darthska
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Excuses? He wasn't gifted 2 all-timers like Shaq & Phil. That's just... I mean, he has his faults, for sure, but those are facts right there.
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He was gifted two all timers in Wade and Bosh and Riles was in the mix.
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Yes Wade and Bosh= Shaq,Phil, Pau
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Lebron did not win as an alpha. Kobe didn't win as an alpha either. Both dudes understood the need to have 'team-mates'.
If you really wanted to dig though, maybe look at how Kobe was capable of winning w/ Shaq and Pau!! Many people do not see this aspect though. With Lebron? Well, he'll continue to spam text guys and low key bring guys over to 'help' him win.
The thing is, LBJ has never gotten the 'nod' from MJ and from many accomplished individuals. That should say something in itself. Poor ole Lebron looking soft when 50+ year old dudes saying they would mop the floor against LBL 1-on-1. Every time NBA 2K interviews MJ, the whole, can you beat LBJ comes up. And time and time again, MJ takes a dig at Lasgana James. Nuff said.
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Fire hot take bro.
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real recognize real.
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Ibaka has a challenger.
Ibaka has a challenger.
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You lost me at healthy Heat.
Sidenote: And Morton, you really need to be back handed in the mouth. That grandma heat of the moment back hand slapped in your mouth.....for even trying to act like (troll or not) "Lebron being gifted prime Wade prime Bosh and Riles in the mix" was anything close to what Kobe had access to in LA with Dr. Buss.
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The ONLY reason that Trio was meant to do Big things in Miami was Lebron.
Lebron and the 2 worst NBA players > Wade/Bosh/Riley/+1
Lebron and the 2 worst NBA players > Wade/Bosh/Riley/+1
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You're talking about lebron teaming up with a guy that had already won a chip as the #1 guy dough
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What's your point
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Lebron needed wade and bosh as much as they needed him, maybe more so. And I'm the champion of the argument that he carried them in their last series vs San antone
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Lie to yourself some more
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Big chance Bron would still be Ringless if he hadn't vacay'd in Miami
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You two are nuts about this right now man.
Lebron happened to go to Miami and win THEM as well as himself, rings.
He would have made anybody in the East instant contenders, Instant. Miami is lucky he chose them, period.
Lebron happened to go to Miami and win THEM as well as himself, rings.
He would have made anybody in the East instant contenders, Instant. Miami is lucky he chose them, period.
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Ok. I guess he could have stayed in Cleveland and went to 4 straight finals with Donyell marshall then
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Gotta go though.
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Miami had the cap space for two stars and Celtics big three was already giving him probs. I'm not sure if he would have still won a ring or not without *wait for it* more help but that's hypothetical and in the past so a waste of time to dwell on
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The fact that you ask if I or anybody Expected "him to have stayed in Cleveland and went to 4 straight finals with Donyell" is exactly my point.
He was taking any team to the finals, out East. Miami won, Lebron got the consolation Chip. He should have won with Cleveland and should have never had to leave, but he didn't want to Buffalo Bill it every year.
He was taking any team to the finals, out East. Miami won, Lebron got the consolation Chip. He should have won with Cleveland and should have never had to leave, but he didn't want to Buffalo Bill it every year.
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yeah because lebron did it all by himself vs the mavs right?... all the players put in work to help lebron win... mike miller 3 pointer, shane battier 3 pointers ( 2nd ring )
chris bosh rebound and the jesus shot...
chris bosh rebound and the jesus shot...
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You also have to take in consideration eras the early 2000s were not very good team wise a lot of bums playing crucial minutes
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Nobody is winning a damn thing with Mo Williams as your second best player. Nobody.
I don't know why y'all wanna force these standards on players. There's a lot of things you can fault LeBron for but its about time one of these players take control of their own career and do what they have to do. We see how funny front offices can be even with success. Look at the disdain MJ had for his front office. Look at how Minny pretty much had KG stuck on treadmill for the majority of his career.
I don't blame Bron one bit for leaving.
I don't know why y'all wanna force these standards on players. There's a lot of things you can fault LeBron for but its about time one of these players take control of their own career and do what they have to do. We see how funny front offices can be even with success. Look at the disdain MJ had for his front office. Look at how Minny pretty much had KG stuck on treadmill for the majority of his career.
I don't blame Bron one bit for leaving.
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Don't forget he won two finals MVP'S in 2012-2013, the only thing that matters
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