So we're honoring homosexuals now?

[18th letter]

Originally Posted by LovinIt73

I bet this has probably been said but it's just my 2 cents:

Denzel won an Oscar for being the BEST ACTOR. Not the best black actor, but the best actor. Same with Forest Whittaker. Halle Berry won an Oscar for being the best actress, not the best black actress. Why can't a gay person just win an award for being the best in a field that doesn't have to objectify and single them out? And why can't they nominate a straight person for being most fabulous? That right there says that this award if a "Best Gay Person" award. Everyone strives for equal rights, and we're just slowing the *#*!%%% process by singling these people out. To me it doesn't make a difference if its a good thing like an award. Defining lines between two types of people only magnifies the difference. A perfect world where all races, genders, sexual orientations, etc. live together in harmony requires the population to not see or not care about differences in that population. Having awards or anything that singles out a certain sect of the population only strengthens those defining lines between different groups. /Rant

Cliff Notes: The award is %##+#!%+

Well said, my man.

I think the topic of homosexuality should be banned from NT for good though.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

It is important to note that serious research on the biology, innateness, or genetic determinants of homosexuality has only just recently begun. Exactly opposite to what the public is being led to believe, the research that has been done thus far suggests that genetic factors account for, at most, but a small proportion of the risk. J. M. Bailey and R. C. Pillard, two of the major researchers most widely cited as having demonstrated that "homosexuality is genetic," were forced to admit otherwise by the results of their own research. They themselves wrote:

These studies were designed to detect heritable variation, and if it was present, to counter the prevalent belief that sexual orientation is largely the product of family interactions and the social environment.... Although male and female homosexuality appear to be at least somewhat heritable, environment must also be of considerable importance in their origins.{1

"The Biology of Homosexuality: Science or Politics? - Dr. Jeffrey Satinover

 

[faustoxd]

Originally Posted by 18th letter

Originally Posted by LovinIt73

I bet this has probably been said but it's just my 2 cents:

Denzel won an Oscar for being the BEST ACTOR. Not the best black actor, but the best actor. Same with Forest Whittaker. Halle Berry won an Oscar for being the best actress, not the best black actress. Why can't a gay person just win an award for being the best in a field that doesn't have to objectify and single them out? And why can't they nominate a straight person for being most fabulous? That right there says that this award if a "Best Gay Person" award. Everyone strives for equal rights, and we're just slowing the *#*!%%% process by singling these people out. To me it doesn't make a difference if its a good thing like an award. Defining lines between two types of people only magnifies the difference. A perfect world where all races, genders, sexual orientations, etc. live together in harmony requires the population to not see or not care about differences in that population. Having awards or anything that singles out a certain sect of the population only strengthens those defining lines between different groups. /Rant

Cliff Notes: The award is %##+#!%+

Well said, my man.

I think the topic of homosexuality should be banned from NT for good though.

too true ma man.

 

[sorkoram]

let em be

 

[Master Zik]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Yall trying to say incest and homosexuality are not in the same basket made a poor argument. 1st we're not programmed to commit incest then the main factor is the genetic defects of the offspring. As if the act of incest guarantees offspring.

I forgot the thread but somebody posted a link to a site that was seriously dedicated to incest. Think it was called GSA or something.

If somebody came in here with a blank slate toward the two issues they'd easily point out the hypocrisy in the advocates for homosexual tolerance.

Not that I really care much about either but the argument "points" were extremely piss poor.

if you truly feel that those two are comparable.....you're an idiot.

You must be a bigger idiot if that's what you're assuming from my post but maybe that's all you could've responded with knowing Idid not say that.

Don't get mad cuz your argument on why the two are not comparable was stupid.

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

What is the difference between two consenting adult family members engaging in sexual and romantic relations?

Y'all going to act like incest can't be consensual and homosexuality can't be a result of trauma?

And you have the nerve to laugh and call other people ignorant?

family members reproducing is not right for obvious reasons.

other than that, as weird as it seems, i don't see a reason to deny family members the legal right to be together. polygamy...same deal.

the cause of homosexuality is irrelevant when it comes to discussing gay rights.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

What is the difference between two consenting adult family members engaging in sexual and romantic relations?

Y'all going to act like incest can't be consensual and homosexuality can't be a result of trauma?

And you have the nerve to laugh and call other people ignorant?

family members reproducing is not right for obvious reasons.

other than that, as weird as it seems, i have no problem with it. same with polygamy.

the cause of homosexuality is irrelevant when it comes to discussing gay rights.

Who has a better chance of creating healthy offspring through procreation...a gay couple or and incestuous couple?

Polygamy is a completely different discussion but I don't have a beef with that either.

