performance: 19-4, .826 winning percentage. Fan performance: 14,759 average attendance, 100 percent of capacity at the Breslin Center. Difference: plus .174.
Duke (9). Team performance: 20-3, .870 winning percentage. Fan performance: 9,314 average attendance, 100 percent of capacity at Cameron Indoor Stadium. Difference: plus .130.
Memphis (10). Team performance: 20-3, .870 winning percentage. Fan performance: 17,562 average attendance, 96.7 percent of capacity at the FedEx Forum. Difference: plus .097.
North Carolina (11). Team performance: 21-2, .913 winning percentage. Fan performance: 20,922 average attendance, 96.2 percent of capacity at the Dean E. Smith Center. Difference: plus .049.
Connecticut (12) at Gampel Pavilion. Team performance, 22-1, .957 winning percentage. Fan performance: 10,011 average attendance in five games, 99.8 percent of capacity. Difference: plus .041.
Clemson (13). Team performance: 19-3, .864 winning percentage. Fan performance: 8,311 average attendance, 85.3 percent of capacity at Littlejohn Coliseum. Difference: minus .011.
Oklahoma (14). Team performance: 23-1, .958 winning percentage. Fan performance: 11,212 average attendance, 93.4 percent of capacity at Lloyd Noble Arena. Difference: minus .024.
UCLA (15). Team performance: 19-4, .826 winning percentage. Fan performance: 9,593 average attendance, 74.8 percent of capacity at Pauley Pavilion. Difference: minus .078.
LSU (16). Team performance: 19-4, .826 winning percentage. Fan performance: 9,979 average attendance, 73.3 percent of capacity at the Pete Maravich Assembly Center. Difference: minus .093. Connecticut at XL Center. Team performance: 22-1, .957 winning percentage. Fan performance: 14,021 average attendance in seven games, 86.1 percent of capacity. Difference: minus .096. Florida State (17). Team performance: 18-5, .783 winning percentage. Fan performance: 7,334 average attendance, 56.4 percent of capacity at the Tallahassee-Leon County Civic Center. Difference: minus .119.
Penn State (1. Team performance: 17-7, .708 winning percentage. Fan performance: 7,195 average attendance, 47.2 percent of capacity at the Bryce-Jordan Center. Difference: minus .236.
Missouri (19). Team performance: 20-4, .833 winning percentage. Fan performance: 8,321 average attendance, 55.3 percent of capacity at Mizzou Arena. Difference: minus .280. [h3]When Do They Hand Out Helmets?[/h3]In a season that has been blissfully short on major knee injuries (knock on Wooden), that doesn't mean it's been an especially safe year in college basketball. To the contrary, in some areas.It's no secret that basketball players are stronger than ever, many of them using the weight room to morph into adequate body doubles for strong safeties or defensive ends. But with football size come football collisions. When players run into each other these days, it hurts. Arizona State point guard Derek Glasser (20) was violently whiplashed Thursday night by a back screen he never saw coming from Oregon wide-body Joevan Catron (21). Glasser, who was just coming off a concussion, lay on the court for several minutes. He was helped off and missed the Sun Devils' next game, against Oregon State, with a bruised neck. (ASU spokesman Doug Tammaro said Monday that Glasser is day-to-day but expected to be back when the Devils play UCLA -- tickets available.) If you want to blame anybody for what happened, it should be Glasser's teammates, who apparently failed to call the screen and got him blindsided. But the point is that increasingly large and muscular players are colliding with greater force and velocity in the same confined area. Quite simply, the game seems to have become more dangerous. Way back in November, Kentucky's Ramon Harris (22) laid out North Carolina's Tyler Zeller (23) with a breakaway-stopping foul at the rim. The force of the foul sent Zeller flying and ultimately broke his wrist when he hit the floor. Zeller hasn't played since, and might not return to the floor this season. A couple of weeks later, Harris himself had a head-to-head collision with teammate Michael Porter going for a loose ball against Lamar -- a smash-up so violent that Porter needed stitches and Harris left Rupp Arena on a stretcher, subsequently missing