Stay/Get Back In Shape.... Vol 2.0

[rufiorufiorufio]

Hey guys. I am on the final two week's of Kris Gethin's 12 week daily hardcore trainer.

At the end of August I weighed 235 and was becoming a fat bastard.

I am currently between 193-200, depending on the time of day.

After January 14th I am taking two weeks off

Then starting Dorian Yates Blood & Guts 6 week trainer.

I will be posting in this thread more often.

In regards to the resolutioners, I made te mistake of missing my 5am gym time yesterday and I had to go at 8PM.

Thank god it was just Abs and Calves bc I would have spazzed waiting.


Anyone have exp with either of the programs i mentioned?

 

[rufiorufiorufio]

Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT

LOL at people thinking doing direct ab work will result in cutting fat from said abs...

la verdad
what they need to do is cut that dam cheeseburger outta their diet.

  

 

[r23j]

Just took about 3/4 scoop of Muscle Pharm assault and WOW.  had that tingling feeling from the beta the entire hour i worked out. Does this last?  Only negative is im not big on creatine and this is 4 grams a scoop

 

[ag 47]

Hey guys. I am on the final two week's of Kris Gethin's 12 week daily hardcore trainer.


Nice. Did you follow his nutritional plan as well? I'm guessing you did to lose that much weight in 12 weeks.

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by Cole World

Originally Posted by ChewToy112

Originally Posted by gConquer

i never understood why people do abs when they have high body fat %..

Not everyone trains for aesthetics...having a stronger core is never a bad thing, especially if you're an athlete.

obviously to have a stronger core.

Basically. I mean sure the 40 year old with a belly that hangs down over his belt, is probably doing his stupid leg raises to burn belly fat. But most of us that somewhat know what we're doing, that don't have six packs, do it to get stronger and realize it will pay off after a cut.

I do several sets of sit ups while holding 15 pounds behind my head, despite not having visible abs. Ive had cats approach me numerous times telling me I should do their leg raises or stability ball crunches and @#@* because you really feel the burn and Im gonna hurt myself doing situps... but theyre the same dudes that couldnt do 10 proper situps with 10 pounds against their chest.

A strong core is a strong core, regardless of whether its visible or not. You can usually tell who knows what they're doing in the gym, so I'm sure you can tell who's doing abs for the right reasons.

 

[cole world]

Originally Posted by Checks McGee

damnit cutting sucks, i love food 

i got used to eating over maintenance, now its hard for me not to have food in my mouth.

 

[cole world]

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by Cole World

Originally Posted by ChewToy112

Not everyone trains for aesthetics...having a stronger core is never a bad thing, especially if you're an athlete.

obviously to have a stronger core.

Basically. I mean sure the 40 year old with a belly that hangs down over his belt, is probably doing his stupid leg raises to burn belly fat. But most of us that somewhat know what we're doing, that don't have six packs, do it to get stronger and realize it will pay off after a cut.

I do several sets of sit ups while holding 15 pounds behind my head, despite not having visible abs. Ive had cats approach me numerous times telling me I should do their leg raises or stability ball crunches and @#@* because you really feel the burn and Im gonna hurt myself doing situps... but theyre the same dudes that couldnt do 10 proper situps with 10 pounds against their chest.

A strong core is a strong core, regardless of whether its visible or not. You can usually tell who knows what they're doing in the gym, so I'm sure you can tell who's doing abs for the right reasons.

QFT, but there will always be people doing sit ups because they believe they can brun the fat on their stomach like that. SMH.

 

[bjamez20]

Just got one of those in door pull up bars to supplement the gym

If I do like 50 throughout the day every day would that be overtraining?

 

[yvespo3]

Originally Posted by R23J

Just took about 3/4 scoop of Muscle Pharm assault and WOW.  had that tingling feeling from the beta the entire hour i worked out. Does this last?  Only negative is im not big on creatine and this is 4 grams a scoop

Heard some good things about this, just finished green mag and jump on assault. Why are you not big on creatine?

 

[based mod]

Originally Posted by bjamez20

Just got one of those in door pull up bars to supplement the gym

If I do like 50 throughout the day every day would that be overtraining?

i think most here would suggest you train certain body parts once over a certain time period before re-training those same body parts again

 

[gconquer]

Originally Posted by bjamez20

Just got one of those in door pull up bars to supplement the gym

If I do like 50 throughout the day every day would that be overtraining?

50 throughout the day every day? thats minimum. assuming you do 10 every hour those are warm ups

 

[bkmac]

Just got home and showered from my shoulder workout (1130PM-1AM). My gym is 24 Hours now, and I wanted to try out a late night workout. I swear I had more energy then than I did all day today

.

 

[bjamez20]

Originally Posted by gConquer

Originally Posted by bjamez20

Just got one of those in door pull up bars to supplement the gym

If I do like 50 throughout the day every day would that be overtraining?

50 throughout the day every day? thats minimum. assuming you do 10 every hour those are warm ups

obviously not as the only exercise, i have a back/bi day too.  just wanted a pullup bar to do a little extra here and there.  i take it that wouldnt be overtraining it then

 

[checks mcgee]

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by Checks McGee

Originally Posted by MoreUptempo


Water retention

isn't that only if you don't turn it into muscle?

You dont turn the water into muscle. The idea is that contractions of the muscle require water to function effectively. With more water in the muscle, it'll be able to work just a little harder, enough for you to get a few more reps in, or add a couple pounds to the bar. That extra weight will help you progress faster, provided your diet, rest, and training are otherwise on point.

so youre saying you would recommend creatine, right?

