SPUMC Thread - RIP STAN LEE - ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE out now

[kingkoopa]

I haven't seen a bad Tom Hardy movie....

not saying they don't exist... but I've yet to see a bad one

Ive only seen 1 decent Hardy lead movie.

Mad Max.

NT loves Bronson but I couldnt get past the first 20 min.

The one where he was with the mob was good too, notthe one where he playedtwins the one with the bar.

He'sa good actor but he just picks bad movies IMO.

Him and Gosling are hella overrrated on NT.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

What if the symbiote suit is in Homecoming after Tony takes the high tech suit away but they've been guarding that carefully?

Would be a terrible idea

 

[Mark Antony]

Who knows the extent of their deal. I just need to see a real connection with the symbiote hitting spidey first, regardless of which film they do it, or this universe Sony's trying to create is dead to me.

 

[Master Zik]

What if the symbiote suit is in Homecoming after Tony takes the high tech suit away but they've been guarding that carefully?

I'd rather them give it to us in infinity war. Go to space and get it. Have the collector have it in a case or have the Guardians bring it to earth after they discover the planet like the Bendis comics. The story is right in front of them. They'd literally have to go out their way to give the symbiote a different origin

This is about the Venom origin.

Not no symbiote origin.

The means which Spidey ends up in the black suit clearly don't matter. If we're talking about the symbiote showing up in Homecoming or Infinity War or w/e.

The key thing is Venom's origin and how he ends up being an enemy to Spider-Man. That can still be done.

Like yall don't even know when the Venom movie takes place

 

[ninjahood]

What are you talking about?

Sony was easily making bank with their underachieving Spider-Man movies.

When I say Fox is underachieving I'm talking about how much they are making compared to how much they should be making and they have all the mutants at their disposal. They don't have one movie that's even touched a billion or got close.

That **** is pathetic. We're talking about the X-Men. They got one great Wolverine movie and at best one good X-Men movie.

They just may have permanently hobbled their chances of ever seeing success the way the MCU have.

Sony still has a chance to do their thing in that regard. So no, they shouldn't be following any Fox blueprint if the end goal is to rake in billions. Why you think they did the deal with Marvel in the first place? They looking to get some of that MCU success to rub off on them.

because they're in da worst position outta all of da studios, Sony has mediocre movies AND a shallow character roster.

Yeah, you talking out your ***.

FoX-Men make the same mediocre movies and squander their character roster.

Sony currently is in a better position than Fox and DC just cuz they did the deal with the MCU.

The small roster is irrelevant when they have Spider-Man. Spider-Man movies make more than X-Men movies on average.

problem is venom's origins are inextricably linked to spiderman, da set up has to be perfect or else its gonna fail.

That's really only if you're still hung up on the comic origins.

da movie aint gonna do well if it doesn't provide fan service with source material...ya really want a Wolverine Origins Deadpool treatment with Venom ehh?

 

[ninjahood]

Who knows the extent of their deal. I just need to see a real connection with the symbiote hitting spidey first, regardless of which film they do it, or this universe Sony's trying to create is dead to me.

that's how i feel, they can do a "flash back scene" to quickly set it up.

 

[Master Zik]

What are you talking about?

Sony was easily making bank with their underachieving Spider-Man movies.

When I say Fox is underachieving I'm talking about how much they are making compared to how much they should be making and they have all the mutants at their disposal. They don't have one movie that's even touched a billion or got close.

That **** is pathetic. We're talking about the X-Men. They got one great Wolverine movie and at best one good X-Men movie.

They just may have permanently hobbled their chances of ever seeing success the way the MCU have.

Sony still has a chance to do their thing in that regard. So no, they shouldn't be following any Fox blueprint if the end goal is to rake in billions. Why you think they did the deal with Marvel in the first place? They looking to get some of that MCU success to rub off on them.

because they're in da worst position outta all of da studios, Sony has mediocre movies AND a shallow character roster.

Yeah, you talking out your ***.

FoX-Men make the same mediocre movies and squander their character roster.

Sony currently is in a better position than Fox and DC just cuz they did the deal with the MCU.

The small roster is irrelevant when they have Spider-Man. Spider-Man movies make more than X-Men movies on average.

problem is venom's origins are inextricably linked to spiderman, da set up has to be perfect or else its gonna fail.

That's really only if you're still hung up on the comic origins.

da movie aint gonna do well if it doesn't provide fan service with source material...ya really want a Wolverine Origins Deadpool treatment with Venom ehh?

Fan service with source material and following the exact sequence of events are two different things.

If you really think one can't be done without the other, I can see why you keep spouting all this bull ****.

@ bringing up Wolverine Origins. Yet Fox has a blueprint that should be followed.

 

[ninjahood]

Fox got it right later though... can't say da same for Sony those amazing Spider-Man's were butt juice.