five games. Both Catron's screen of Glasser and Harris' foul of Zeller appeared to be completely clean. But both plays occurred late in games when the injured player's team was well ahead and in control. More recently, Purdue point guard Lewis Jackson (24) missed a game with a concussion suffered when he was hammered by a similar screen from Wisconsin's Joe Krabbenhoft -- except there was nothing clean about that screen. Krabbenhoft appeared to very deliberately deliver an ejection-worthy blow with his forearm/elbow that somehow was not whistled by the officials.Not only are the players bigger, they might be angrier, too. Elbows are flying with hockey-match frequency, in search of an opponent's face -- or groin. Michigan (25) had two players tossed in consecutive games last week for throwing 'bows, after Zack Novak nailed P.J. Hill of Ohio State late in a blowout loss, and Manny Harris broke the nose of Purdue's Chris Kramer. Now Indiana has indefinitely suspended Devan Dumes (26) after he nailed Michigan State's Goran Suton in the groin with one elbow and swung for the face of Tom Herzog with another -- also in a lopsided defeat for the perpetrator's team. "As soon as I saw the clip where he elbowed Suton, [a suspension] had to be done," Crean said. "That's not what we're doing here." (The Big Ten office chimed in by supporting Indiana's suspension and reprimanding Dumes for "unsportslike" behavior that violated the league's "Sportslike Conduct Agreement." Which seems to be a Herculean effort to twist commonly accepted verbiage in the name of gender neutrality.) The Big Ten is either running amok with cheap play, or is simply more forthright about calling out and penalizing its elbowers than other leagues. Some insiders say you could find a dangerously thrown elbow in nearly every Big East game if the officials chose to look for it -- and, ill-intentioned or not, UConn center Hasheem Thabeet was whistled for elbowing Saturday against none other than Michigan. The Minutes has been impressed by the diligence and high profile of the NCAA's new coordinator of officials, John Adams. He's been all over the country this season, watching games in person and taking notes. Hopefully he and the zebras can find ways to take some of the high-impact collisions out of basketball. [h3]Streaking Down The Stretch[/h3]At some point in time, we doubted every one of the teams on this list. But over the past few weeks, they've been busy burying those doubts beneath a mounting pile of victories, and with the help of at least one thriving senior:
Missouri (27) -- In Mike Anderson's third year in Columbia, he has assembled a team that plays his way -- namely, as hard as any in America. The Tigers' fatigue-inducing pressure (why don't more teams play this way?) wilted defending national titlist Kansas on Monday night. Just as it wilted Texas in Austin five days earlier. Mizzou is now 8-2 in the Big 12 and has won four straight -- and in the process it has outscored its last four opponents by a combined 49 points in the second half. Senior: DeMarre Carroll, averaging 22.8 points and 7.3 rebounds during four-game streak. Memphis -- The Tigers have won 14 straight, 12 of them blowouts. But beating up on Conference USA is one thing. Going to Spokane on Saturday and backhanding Gonzaga for 40 minutes says something else. Namely, it says that the Tigers refuse to step back from their three-year run of 30-win seasons, and refuse to be counted out from the 2009 national title chase despite major personnel losses from last year. Senior: Antonio Anderson, a team-first defensive stopper who stands alongside Louisville's Terrence Williams and Duke's Greg Paulus as seniors who care a whole lot less about points than they do about wins. North Carolina -- The Tar Heels have won seven straight by an average of 16 points a game. That two-game wobble, losing to Boston College and Wake Forest? Seems like ancient history now as the Heels roar into Cameron Indoor for a game of some interest Wednesday night. Seniors: Tyler Hansbrough -- whose very active feet will be watched closely by Dookies on Wednesday night -- and Danny Green are a prominent half of Carolina's Big Four, along with juniors Ty Lawson and Wayne Ellington.