 

[hendrix watermelon]

Opinions on Hemp protein? Debating wether I should get that or whey. Pros and cons?

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by Based Mod

Originally Posted by bjamez20

Just got one of those in door pull up bars to supplement the gym

If I do like 50 throughout the day every day would that be overtraining?

i think most here would suggest you train certain body parts once over a certain time period before re-training those same body parts again

Yeah, but a pull up bar is probably one of the few things Id say you can make an exception for. At first youre going to be terrible inefficient doing any type of pull/chin up so doing them repeatedly is going to teach you how to do them most effeciently. With time you'll be able to do them without wasting a bunch of energy on swinging back and forth, and getting out of the groove.  When that time comes, you'll be able to use them to add volume to a back/bi day or another.

Point is theyre not gonna kill you, as most of the "gains" youre making are technique rather than strength.

Originally Posted by Checks McGee

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by Checks McGee

isn't that only if you don't turn it into muscle?

You dont turn the water into muscle. The idea is that contractions of the muscle require water to function effectively. With more water in the muscle, it'll be able to work just a little harder, enough for you to get a few more reps in, or add a couple pounds to the bar. That extra weight will help you progress faster, provided your diet, rest, and training are otherwise on point.

so youre saying you would recommend creatine, right?

Yeah.

You might feel like you look kinda like a balloon because of the extra water in your muscles, but rarely do I hear people complain about it - most are happy just to look a little bigger. What you might hate about creatine though, is that you really should be drinking water all day long, taking a leak damn near every hour. Its certainly inconvenient, but so is eating 5 times a day and all the other !!+% people are willing to put up with.

 

[2lipslegit]

Originally Posted by Hendrix Watermelon

Opinions on Hemp protein? Debating wether I should get that or whey. Pros and cons?

Doesnt matter, protein is protein, basically.

 

[gigajones]

Anyone workout twice a day? Cardio/HIIT & lifting? I do one or the other in the AM, I come home after work and feel like I should be doing something more.

 

[rawex5]

Originally Posted by Checks McGee

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by Checks McGee

isn't that only if you don't turn it into muscle?

You dont turn the water into muscle. The idea is that contractions of the muscle require water to function effectively. With more water in the muscle, it'll be able to work just a little harder, enough for you to get a few more reps in, or add a couple pounds to the bar. That extra weight will help you progress faster, provided your diet, rest, and training are otherwise on point.

so youre saying you would recommend creatine, right?

Creatine is essential if you're serious with building your body, imo. The water retention is minimal most of the time. Get some creatine monohydrate, its cheap and effective.

  The constant bathroom usage does get annoying, though.  

Originally Posted by GIGAJONES

Anyone workout twice a day? Cardio/HIIT & lifting? I do one or the other in the AM, I come home after work and feel like I should be doing something more.

  If I got paid to workout, then there is no question I would do double days.

 

[gigajones]

RaWeX05 wrote:

Originally Posted by GIGAJONES

Anyone workout twice a day? Cardio/HIIT & lifting? I do one or the other in the AM, I come home after work and feel like I should be doing something more.

  If I got paid to workout, then there is no question I would do double days.

Ehh... I don't get paid....


Yet.

 

[yngsimba.sneakershoebox]

Originally Posted by Hendrix Watermelon

Opinions on Hemp protein? Debating wether I should get that or whey. Pros and cons?

Was gonna try this too.
I know a con of whey is that it is a dairy product (produces mucus, basically dairy related problems) and whey is also more of a processed product, where hemp tends to be more natural, if I'm not mistaken. Just started looking into thought, there is probably more things that factor into it.

 

[jorrdanfan23]

ive been using Xpand and was wondering how long should i cycle off until i try my new pickup supplement Neurocore?

 

[cole world]

Posting my routine just in case you guys have some good tips

Chest/Tris

DB FLat
DB Incline
Pushups
Close Grip
Tricep Extensions or Skull Crushers

Back and biceps

Deadlift
BB bent over Row
Lat Pull down
BB Curl
DB hammer Curls

Legs

Squat or Leg Press
Stiff Leg Deadlift
Lunges
Hamstring Curl

Shoulders

BB or DB shoulder Press
Shrugs
Lateral Raises
Lateral Extension (not sure what they are called, reverse chest flies on machine)

 

[rawex5]

^ Not bad. Make sure you change it up every week.

 

[hendrix watermelon]

Originally Posted by yngSIMBA

Originally Posted by Hendrix Watermelon

Opinions on Hemp protein? Debating wether I should get that or whey. Pros and cons?

Was gonna try this too.
I know a con of whey is that it is a dairy product (produces mucus, basically dairy related problems) and whey is also more of a processed product, where hemp tends to be more natural, if I'm not mistaken. Just started looking into thought, there is probably more things that factor into it.

I did not know whey was a dairy product. Yea, that's definitely out of the question now. 
I was reading some on bb and they recommended to buy from this brand

Amazon product ASIN B002CPVTH4 

It seems the other brand that sells hemp protein has a protein with more fiber than protein on it, so you'd practically spend your time in the throne than getting in some reps if you take it pre workout.

I'm gonna give that 70% one a try and see whats good.

side question. What are the name of those belts or straps that you put around your waiste and you can attach a weight plate on it to do pull/chin ups?