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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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Which is what I said...he can score at will and is elite at that aspect of the game. However, there are SO many other nuances that go into playing the PG position. You can easily make an argument that it's the most complex position to play on the court. He leaves a lot to be desired with his defense, ability to run a team, etc.
Can't disagree w/ this.
Is it safe to say top 25 player but not top 8 pg?
 
So many nters are adept with calculators and twitter/blogs but don't really have an eye for the game

So many NTers watch every game that their squads play, see a few highlights of other players/nationally televised games, and have no idea what they're talking about.

It goes both ways.
 
So many nters are adept with calculators and twitter/blogs but don't really have an eye for the game

So many NTers watch every game that their squads play, see a few highlights of other players/nationally televised games, and have no idea what they're talking about.

It goes both ways.

its funny that you can say that and still think that dame might be better than mike conley. that it's debatable.
 
So many nters are adept with calculators and twitter/blogs but don't really have an eye for the game

So many NTers watch every game that their squads play, see a few highlights of other players/nationally televised games, and have no idea what they're talking about.

It goes both ways.

its funny that you can say that and still think that dame might be better than mike conley. that it's debatable.

It's funny that you can reply to that and think that Mike Conley being better than Damian Lillard isn't debatable.
 
 
Mind you he averaged 20 and 6.5 fresh of surgery
You're using a qualifier.  What he did is only impressive if you take his injury into account as an excuse.

But he's always injured/gimped and he is who he is, so....
 
 
That averaging 17 and 5 in the East on 40% shooting and 28% from 3 isn't crazy.  The dude had a PER of 15.  Kobe's old crappy *** had a PER of 17.  That tells me that averaging 5 point ppg less while shooting 4 times a game less isn't a big deal.  Dude is 2 seasons away from become Rajon Rondo.
 
You're using a qualifier.  What he did is only impressive if you take his injury into account as an excuse.

But he's always injured/gimped and he is who he is, so....
Quoted for future reference. Mugs are gonna be like...
 
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Which is what I said...he can score at will and is elite at that aspect of the game. However, there are SO many other nuances that go into playing the PG position. You can easily make an argument that it's the most complex position to play on the court. He leaves a lot to be desired with his defense, ability to run a team, etc.
Can't disagree w/ this.
Is it safe to say top 25 player but not top 8 pg?

Crazy when you think about it...but there might be some truth in the question you just asked. Because on the flip, you can have a top 8-10 PG EASILY not be a top-25 player int he league.
 
So many nters are adept with calculators and twitter/blogs but don't really have an eye for the game

So many NTers watch every game that their squads play, see a few highlights of other players/nationally televised games, and have no idea what they're talking about.

It goes both ways.
To sum up both your points, there are a lot of NTers
 
 
At low efficiency there are a lot of PGs who could drop 20 if they took enough shots.  The Brandon Jennings, Reggie Jacksons of the world can all do that.

He's a fine starter though, yeah.
Off a 3 year hiatus? Well we'll never know will we... 
 
Like... we aren't comparing Damian Lillard and Kyrie Irving to Steph, Russ, Wall, CP0.

We're comparing them to Mike f'n Conley.

Not a tier one guy.

Mike Conley.

And we're going to sit here and act like it isn't debatable?

Over Mike Conley?

No debate what-so-ever over an average PG?

Mike Conley.

Like this dude is something special at PG, completely better than his peers, a phenom at his position.

Mike. Conley.

It's mind-bottling.
 
There's no point in bringing up lebron, we all know his imaginary greatness

He's like the kobe Bryant of imagination land
 
If anything, he's in that 8-10 range...but I wouldn't put up any argument for him if someone thinks someone like Dragic/Bledsoe/Jackson/etc. is better.
I'm as serious as that tie yall had last year.

He can score at will, but that's about it. Too many holes in his game for me to definitively say that he's top 10 at the position. He's insanely overrated to me.
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Great face wash :hat
 
Sometimes I don't know if Chester is just trollin' or he really feels that way :lol

You want to compare stats so much? We might as well say Marc Gasol isn't top 5 at his position because he doesn't score the basketball enough or rebound at a high level. Neither does he block a lot of shots, but for some reason people list him as the best center in the game and easily a top 2-3 center in the game.

Perfect example...

Conley made Lillard look like his ***** in the first 2-3 games of the playoffs, but his numbers weren't STELLAR. He did everything right and made Lillard look like a fool because he could get anywhere he wanted on the floor to find his teammates, make hockey assists, defend and run the team efficiently. Your analysis to me is basically saying Lillard 5 games in that series were better than Conley's 2 games because Lillard averaged more points, assists and rebounds despite his poor defense and terrible shot selection.

Conley is special at plenty of things. He's considered one of the best defensive PG's in the league and he runs a team efficiently unlike most PG's in the NBA today. He does what he suppose to do.Your argument about his playoff numbers has more to do with the FO not putting another playmaker around him more than anything. Also, its funny that you call out his playoff numbers when the only PG's he's played against in the last 5 years were Paul, Curry, Westbrook, Parker and Lillard. 3 of those guys are clearly better than him at this point and guys I list in Tier 1.
 
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For at most 30 games before he blows his knee out again. 
Bro you outchea talking about the bulls but the Lakers are hot garbage. Give it up bro. 
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  And you outchea talking about somebody's squad. Look in the mirror bro. 
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They're not even gonna sniff the postseason. Also y'all need need to give up them d.rose jokes. They're like popcorn that has been left out too long stale and corny. C'mon son we need new stuff. But that's none of my business tho
 
Sometimes I don't know if Chester is just trollin' or he really feels that way :lol

You want to compare stats so much?


I'm pretty sure he's trolling. People bring up stats to argue that CP3 is thr best PG and he dismisses them and laughs.

But the second he finds a stat in his favor he turns into an OKB/Hollinger hybrid.


How has nobody mentioned that Conley is the best 4th quarter iso scorer in the league?
 
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