Villanova (2
Kansas State (29) -- The Wildcats are on a five-game winning streak and are growing up in the process. They were 0-3 in games decided by five points or less heading into January; they're 3-0 since then in close games. This has been a team of wild mood swings (win five, lose three, win six, lose four, currently on five-game roll), but the Wildcats are playing well at just the right time. Senior: center Darren Kent, who scored 104 points total in his first three years of college and has nearly doubled that (202 points) this year. [h3]Stumbling Down The Stretch[/h3]These are teams that at one point in time were ranked in the top 10 or led their conferences or both. Whether it's a confidence crisis, a chemistry failure or something else, they're now trying to figure out how it's come to this:The Big East threesome of Notre Dame (30), Georgetown (31) and Syracuse (32) -- The Fighting Irish have lost seven straight, bottoming out in a 26-point loss at UCLA on Saturday. The Hoyas have lost five of their last six -- including a sweep at the hands of middling Cincinnati. The Orange, by comparison, have tenaciously won two of their last seven and one of their last five -- but also surrendered 100 points to Providence and 102 to Villanova in their last three outings. Next up is a game at Connecticut, which looks like a fourth double-digit road beatdown in league play.
Texas (33) -- The Longhorns have lost three straight by a total of 11 points, two of them at home. They're now 2-6 on the season in games decided by six points or less, pointing out the deficiency in point-guard play that has been an issue since D.J. Augustin left early for the NBA. Kentucky -- If the Wildcats lose Tuesday in Rupp Arena to Florida, they'll have their first three-game SEC home losing streak ever. But then again, they've only been in the league since it was formed in 1933.
Tennessee (34) -- The Volunteers have lost three of five and six of 11. That's not terrible, you say? Well, think of the league they're doing it in. If you can't get on a roll in the SEC, how good can you be? "It's been a difficult year," said associate coach Tony Jones. "We've gone through every approach -- the positive approach, getting into them, a mixture of the two." So far, nothing has had a lasting effect.
Saint Mary's (35) -- There might be a team more dependent on a single player (OK, Davidson), but not many. When extraordinary point guard Patty Mills went down with a broken right hand, so did the Gaels. They've lost three of their last four, including an 18-point wipeout at the hands of a Santa Clara team that is 13-13. The only victory was over 9-15 San Francisco. If Mills doesn't come back, neither does Saint Mary's. [h3]Plodding Down The Stretch[/h3]In the Big Ten (36), slow is beautiful. Once February arrives, the pace of play grinds to a predictable halt. In the last nine league games this weekend, the losing team has scored 60 or fewer every time. Four times the loser wound up in the 40s. And don't forget Illinois' immortal 36-point effort at Minnesota on Jan. 29. [h3]Minutes Man[/h3]The Minutes loves players who love to play, and last week nobody loved playing more than Saint Louis guard Kevin Lisch (37). He logged 92 minutes in two games -- 52 on Sunday in a triple overtime win over Richmond, and 40 on Wednesday in an OT win over Duquesne. Lisch averaged 24 points and 6.5 rebounds in the two victories. In fact, he might be the most-played guy in the country over the course of his career. Lisch has averaged at least 30 minutes per game for four straight years, maxing out at 35.2 per game this season. He's logged more than 3,750 minutes of court time as a Billiken. [h3]Road Trip Packing Tips[/h3]The Associated Press reports that New Mexico State freshman guard Terrance Joyner (3
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Should be a good one tonight between UofM and msu. I think UofM can win but they will have to play better than they did against uconn. We're gonna need biggames out of both Harris and Sims. I think raymar morgan is out too so thats a big plus.
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Florida @ Rupp tonight...i'll be there.
i can't remember the last time we lost 4 in a row.
i can't remember the last time we lost 4 in a row.
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I got Villanova over Quette tonight and Kentucky over Florida. MSU over Mich.
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Michigan over MSU at home.
Nova @ home
Clemson over BC on the road
Nova @ home
Clemson over BC on the road
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Other Hoop Thoughts
Seth Davis's Mailbag
• Whenever anyone talks about Memphis' conference, it's always couched in a question of whether playing such inferior competition hurts the Tigers'preparation for the NCAA tournament. This year is a great example of how playing in Conference USA helps. While the Marquettes and Clemsons of the world areslugging it out every night, Memphis gets to coast a little bit, which saves the players' legs and minds for the tourney. It also gives John Calipari achance to tinker. Would he have gambled by moving Tyreke Evans to the point if he were worried about going on a four-game losing streak?
