Syria?

[oxygen]

Ok, whats going on in Syria? Is it between the government and insurgents? the news doesn't shed any light on this?

 

[noskey]

Really though? Go to CNN or Yahoo or anything that reports news.

Anyways, the Syrian government and military are systematically exterminating citizens and rebels who want al-Assad out of power. Talking about massacres of dozens and dozens of people every day. The Syrian gov't denies it. The UN put the estimates at 9,000 people killed since March of last year. 108 people got killed a couple weeks ago on May 25th, majority being women and children. The UN and our government are sitting idly by, trying to pass resolutions that China and Russia keep vetoing.

 

[teamjordan79]

Originally Posted by Noskey

Really though? Go to CNN or Yahoo or anything that reports news.

Anyways, the Syrian government and military are systematically exterminating citizens and rebels who want al-Assad out of power. Talking about massacres of dozens and dozens of people every day. The Syrian gov't denies it. The UN put the estimates at 9,000 people killed since March of last year. 108 people got killed a couple weeks ago on May 25th, majority being women and children. The UN and our government are sitting idly by, trying to pass resolutions that China and Russia keep vetoing.

 

[sleaze jar omens]

whats going on in Pakistan though? and the Philippines

 

[AZwildcats]

For being the atrocity that it is, I often forget it is happening. it isn't getting nearly the press as egypt and libya

 

[josebronx]

 

[patrick bateman]

Originally Posted by Noskey

Really though? Go to CNN or Yahoo or anything that reports news.

Anyways, the Syrian government and military are systematically exterminating citizens and rebels who want al-Assad out of power. Talking about massacres of dozens and dozens of people every day. The Syrian gov't denies it. The UN put the estimates at 9,000 people killed since March of last year. 108 people got killed a couple weeks ago on May 25th, majority being women and children. The UN and our government are sitting idly by, trying to pass resolutions that China and Russia keep vetoing.

CNN or YAHOO definitely sold you on U.S. intervention huh? 

 

[mo matik]

Nobody wants to talk about Syria because it's a case that shows how little we have advanced as human beings, on a global scale.

When intervening to save thousands of lives is too inconvenient because of an unnecessarily complicated global political system.

As military force is considered, several underlying issues must be addressed: While the United States accelerates withdrawals from military interventions in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan, how can a new military commitment in the same region be justified, particularly one likely to face similar challenges? Does the new approach — less explicitly strategic and military, and geared more toward diplomatic and moral issues — solve the dilemmas that plagued earlier efforts in Iraq or Afghanistan, which ended in withdrawal and a divided America? Or does it compound the difficulty by staking U.S. prestige and morale on domestic outcomes that America has even fewer means and less leverage to shape? Who replaces the ousted leadership, and what do we know about it? Will the outcome improve the human condition and the security situation? Or do we risk repeating the experience with the Taliban, armed by America to fight the Soviet invader but then turned into a security challenge to us?

The difference between strategic and humanitarian intervention becomes relevant. The world community defines humanitarian intervention by consensus, so difficult to achieve that it generally limits the effort. On the other hand, intervention that is unilateral or based on a coalition of the willing evokes the resistance of countries fearing the application of the policy to their territories (such as China and Russia). Hence it is more difficult to achieve domestic support for it. The doctrine of humanitarian intervention is in danger of being suspended between its maxims and the ability to implement them; unilateral intervention, by contrast, comes at the price of international and domestic support.


Syrian intervention risks upsetting global order | Henry Kissinger | WashingtonPost

 

[iron mike]

Originally Posted by Mo Matik

Nobody wants to talk about Syria because it's a case that shows how little we have advanced as human beings, on a global scale.

When intervening to save thousands of lives is too inconvenient because of an unnecessarily complicated global political system.

