Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

[green rhino123]

 

[PRIME]

That's my Halloween costume.

Don't forget to include the feels tears and to shout TRAITOR at every other storm trooper costume you see

 

[SC kid]

Purported star wars fans

 

[PRIME]

A fan of the force this young man purports.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Watched the prequel trilogy back to back on Blu Ray last night. Man, Episode II was easily the worst but even that one had some amazing scenes like the final battle on Genosis and Yoda vs. Dooku. I vaguely remember people going wild in the theater 14 years ago when that happened.

Phantom Menace wasn't even as horrific as people make it out to be. Anakin creating 3P0 and blowing up the Trade Federation mothership is really the dumbest thing about that movie. Obviously everything about Jar Jar Binks is still just terrible.

And I was right about The Force making you a better pilot. "You must have Jedi reflexes".

Hayden was trash in II but his acting had vastly improved in III. III might actually be the second or third best Star Wars movie out of the first six. The final battle on Mustafar the best in the series easily.


Just makes me more depressed that Gendy Tartakovsky's EPIC cartoon series is no longer canon despite Episode 3 clearly taking place directly after it ended


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[Armada]

That Clone Wars cartoon series was the best IMO so sad thats not canon anymore. If any Clone Wars cartoon series deserved to be canon it was that one.

 

[knowledge24]

tried to watch phantom menace last night and just couldn't get through the overly long pod race and had to turn it off.

 

[noblekane]

I finally cracked and saw the film that purports to be Star Wars "VII" after dreading how bad it would be (which had resulted in my hold out until I could see it with all of my family together). Warning... semi-long rant that could be much longer follows. I actually don’t know why I wrote this here (probably just because I knew there was a Star Wars thread on Niketalk).

I had avoided all spoilers/trailers/previews of any kind as best as I could... but I could not avoid seeing a recovered Darth Vader mask, knew that the primary members of the original trilogy's cast would be in the film, and Disney... so, I anticipated something worse than Indiana Jones "4". While I will not go as far as to say that the film that purports to be Star Wars "VII" was as bad as the monstrosity that is Indiana Jones "4", it was fairly close.

As one of the biggest fans of the original 6 movies (all of them, original trilogy and prequel trilogy; strictly canon only (minus Holiday Special); I did not put much stock or interest into the Expanded Universe beyond playing/owning many Star Wars games), I do not plan on watching the next films in this "trilogy/series". I may consider watching any future films that deal with the events prior to Episode I, but I cannot see myself buying into any more of the supposed storyline that follows this film that purports to be Star Wars "VII".

I have many issues with this film that purports to be Star Wars "VII" that I will not go into. I have not kept up with this or any Star Wars thread at all (see above; no spoilers)... so many of them may have been mentioned, although my brief reading of the past few pages show that many people in here actually seem to have liked the film. I will mention two of my issues by trying to combine/condense/describe them into two main/generalized issues, as I do not wish to go through every single issue that I have with numerous details that are present in the film that purports to be Star Wars “VII” (big and small).

First, this film that purports to be Star Wars "VII" is simply a knock-off of Star Wars IV. There are many different "moving parts" and the plot/characters/objects/pace/etc. is obviously not exactly same... but I felt like I was watching a very high end fan film that was attempting to remake Star Wars IV with all of the subtle (and painfully not so subtle) references (note: obviously, there were references to other parts/scenes of some of the other films... but the Star Wars IV vibe was certainly the strongest). I could go on for hours about every single thing wrong with this, but I won't. It simply felt like a bad version of something I'd already seen before. The lack of creativity must have been intentional, as it was probably done to draw casual fans of the original trilogy back into the fold (although it seems they shot themselves in the foot by killing off one of the most popular, if not THE most popular, character of the old trilogy in a nearly emotionless fashion).

Second, this film that purports to be Star Wars "VII" requires a belief that the events that took place at the end of Star Wars VI (i.e. the destruction of the Galactic/Imperial Empire, Anakin Skywalker fulfilling a 1000 year old prophecy by bringing balance to the Force (i.e. destroying the Sith)) were not as "galaxy-altering" as they were built up to be or that things simply went VERY bad for the victorious Rebellion (on behalf of the rest of the galaxy subject to the Galactic/Imperial Empire) in 20-30 years. I will never believe either of those alternatives, regardless of whatever half-baked explanation that they attempt to put forth in future films.

Summary: As a big fan of the Star Wars films, I am very disappointed (but not at all surprised) to say that I dislike the film that purports to be Star Wars “VII”. Setting this film/new trilogy/series further in the future (say, 100-1000 years) may have worked better… but I knew Disney couldn’t resist trying to appeal to the fans of the original trilogy by cutting out connections to it (i.e. original cast members, similar scenes/objects, etc.). This has led to an unjustifiable state of affairs in the Star Wars galaxy as it appears in the film that purports to be Star Wars “VII” in a very short amount of time (20-30 years) that I cannot agree with or support as a fan.

I can respect this as i agree that this movie has many hiccups and the solo death was not needed as hes slated for episode 8 for some reason probably for flashback scenes

You wont fint many objective fans here though but i feel what you are saying

Episode 6 was our childhood happy ending and even in the expanded universe the big 3 lived til the end

But what can you do? Its out of our hands. Disney is gonna do as they please in order to make money.