• On the flip side, it looks like a worst-case scenario is developing in the Big East. You can talk all you want about how hard this conference is, but at somepoint, teams have to win games to get to the tournament. That's why all the chatter about the Big East getting 10 teams into the NCAA tournament isfar-fetched -- just as the talk now about the ACC getting eight is far-fetched. It's just too hard to send two-thirds of your conference to the tournament.
• A small handful of nonconference games always loom large on Selection Sunday. Exhibit A is BYU's one-point loss to Arizona State on Dec. 20. Remember,that was the game when officials ruled BYU's apparent game-winning basket no good based on what they saw on a replay monitor -- a questionable judgment inmy view. If BYU (which is 5-3 in the Mountain West, 16-5 overall) fails to earn an at-large bid, that game could be the difference.
• The CAA is waging a fascinating three-way contest between Northeastern, VCU and George Mason for the regular season title, but I don't see any of thoseteams earning at-large bids. I think the most dangerous one of the three is VCU. There aren't too many mid-major teams with two bona fide NBA players (EricMaynor and Larry Sanders).
• Big road swing for USC this weekend at Arizona and Arizona State. The Trojans swept those schools in L.A. but they need to at least come away with a split toshow they can beat good teams on the road.
• Villanova's Dante Cunningham might be the most improved player in the country -- not just since last season, but even since the beginning of this season.The 6-8 senior forward's scoring average has gone up every year, from 2.2 to 8.7 to 10.4 to 17.1 this season. His rebounding and field goal percentagenumbers have likewise climbed (now at 7.4 and 56.9 percent, respectively). Cunningham turned in his best performance of the season Saturday when he hung 31points and 10 rebounds on Syracuse.
• You can talk about Gonzaga's frontcourt size all you want, but the bottom line is, neither Austin Daye nor Josh Heytvelt, who are both 6-11, like to postup. It doesn't do you much good to be that tall if you insist on playing like a two guard.
• Oklahoma point guard Austin Johnson is ranked seventh in the nation in assist-to-turnover ratio at 2.92-to-1. Just making sure you knew.
• UNLV is going to be another tough call for the Selection Committee. Yes, the Rebels have solid nonconference wins over Arizona and Louisville and they won atBYU, but they're also sitting at 5-4 in the Mountain West. I've seen some bracket projections showing this conference getting four teams in, but Ithink there's a better chance they'll get two than four. Keep in mind that the Mountain West Conference tournament is played every year in Las Vegas.That isn't fair from a competitive standpoint, but I guess it's what's best for the league.
• It pains me to say it, but if Davidson doesn't win the Southern Conference tournament, I don't think the Wildcats can get an at-large bid. It'shard to imagine the tournament without Stephen Curry, but it could very well happen.
• Ole Miss is going to have an awfully tough time making the tournament, but Andy Kennedy has himself some kind of player in Terrico White. The 6-5 freshmanpoint guard from Memphis is a freak athlete who is averaging 20.8 points and 4.0 assists over his last four games.
• You can expect Robbie Hummel to miss another two or three games. Purdue coach Matt Painter told me on Sunday that they are going to sit Hummel until thestress fracture in his back is completely healed. The Boilermakers have yet to win a game without Hummel in the lineup. That's good news for Penn State,which has a chance to build its resume if it can sweep Purdue in West Lafayette on Wednesday. That's as big a bubble game as will be played all week.
• I'm hearing a lot of chatter about how poorly officials administer the traveling call. Well, it's true that when the NCAA evaluated the NCAAtournament last year, traveling was the call that was most often missed. However, what may surprise you is that 60 percent of those mistakes were walks thatwere called but shouldn't have been. So when you hear someone on television say that the problem is that refs miss too many walks that aren't called,actually the opposite is true.
• Here's just about the best idea I've heard in a long, long time: Xavier and Wake Forest announced that next season they will begin a 10-year seriescalled the Skip Prosser Classic. Prosser, of course, coached at both schools. Well done, lads.
• You all may remember reading in this space about DeMarcus Cousins, the 6-9 forward from Mobile, Ala., who refused to sign a Letter of Intent with UAB unlessthe school guaranteed him in writing that he would be released from his commitment if coach Mike Davis took another job. Cousins did not get his writtenguarantee and has since reopened his commitment. However, his camp is putting out the word that if Davis does get another job -- say, at Alabama, Davis'salma mater -- that Cousins will go with him.
