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[onetrust]

He was gifted two all timers in Wade and Bosh and Riles was in the mix.

Damn, so YOU'RE the Kobe fan that made that comparison of Jamison = Pau. Was wondering which one of you it was.

at acting like being "gifted" Wade/Bosh = Shaq, Phil.

 

[darthska]

[quote name="Mamba MVP"][quote name="DarthSka"]Excuses? He wasn't gifted 2 all-timers like Shaq & Phil. That's just... I mean, he has his faults, for sure, but those are facts right there.[/quote]He was gifted two all timers in Wade and Bosh and Riles was in the mix.[/quote]Fax. Absolutely.

But like OneTrust said, Wade/Bosh w/ Riles upstairs is nothing close to Shaq/Pau/Phil. It's better than what he had in Cleveland, and he got 4 Finals/2 rings out of it, but I hope you're not trying to paint Kobe's & Bron's experiences as equal.

 

[sea manup]

I think its safe to say that lebron needs more help

2/6 is fax

5/7 is also fax

If lebron wins another one we can have this conversation but let's not do the assume player will win a championship and argue that he's better based off what he hasn't accomplished yet thing again

It's impossible to prove that lebron would have won any championships with shaq and Phil

 

[darthska]

[quote name="sea manup"]It's impossible to prove that lebron would have won any championships with shaq and Phil[/quote]So then we have to entertain the possibility, no?

 

[sea manup]

Possibility is something that can happen

It is literally impossible for lebron to team up with prime shaq, this will never happen ever

So we will never know. This entire argument is based on something we will never know

While all of the lakers kobe era championships are cold hard fax

 

[Lovetohate3000]

I think its safe to say that lebron needs more help

2/6 is fax

5/7 is also fax

If lebron wins another one we can have this conversation but let's not do the assume player will win a championship and argue that he's better based off what he hasn't accomplished yet thing again

It's impossible to prove that lebron would have won any championships with shaq and Phil

only things that are actual facts. everything else is just bad excuses. 

 

[darthska]

[quote name="sea manup"]Possibility is something that can happen

It is literally impossible for lebron to team up with prime shaq, this will never happen ever

So we will never know. This entire argument is based on something we will never know[/quote]So since it cannot be disproved, the possibility must be entertained.

Isn't that how they do it?

 

[sea manup]

[quote name="sea manup"]Possibility is something that can happen

It is literally impossible for lebron to team up with prime shaq, this will never happen ever

So we will never know. This entire argument is based on something we will never know

So since it cannot be disproved, the possibility must be entertained.

Isn't that how they do it? [/quote]I think this is correct

Which is why we must also entertain the possibility of kobe winning 6 championships with lebrons' cavs squads

Unless someone can show me footage of kobe playing with the cavs squads and not winning championships I will continue to believe this

 

[darthska]

Theeeeere we go.

*high five*

 

[MVP]

Damn, so YOU'RE the Kobe fan that made that comparison of Jamison = Pau. Was wondering which one of you it was.

at acting like being "gifted" Wade/Bosh = Shaq, Phil.

The hell you talking about? I've never said anything remote about Jamison = Pau.

It's always imagine this with Bron while disregarding the facts that he's been allowed to hand pick his squads for the last 5 seasons and has gone 2-3 being the guy and is very lucky is not 1-4.

 

[darthska]

He really is. Bosh doesn't get that rebound, Bron is 1-5.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

And Shaq and Kobe had several bounces, calls and Robert horry/fisher/Ron artest shots that saved their butts too

Don't act like Lebron is the only one

 

[darthska]

No doubt.

 

[MVP]

And Shaq and Kobe had several bounces, calls and Robert horry/fisher/Ron artest shots that saved their butts too

Don't act like Lebron is the only one

True but I don't think there's a Finals situation in history that's comparable to what happened in that game 6. There was no tomorrow if Bosh/Ray doesn't happen. Horry, Fish 0.4, vs ORL in 2009, Ron in 2010 those weren't elimination scenarios. I mean they had brought the trophy and the ropes out already.

 

[shoeking2102]

And Shaq and Kobe had several bounces, calls and Robert horry/fisher/Ron artest shots that saved their butts too

Don't act like Lebron is the only one

Everyone forgets this whenever they cry about Ray Allen "saving" Lebron 

 

[essential1]

Lakers were winning when Ron hit that shot.

It was 76-73. Ron made it 79-73. Celtics then hit a 3.

 

[MVP]

Think he's talking about the PHX shot.

 

[sea manup]

I don't see why people talk about Ray saving lebron when it should be about the fraudulent Spurs choking in the playoffs as is tradition

 

[essential1]

Think he's talking about the PHX shot.

He'd be the first to reference that at least. So that's good.

Most people reference the Game 7 finals shot as if it gave the Lakers the lead.

 

[MVP]

He'd be the first to reference that at least. So that's good.

Most people reference the Game 7 finals shot as if it gave the Lakers the lead.

Well that's what I'm assuming since he put Horry and Fish in there as well.

 

[kingjaffejo]

If, then.... Statements all across the board
Never understood the arguing of if, then statements. That can go on all day. Which I see it has...lol

 

[HIM]

Bat signals all around.

 

[sea manup]

Kobe has won NBA finals games without shaq in the building

Lebron has never won a finals game without wade in the building

 

[sea manup]

Bat signals all around.

Kobe task force > lebby task force

 

[rolaholic]

 

Bat signals all around.

No task force > Kobe task force > lebby task force

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