THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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KD is the best scorer stop hating. KD > Russ.

Russ is good but has moments where he just starts jacking shots of when KD is the better offensive player.

Just stop with this everyone.

Remember when Westbrook was out KD almost avg triple double as well and was killing teams? Him and Reggie?

Stop the Bs already.

Only person who is better than KD offensively is JuRah
 
offensively...its head to head him and steph. only real advantage he has over curry is height. i mean its a huge advantage but its tangible.
 
KD going to reach a new level this season, I think a lot of people forget that around the time he got hurt he was putting up 30 in one half against the eventual NBA champs.


Even from his interviews now you can tell that he's 100% comfortable feeling like the best player in the world and this is his chance to make his statement with the best team he's had since the Harden trade.



Donovan is actually a competant coach, I feel KD and Russ especially will thrive under him.


No team in the league has two guys that have an arguement for best player in the world.
For realz! People forget he was balling for what playing only 27 games and wasn't even 100%. If he's 100% this with that fire and drive he has its over for the league! 
 
He hit mans with the FMF bomb tho. 
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The disrespect! 
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People only recently came around on Russ..



That trade Westbrook for rondo bandwagon was strong on nt


Yep.

Same dudes worshipping Russ now were saying

"Russ shoots too much."

"Russ is holding KD back."

etc.

Not true. Russy has had a strong fan base for a while since he scored 40 in the finals. I don't think he is better than KD but I'm one of those who constantly defends him because of all the unnecessary flack he gets even though his assist rate is among the highest in the league
 
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You would say this.
huh? People were calling him a bust and trash 2 weeks ago.

My bad.
I thought you meant that's how you felt.

He was injured most of last season and when he was healthy he really got buried on the bench(understandably)

Snell had looked for a while and especially early on like he had taken the next step but also Pau coming in as another offensive weapon, and the Bulls starters getting 64 minutes per night was Dougs problem, not his skill set
 
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 Even at the ESPYS among athletes, the man can't catch a break. 

ABC Saturday night games is a blessing. Always wondered why they never bothered to show more games on the weekend.
 

I remember people were pretty pissed about this move originally. Very few in Memphis gave Zbo a chance (even me). You couldn't argue with the talent, but I guess Zbo at that time was considered the "talented black hole" of the NBA. The way Zbo panned out is the reason why I give some of today's black holes a chance, especially if a team can get them for an expiring contract or on a cheap free agent deal. That's why I wanted to give Josh Smith a chance on a winning team and look what he did...you never know when that light comes on and a player matures.

Grizz keep that expiring contract in Q and they probably end up overpaying for some free agent that's a role player. Ironically, they signed Josh Smith to an offer sheet in 2009 before making the trade to get Zbo.
 
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This lockout is going to be fun :lol :{


NBA Players' Union: Adam Silver Is Full Of Crap

Deadspin

On Tuesday, in response to a question at a press conference after a Board of Governors meeting, NBA commissioner Adam Silver asserted that a “significant” number of NBA teams were losing money. (:lol) This mirrored what Silver said at the beginning of the season, which the league repeated two months ago.

Today the National Basketball Players Association has issued a response to Silver’s claim. While prefacing her statement by saying “we agreed not to debate the finer points of negotiation in public”—Silver said something very similar after his comments—NBPA president Michele Roberts said “business is thriving,” and added these “facts of this business”:

Under the CBA, we do not have a gross compensation system. The players 50% share is calculated net of a substantial amount of expenses and deductions.

New and renovated arenas around the league have proven to be revenue drivers, profit centers, and franchise valuation boosters. That has been the case over the past few years in Orlando, Brooklyn, and New York, to name a few. In some instances, owners receive arena revenues that are not included in BRI. Many teams also receive generous arena subsides, loans and other incentives from state and local governments as part of their arena deals.

Virtually every business metric demonstrates that our business is healthy. Gate receipts, merchandise sales and TV ratings are all at an all-time high. Franchise values have risen exponentially in recent years, and the NBA has enjoyed high single digit revenue growth since 2010-11.”

Make no mistake: both Silver and Roberts are negotiating in public, and setting the table for an ever-more-likely lockout/strike in 2017.

Roberts’s “facts” about the business are similar to points made in a Deadspin article about how owners can manipulate revenue to bypass the Collective Bargaining Agreement. She is arguing that there are numerous ways NBA owners can accumulate off-book profit from their teams, such as bamboozling municipalities into build them arenas and profiting from “arena revenues that are not included in BRI.” Even if teams are technically losing money, the argument goes, if you look at the whole enterprise, owners are not.

Four years ago, the owners locked the players out, and eventually won the lion’s share of concessions in the ensuing CBA. The biggest of these was a reduction of Basketball Related Income paid to the players from 57 to 50 percent; this came after the league claimed that 22 of 30 teams were losing money, and that the league as a whole was losing $300 million annually.

With the league performing so well—curiously, Silver’s statement came almost directly after he proclaimed that the long-term outlook of the league was very positive, and that “the league is very healthy”—it would seem natural that the players would seek a new, more favorable CBA at the first possible opportunity. That opportunity is after the 2016-17 season; either side can announce their intention to opt out by December 15, 2016.
 
This lockout is going to be fun
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I read this yesterday and realistically I wouldn't be surprised if there were 10 teams losing money last year like they were talking about.  I guarantee the Nets lost money last year and there are enough terribly run franchises that it could be true. 
 
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Not a business guy by any means, but how is it possible that 22 of 30 teams were losing money when the lockout happened 
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When you say "losing money" what does that really look like, is it as black and white as it sounds? I just find that so bizarre 
 
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