From what I'm hearing, however, Davis will have a hard time getting the Alabama job. In the first place, the school just unloaded Mark Gottfried, who isalso an alum, and they are interested in looking "outside the family." Second, Alabama is hoping to make a "home run hire," according toone source. They're willing to pay big bucks for a basketball coach -- not necessarily Saban money, but enough to lure someone like, say, Tubby Smith toTuscaloosa. (That still strikes me as far-fetched, by the way. The more realistic possibility is Missouri's Mike Anderson.)
• Tip of the hat to Saint Joseph's coach Phil Martelli for taping the 100th episode of his weekly show, Hawk Talk. This is hands down the funniest, mostentertaining show in the history of coach's shows. (I know, that's not saying much.)
• Here's an essential basketball truth: If you want your team to be tough, recruit kids from Chicago.
• For the life of me, I cannot understand how Pat Knight avoided being suspended for his out-of-control tirade directed at the refs during Texas Tech'sloss to Nebraska on Jan. 31. I like Knight a lot, but I hope that he understands how inexcusable and embarrassing his behavior was that day. That is simply nothow a grown man should act, especially one who is supposed to be an educator. Let's hope Knight learned from his mistake, because I believe he's atalented coach with a bright future.
• Can we line up all the point guards in America and have one big sprint to see who's the fastest with the ball? My money's on South Carolina'sDevan Downey.
• I hate to go all Gottlieb on you, but you'd have to put Texas forward Connor Atchley on your all-disappointment team. At a time when the Longhorns aredesperate for some perimeter scoring to keep defenses from swarming A.J. Abrams, the 6-10 senior forward is putting up a measly 5.3 points per game on 28.8percent three-point shooting. That's down from 9.5 points and 41.3 percent three-point shooting as a junior.
• You think UConn is a good defensive team? Not only are the Huskies ranked second in the nation in blocks (7.3), fourth in rebound margin (+9.0) and 12th infield goal percentage defense (37.9 percent), they are also ranked first -- yes, first -- in personal fouls per game (12.5).
• It must be a little frustrating for Jamie Dixon that Ashton Gibbs, a 6-2 freshman guard, is leading the Big East in three-point percentge (50.0 percent) buthe is only playing 10.7 minutes per game because he is not a good enough defensive player. If Dixon could take Gibbs' shooting touch and JermaineDixon's defensive ability to create one complete shooting guard, Pitt wouldn't lose another game.
• An NBA scout recently told me that Paul George, a 6-7 freshman swingman who is leading Fresno State in scoring (15.3) and rebounding (6.7), is generatingsome buzz. I caught one of the Bulldogs' games on the tube, and I can see why. George is a pure small forward who can put it on the deck and stroke outsideshots to the tune of 46.0 percent from behind the arc. He's raw, but he is worth following.
• Finally, some of you may remember Trey Schwab, the former assistant coach at Marquette who suffered from a rare lung disease before underdoing a double lungtransplant on Feb. 17, 2004. With the five-year anniversary of his operation approaching, Schwab emailed me to let me know he is still working as the outreachcoordinator at the University of Wisconsin hospital's organ donation program. A few months after his transplant, Schwab met the family of his donor,Stephen Rutherford, a 19-year-old man who had died from a head injury sustained in a construction accident. Because Stephen was a registered donor, more than100 people received transplants from his organs and tissues. It is a great example of how miracles can be generated out of tragedy. For more information on howto become a donor in your state, visit www.donatelife.net.
Seth Davis's Mailbag
• Whenever anyone talks about Memphis' conference, it's always couched in a question of whether playing such inferior competition hurts the Tigers'preparation for the NCAA tournament. This year is a great example of how playing in Conference USA helps. While the Marquettes and Clemsons of the world areslugging it out every night, Memphis gets to coast a little bit, which saves the players' legs and minds for the tourney. It also gives John Calipari achance to tinker. Would he have gambled by moving Tyreke Evans to the point if he were worried about going on a four-game losing streak?