Ill still watch and hope for the best because im a star wars fan and disney knows we are at their mercy but i see what you are saying

Id love for you to list more of your gripes with the movie.

 

[noblekane]

tried to watch phantom menace last night and just couldn't get through the overly long pod race and had to turn it off.

Lol phantom menace is the worst but some people actually liked it goes with the generations though. To the younger fans who werent around for the og trilogy that is their og trilogy

If they had kept that deleted scene of anakin beating up greedo tho

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Phantom Menace is Phantom Menace, but Revenge of the Sith is an underrated gem in a lukewarm trilogy really a fantastic flick

 

[Ingenious Bastard]

^ Truth. Revenge of the Sith is my top 3 for SW. It's an important part in the story too.


When Anakin yelled "I hate you" like a pre-teen girl I was

 

[sea manup]

am i the only one that didnt like the ROTS end fight?

was a bunch of cgi nonsense getting in the way of a meaningful fight 

 

[jc619er]

am i the only one that didnt like the ROTS end fight?

was a bunch of cgi nonsense getting in the way of a meaningful fight 

I'm right there with you. All the prequels are terrible. They all just look like convoluted video games with bad story telling.

 

[chris82790]

For me ROTS did not hold up as well as I remember it being when I re-watched it as a marathon preparing for TFA. Does it have entertaining moments, yes it does and it is no where near as bad as AOTC.

However, the shift from Anakin to Darth Vader is one of the most sudden shifts I've ever seen. He goes from a Jedi to killing younglings in less than 10 minutes. I would have liked to have seen a more fleshed out transition into Vader.

Also, the fact that he did not waste Palpatine after he said "To cheat death only one has achieved, but if we work together I know we can discover the secret," makes the Anakin character one of the dumbest characters in the galaxy. At this point Anakin should have said you've lied to me about knowing how to cheat death and in the process I have killed Mace Windu.

 

[Mark Antony]

^ Truth. Revenge of the Sith is my top 3 for SW. It's an important part in the story too.


When Anakin yelled "I hate you" like a pre-teen girl I was

Yeah what the hell. So cringeworthy. I don't agree with the rots love, whole point was Anakin's shift which was done poorly. Son had no inner turmoil or conflict, just straight

"murder all these mother *******, especially the lil ****** and you can keep yo ***** fam"
"aight, bet"

And just started wearing black.

 

[sea manup]

mace windu and yoda are some of the dumbest characters in the prequels

they sit around talking about danger, dont do anything, finally do something then get washed 

 

[firstclass]

That "I hate you" is I feel the hatred

 

[sea manup]

turns to darkside to save wife and unborn kids from death

*5 minutes later*

kills a bunch of kids

chokes out wife

 

[4one5]

Clone Wars isn't canon?

 

[Mark Antony]

mace windu and yoda are some of the dumbest characters in the prequels

they sit around talking about danger, dont do anything, finally do something then get washed 

This too, the jedi are the dumbest group of people with high spirituality, intelligence and powers i've ever seen. "Something's weird... naaaah, we're good".

 

[sea manup]

in a span of 30 years between the prequels and ESB how did yoda change from a boring idiot to a fun jedi master with lots of wisdom?

"do or do not, there is no try" is a dope quote that applies to anyone's life

"anger leads to hate, hate leads to fear, and fear leads to suffering" makes no sense and is just saying things for the sake of saying things 

 

[Betonblck]

Great to see some honesty here. I knew some of y'all loved those prequels.

Back when the prequels first came out, everybody loved them. Especially that first one, they were like the pod racing was so awesome! The last light saber fight with Darth Mall was great!!!

 

[Ingenious Bastard]

mace windu and yoda are some of the dumbest characters in the prequels

they sit around talking about danger, dont do anything, finally do something then get washed 

This too, the jedi are the dumbest group of people with high spirituality, intelligence and powers i've ever seen. "Something's weird... naaaah, we're good".

Yeah I never understood that. Luke could sense when Vader was on the same planet, Leia supposedly felt when Han died. But Yoda ...a Jedi master can't feel when the Emperor is right in his face ?

 

[sea manup]

tbh i think attack of the clones ruined ROTS for me

that movie was so bad i didnt see ep 6 in theaters, so I dont even have memories of that initial last fight hype 

 

[sea manup]

 

mace windu and yoda are some of the dumbest characters in the prequels

they sit around talking about danger, dont do anything, finally do something then get washed 

 

This too, the jedi are the dumbest group of people with high spirituality, intelligence and powers i've ever seen. "Something's weird... naaaah, we're good".

Yeah I never understood that. Luke could sense when Vader was on the same planet, Leia supposedly felt when Han died. But Yoda ...a Jedi master can't feel when the Emperor is right in his face ?

to be fair, they did start to suspect that palp was up to no good

so they let anakin, the same person they all are worried might turn to the darkside, check him out and hang around him

while sending his mentor/best friend on a one man mission to kill the most important general in the war while all the other jedi's sat at home and did nothing