Originally Posted by retr0sxual
Paging BTonNT.
That dude murdered a thread about homosexuality a few years back.
He said something like, "There's an advantage in making people think that homosexuality isn't a choice."
lol wow someone actually remembered me and valued my opinion.
(I dosomewhat remember that argument too)
I watched the video and read a few pages of comments but Im not too interested in getting into too many long, drawn out NT debates anymore but Ill share myopinion. Although I think there is validity to that statement, that's not exactly where I'd start a debate because I do personally believe that forthe most part homosexuality is
not a choice, though I also don't believe people are born as homosexuals or that it is geneticallydetermined. From my own observations and discernment, I personally believe it's largely determined by environmental influences. I see trends in a lot ofthe parent relationships from many of the people Ive known, seen, and heard speak (including at high school awareness/tolerance lectures w/ testimonials onfamily which I remember specifically, etc)...and I see that even here...the young man in the video obviously had an overly-aggressive, abusive father forexample and has/is suffering pursuant trauma...(one might suppose the claim that he was only beaten on that instance because his father discovered he was"homosexual", but based even on how obviously extreme and intense that was, Id place my prediction on the probability that he and his father had ahistory of abuse...if not physical, then emotional and at the very least we see the father was dysfunctional and so their relationship was clearlydysfunctional.) I think homosexuals are just individuals who are expressing/projecting the influences of either an overly dominant and/or an overly submissive(often manipulative) parental figure M or F in sexual relationships and just as we see in many people, are *subconsciously (*usually) driven and seeking toreplace a parental figure or to be that replacement figure in different instances...similar expressions we see in a lot of heterosexuals and the relationshipsthey pursue and create. Traumas and influences just manifest themselves differently according to individuals, circumstances, extremes, etc. I believe thecompulsion in homosexuality is about relief and release towards the subject of resentment...(and Ive personally seen behavior and examples that testifies tothis in people Ive known and their relationships). Anyhow, this is just my opinion and Im not looking to impose it on anyone or change anyone elses. But imoI definitely dont see it as logical to believe that somehow it was genetically determined for a male to have the inclination towards sexual
acts with another male or female/female. A blunt ex: the penis has a clear physiological function as does the $+#!. <-- theexcretory canal
After all, "homosexual" individuals are
biologically capable of procreation yet are not
sexually capable (through homosexual
acts)...the biological/genetic argument alwaysfalls well short to personal claims and sentiment imo.
When honestly forming an opinion, I dont think people should ignore obvious behavioral patterns and histories in individuals, including but not exclusive to"bisexuals" for example and cases of homosexuals who later regress back towards "heterosexuality" either temporarily or permanently....andthere are cases of both which speak in themselves. I don't think we can logically make a single sweeping statement regarding any entire group over anysubject matter but we can take notice of collective trends we see among sets of individuals. AND I think you have to be both compassionate
andobjective. Passing judgement over anyone isn't a fair exercise unless you yourself are perfect and at the same time, taking blindly emotional stancesisn't really rational for whichever position you hold.
Anyhow, gay is not "the new black". though there are clearly instances where people try to entangle the two subjects which I see largely as apolitical manipulation (which is what I think was the focus of my previous argument). As explained, my belief is that "homosexuality" is largelybased in compensation and projection. I don't at all hate or condone hate towards any person because of their sexual inclinations or anything else forthat matter but I'm also not in line with a lot of the proposed agenda or the manufactured beliefs regarding this topic....including this currentone---that homosexuality is synonymous with race. that's just false.
so that's my opinion since I was asked.