• On the flip side, it looks like a worst-case scenario is developing in the Big East. You can talk all you want about how hard this conference is, but at somepoint, teams have to win games to get to the tournament. That's why all the chatter about the Big East getting 10 teams into the NCAA tournament isfar-fetched -- just as the talk now about the ACC getting eight is far-fetched. It's just too hard to send two-thirds of your conference to the tournament.
• A small handful of nonconference games always loom large on Selection Sunday. Exhibit A is BYU's one-point loss to Arizona State on Dec. 20. Remember,that was the game when officials ruled BYU's apparent game-winning basket no good based on what they saw on a replay monitor -- a questionable judgment inmy view. If BYU (which is 5-3 in the Mountain West, 16-5 overall) fails to earn an at-large bid, that game could be the difference.
• The CAA is waging a fascinating three-way contest between Northeastern, VCU and George Mason for the regular season title, but I don't see any of thoseteams earning at-large bids. I think the most dangerous one of the three is VCU. There aren't too many mid-major teams with two bona fide NBA players (EricMaynor and Larry Sanders).
• Big road swing for USC this weekend at Arizona and Arizona State. The Trojans swept those schools in L.A. but they need to at least come away with a split toshow they can beat good teams on the road.
• Villanova's Dante Cunningham might be the most improved player in the country -- not just since last season, but even since the beginning of this season.The 6-8 senior forward's scoring average has gone up every year, from 2.2 to 8.7 to 10.4 to 17.1 this season. His rebounding and field goal percentagenumbers have likewise climbed (now at 7.4 and 56.9 percent, respectively). Cunningham turned in his best performance of the season Saturday when he hung 31points and 10 rebounds on Syracuse.
• You can talk about Gonzaga's frontcourt size all you want, but the bottom line is, neither Austin Daye nor Josh Heytvelt, who are both 6-11, like to postup. It doesn't do you much good to be that tall if you insist on playing like a two guard.
• Oklahoma point guard Austin Johnson is ranked seventh in the nation in assist-to-turnover ratio at 2.92-to-1. Just making sure you knew.
• UNLV is going to be another tough call for the Selection Committee. Yes, the Rebels have solid nonconference wins over Arizona and Louisville and they won atBYU, but they're also sitting at 5-4 in the Mountain West. I've seen some bracket projections showing this conference getting four teams in, but Ithink there's a better chance they'll get two than four. Keep in mind that the Mountain West Conference tournament is played every year in Las Vegas.That isn't fair from a competitive standpoint, but I guess it's what's best for the league.
• It pains me to say it, but if Davidson doesn't win the Southern Conference tournament, I don't think the Wildcats can get an at-large bid. It'shard to imagine the tournament without Stephen Curry, but it could very well happen.
• Ole Miss is going to have an awfully tough time making the tournament, but Andy Kennedy has himself some kind of player in Terrico White. The 6-5 freshmanpoint guard from Memphis is a freak athlete who is averaging 20.8 points and 4.0 assists over his last four games.
• You can expect Robbie Hummel to miss another two or three games. Purdue coach Matt Painter told me on Sunday that they are going to sit Hummel until thestress fracture in his back is completely healed. The Boilermakers have yet to win a game without Hummel in the lineup. That's good news for Penn State,which has a chance to build its resume if it can sweep Purdue in West Lafayette on Wednesday. That's as big a bubble game as will be played all week.
• I'm hearing a lot of chatter about how poorly officials administer the traveling call. Well, it's true that when the NCAA evaluated the NCAAtournament last year, traveling was the call that was most often missed. However, what may surprise you is that 60 percent of those mistakes were walks thatwere called but shouldn't have been. So when you hear someone on television say that the problem is that refs miss too many walks that aren't called,actually the opposite is true.
• Here's just about the best idea I've heard in a long, long time: Xavier and Wake Forest announced that next season they will begin a 10-year seriescalled the Skip Prosser Classic. Prosser, of course, coached at both schools. Well done, lads.