 

[Master Zik]

Sony got it right the second they did the deal with Marvel 2-3 years ago and Spidey showed up in Civil War in 2016.

Fox got it right when? This year with Logan? Wasn't last year with Apocalypse but I guess we'll ignore and pretend it was with Deadpool even though the studio didnt even want to make the movie.

Go back to 2012 and look at the FoX-Men movies and then the Sony Spidey movies.

 

[ninjahood]

days of Future past >>>> spider man 3 and ASM 1&2

Fox is only problem now is integration of Fantastic four, meanwhile Sony has to set up a universe that can give them leverage so they're not Disney MCU's bottom *****

Sony wants to have a universe (& profits) away from da main MCU they can narrate on their on terms...Fox has that now.

 

[IATT]

Does apocalypse and fan4tastic not exist?


Also, Spiderman 3 made almost 900 mill

Both Amazing Spidermans made over 700

 

[ninjahood]

Does apocalypse and fan4tastic not exist?


Also, Spiderman 3 made almost 900 mill

Both Amazing Spidermans made over 700

they were also high *** budgets.

what ya not giving Fox Credit for at least having a sustainable X-universe away from MCU, Sony can't even do that right YET.

they have da potential to RIDE MCU's coatails and make Venom with Spider-Man potential halo effect sprinkled in to make it congruent, but they have less room for error cuz Spider-Man doesn't have a huge gallery of characters

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Some really hopeful cats about this Spider-Man-less Spider-Man shared universe

 

[IATT]

6 xmen movies

4 F4 movies

3 wolverine movies

2 daredevil movies

1 deadpool movie

 

[lamekilla]

Deliver us from Sony

 

[IATT]

Some really hopeful cats about this Spider-Man-less Spider-Man shared universe

Hope and expectations aren't the same thing

I hope all of these movies are great.. I expect very little from anything outside of MCU

 

[Master Zik]

days of Future past >>>> spider man 3 and ASM 1&2

Are we talking about these movies being good or them making money?

Cuz you seem to switch back and forth when you want

Sony made a bad Spidey flick in SM3 and it made over 100 mil more than DofP. ASM, another underwhelming Spidey movie, made 10 mill more than DofP. DofP only did better than ASM2.

Sony has proved they can make lousy Spider-Man movies and Fox won't be any competition.

Fox is only problem now is integration of Fantastic four

No, that's their biggest problem.

They couldn't even follow up the box office success of DofP with another hit with Apocalypse.

meanwhile Sony has to set up a universe that can give them leverage so they're not Disney MCU's bottom *****

Before Sony did the deal with Marvel they were doing better than FoX-Men movies.

Sony wants to have a universe (& profits) away from da main MCU they can narrate on their on terms...Fox has that now.

Fox had that since the first X-Men though.

What Sony wants is an expanded shared cinematic universe that can compete with the MCU. Fox never has had that. Neither has DC. You talking like Fox been stunting off of years of success and they are the ones to look at if you want to succeed Stop it b.

Its been 17 years and Fox is not getting their **** together. They still don't know how to incorporate the F4 in their shared universe.

And lets be honest Fox barely has much of a shared universe currently. Their main X-Men movies are now jumping around decades looking for success. Their final Wolverine movie that was finally a hit was set 5 years in the future The Deadpool movie they didn't want to make is their only real success and who knows what period that is set but that's the only franchise they got that'll have a spinoff worth anything.

They can't even get their Gambit movie to get a buzz.

 

[ASE]

They can't even get their Gambit movie to get a buzz.

This is the only thing I care about from the xmen crew. I've been waiting years for this. They keep throwing out wolverine movies that I don't give a damn about but I can't get one solo remy film?

 

[kingkoopa]

DOFP might be the best comic movie outside of DK.

Its not fair to compare movies to those two.

 

[IATT]

DOFP might be the best comic movie outside of DK.

Its not fair to compare movies to those two.

Nope

 

[kingkoopa]

Not sure if your agreeing or disagreeing

 

[IATT]

Not sure if your agreeing or disagreeing

Days of future past is at best the 3rd best fox marvel movie.. could have easily have been 4th or 5th, if Logan and the wolverine could close

If you include kingsman, DOFP slides down just the list of fox CBM films

Not sure what other CBM fox has done, whether it's graphic novels or smaller comics

 

[Mark Antony]

DOFP might be the best comic movie outside of DK.

Its not fair to compare movies to those two.

Man what

 

[kvsm23vs24]

What the hell did I just read. DOFP was cool,but really?

 

[kingkoopa]

DOFP was better then any SM movie, any other X-Men movie, and any F4 movie. Better then Deadpool.

Its on WS level.

Im not seeing how this is debatable other then top teir.

DK, IM, WS, DOFP.