As military force is considered, several underlying issues must be addressed: While the United States accelerates withdrawals from military interventions in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan, how can a new military commitment in the same region be justified, particularly one likely to face similar challenges? Does the new approach — less explicitly strategic and military, and geared more toward diplomatic and moral issues — solve the dilemmas that plagued earlier efforts in Iraq or Afghanistan, which ended in withdrawal and a divided America? Or does it compound the difficulty by staking U.S. prestige and morale on domestic outcomes that America has even fewer means and less leverage to shape? Who replaces the ousted leadership, and what do we know about it? Will the outcome improve the human condition and the security situation? Or do we risk repeating the experience with the Taliban, armed by America to fight the Soviet invader but then turned into a security challenge to us?

The difference between strategic and humanitarian intervention becomes relevant. The world community defines humanitarian intervention by consensus, so difficult to achieve that it generally limits the effort. On the other hand, intervention that is unilateral or based on a coalition of the willing evokes the resistance of countries fearing the application of the policy to their territories (such as China and Russia). Hence it is more difficult to achieve domestic support for it. The doctrine of humanitarian intervention is in danger of being suspended between its maxims and the ability to implement them; unilateral intervention, by contrast, comes at the price of international and domestic support.

Syrian intervention risks upsetting global order | Henry Kissinger | WashingtonPost

you go bahh, sheep? 
you want the brotherhood in power, huh? 

my avatar won't let it happen. 

 

[odog24]

Originally Posted by Sleaze Jar Omens

whats going on in Pakistan though? and the Philippines

vood like to know as vell

 

[mplsdunk]

It's messed up is what it is. They do live coverage on the regular on CNN.

 

[tkthafm]

Syria - Assad killing Sunni's.
Pakistan - Same old. Corrupt govt. taking bribes to continue allowing the drone strikes/"war on terror"
Philippines - Corrupt puppet govt. trying to confront China over the South China Sea, US/Philippines too scared to confront China militarily, asking for 'diplomatic solution', moved more of the Navy to the Pacific to flex.

 

[buggz05]

Originally Posted by Noskey

Really though? Go to CNN or Yahoo or anything that reports news.

Anyways, the Syrian government and military are systematically exterminating citizens and rebels who want al-Assad out of power. Talking about massacres of dozens and dozens of people every day. The Syrian gov't denies it. The UN put the estimates at 9,000 people killed since March of last year. 108 people got killed a couple weeks ago on May 25th, majority being women and children. The UN and our government are sitting idly by, trying to pass resolutions that China and Russia keep vetoing.

How is this any different than the U.S. exterminating millions of Saddam Hussein supporters? Food for thought. 

 

[josebronx]

so would this be a good time to enlist?

 

[noskey]

Originally Posted by buggz05

Originally Posted by Noskey

Really though? Go to CNN or Yahoo or anything that reports news.

Anyways, the Syrian government and military are systematically exterminating citizens and rebels who want al-Assad out of power. Talking about massacres of dozens and dozens of people every day. The Syrian gov't denies it. The UN put the estimates at 9,000 people killed since March of last year. 108 people got killed a couple weeks ago on May 25th, majority being women and children. The UN and our government are sitting idly by, trying to pass resolutions that China and Russia keep vetoing.

How is this any different than the U.S. exterminating millions of Saddam Hussein supporters? Food for thought. 

Did I say it was different?

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Originally Posted by Noskey

Really though? Go to CNN or Yahoo or anything that reports news.

Anyways, the Syrian government and military are systematically exterminating citizens and rebels who want al-Assad out of power. Talking about massacres of dozens and dozens of people every day. The Syrian gov't denies it. The UN put the estimates at 9,000 people killed since March of last year. 108 people got killed a couple weeks ago on May 25th, majority being women and children. The UN and our government are sitting idly by, trying to pass resolutions that China and Russia keep vetoing.

CNN or YAHOO definitely sold you on U.S. intervention huh? 

Where did I suggest U.S. intervention is the best method?

 

[an dee 51o]

You should listen to the news on NPR. They talk a lot about Syria almost every day.

What's happening is horrible, no matter who is doing it. Whole cities are being massacred. Women, children, the elderly.. it seems like no one is safe.

 

[damnthosejs]

They're splitting babies' brains using machetes over there infront of the parents. It's the lowest point of humanity listening to some disturbing details

Listen to BBC news. They have a report on villages getting robbed and massacred almost everyday.

 

[kangaroobombs]

HUH?