• You all may remember reading in this space about DeMarcus Cousins, the 6-9 forward from Mobile, Ala., who refused to sign a Letter of Intent with UAB unlessthe school guaranteed him in writing that he would be released from his commitment if coach Mike Davis took another job. Cousins did not get his writtenguarantee and has since reopened his commitment. However, his camp is putting out the word that if Davis does get another job -- say, at Alabama, Davis'salma mater -- that Cousins will go with him.
From what I'm hearing, however, Davis will have a hard time getting the Alabama job. In the first place, the school just unloaded Mark Gottfried, who isalso an alum, and they are interested in looking "outside the family." Second, Alabama is hoping to make a "home run hire," according toone source. They're willing to pay big bucks for a basketball coach -- not necessarily Saban money, but enough to lure someone like, say, Tubby Smith toTuscaloosa. (That still strikes me as far-fetched, by the way. The more realistic possibility is Missouri's Mike Anderson.)
• Tip of the hat to Saint Joseph's coach Phil Martelli for taping the 100th episode of his weekly show, Hawk Talk. This is hands down the funniest, mostentertaining show in the history of coach's shows. (I know, that's not saying much.)
• Here's an essential basketball truth: If you want your team to be tough, recruit kids from Chicago.
• For the life of me, I cannot understand how Pat Knight avoided being suspended for his out-of-control tirade directed at the refs during Texas Tech'sloss to Nebraska on Jan. 31. I like Knight a lot, but I hope that he understands how inexcusable and embarrassing his behavior was that day. That is simply nothow a grown man should act, especially one who is supposed to be an educator. Let's hope Knight learned from his mistake, because I believe he's atalented coach with a bright future.
• Can we line up all the point guards in America and have one big sprint to see who's the fastest with the ball? My money's on South Carolina'sDevan Downey.
• I hate to go all Gottlieb on you, but you'd have to put Texas forward Connor Atchley on your all-disappointment team. At a time when the Longhorns aredesperate for some perimeter scoring to keep defenses from swarming A.J. Abrams, the 6-10 senior forward is putting up a measly 5.3 points per game on 28.8percent three-point shooting. That's down from 9.5 points and 41.3 percent three-point shooting as a junior.
• You think UConn is a good defensive team? Not only are the Huskies ranked second in the nation in blocks (7.3), fourth in rebound margin (+9.0) and 12th infield goal percentage defense (37.9 percent), they are also ranked first -- yes, first -- in personal fouls per game (12.5).
• It must be a little frustrating for Jamie Dixon that Ashton Gibbs, a 6-2 freshman guard, is leading the Big East in three-point percentge (50.0 percent) buthe is only playing 10.7 minutes per game because he is not a good enough defensive player. If Dixon could take Gibbs' shooting touch and JermaineDixon's defensive ability to create one complete shooting guard, Pitt wouldn't lose another game.
• An NBA scout recently told me that Paul George, a 6-7 freshman swingman who is leading Fresno State in scoring (15.3) and rebounding (6.7), is generatingsome buzz. I caught one of the Bulldogs' games on the tube, and I can see why. George is a pure small forward who can put it on the deck and stroke outsideshots to the tune of 46.0 percent from behind the arc. He's raw, but he is worth following.
• Finally, some of you may remember Trey Schwab, the former assistant coach at Marquette who suffered from a rare lung disease before underdoing a double lungtransplant on Feb. 17, 2004. With the five-year anniversary of his operation approaching, Schwab emailed me to let me know he is still working as the outreachcoordinator at the University of Wisconsin hospital's organ donation program. A few months after his transplant, Schwab met the family of his donor,Stephen Rutherford, a 19-year-old man who had died from a head injury sustained in a construction accident. Because Stephen was a registered donor, more than100 people received transplants from his organs and tissues. It is a great example of how miracles can be generated out of tragedy. For more information on howto become a donor in your state, visit www.donatelife.net.
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although some LI chicks follow the stereotypesOriginally Posted by Craftsy21
i dunno man, they look like typical long island/jersey trash to me.. i would not be at all surprised to find out one or more of them was post-op.
I like more feminine girls... these are all lookin a little beastly for me. But it's all good, more for you guys.me and k-love will roll with the LA chicks, the rest of you can have the jersey and LI girls.
LONG ISLAND #@#+%!!
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GAMES ARE ON ..