Gays should have all the rights of ever other human being, i'm not disputing that but just like incest should not be lauded as a positive and healthyactivity, neither should homosexuality.

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

What is the difference between two consenting adult family members engaging in sexual and romantic relations?

Y'all going to act like incest can't be consensual and homosexuality can't be a result of trauma?

And you have the nerve to laugh and call other people ignorant?

family members reproducing is not right for obvious reasons.

other than that, as weird as it seems, i have no problem with it. same with polygamy.

the cause of homosexuality is irrelevant when it comes to discussing gay rights.

Who has a better chance of creating healthy offspring through procreation...a gay couple or and incestuous couple?

Polygamy is a completely different discussion but I don't have a beef with that either.

Gays should have all the rights of ever other human being, i'm not disputing that but just like incest should not be lauded as a positive and healthy activity, neither should homosexuality.

the fact that gay couples can't reproduce means.....what, exactly? besides a welcome change from the overpopulation our planet is currentlyfacing and a chance for the millions of kids in foster homes to get to be a part of a real family?

imo he only thing unhealthy would be to keep homosexuality taboo, to avoid exposing kids to the idea of it, etc. etc. so that kids who are gay have a hard timedealing with it, feel uncomfortable coming out of the closet, or feel that they have no positive role models like them. that's where the real mental healthproblems occur.

i don't really disagree with what you're saying now.....but it sure seems different than what you were saying earlier in this thread + in other ones.

 

[prurientsole]

This thread

Until someone comes out and says "I only have sex in order to have children", this whole natural vs. unnatural argument doesn't hold water.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Thats the point I have always been making people just automatically reject any sentiment that is deemed anti-homosexual.

I'm not passing judgment on individual members of the community rather the act of homosexuality itself.

The fact that they can't reproduce means that is not a healthy human condition, which it is currently being perpetrated as. Im not paranoid enough to thinkthat its going to take over the world but i'm not naive enough not to notice that more sexually confused children are leaning towards homosexuality atyounger ages now due to its acceptance and promotion in popular media. When you redraw gender and societal lines the youth are programmed to react accordingly.

And many homosexual couples decide not to adopt and pursue alternative methods of pregnancy, so that can't really be deemed as a positive aspect tohomosexuality either...or we should start holding sterile couples in high esteem just because they can't procreate and may potentially adopt.

The body is not made for this type of activity...FACT.

 

[airmaxpenny1]

My problem with it is how it portrays homosexuals. Not all of them are flaming charictures of themselves.

It's like having a Who's your favorite black person contest with Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ruckus, and Soulja Boy as the contestants...

It is offesive to homosexuals, people who did real change like Barney Frank or Bayard Rustin.

 

[Jordan8]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and anolder person.

 

[marath0n]

Originally Posted by 18th letter

Originally Posted by LovinIt73

I bet this has probably been said but it's just my 2 cents:

Denzel won an Oscar for being the BEST ACTOR. Not the best black actor, but the best actor. Same with Forest Whittaker. Halle Berry won an Oscar for being the best actress, not the best black actress. Why can't a gay person just win an award for being the best in a field that doesn't have to objectify and single them out? And why can't they nominate a straight person for being most fabulous? That right there says that this award if a "Best Gay Person" award. Everyone strives for equal rights, and we're just slowing the *#*!%%% process by singling these people out. To me it doesn't make a difference if its a good thing like an award. Defining lines between two types of people only magnifies the difference. A perfect world where all races, genders, sexual orientations, etc. live together in harmony requires the population to not see or not care about differences in that population. Having awards or anything that singles out a certain sect of the population only strengthens those defining lines between different groups. /Rant

Cliff Notes: The award is %##+#!%+

Well said, my man.

I think the topic of homosexuality should be banned from NT for good though.

Basically. Too much animosity and noone ever changes anyone's mind. The homosexual sympathizers are the ones who catch the most feelings.

 

[airmaxpenny1]

abeautifulhaze wrote:

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Thats the point I have always been making people just automatically reject any sentiment that is deemed anti-homosexual.

I'm not passing judgment on individual members of the community rather the act of homosexuality itself.

The fact that they can't reproduce means that is not a healthy human condition, which it is currently being perpetrated as. Im not paranoid enough to think that its going to take over the world but i'm not naive enough not to notice that more sexually confused children are leaning towards homosexuality at younger ages now due to its acceptance and promotion in popular media. When you redraw gender and societal lines the youth are programmed to react accordingly.

And many homosexual couples decide not to adopt and pursue alternative methods of pregnancy, so that can't really be deemed as a positive aspect to homosexuality either...or we should start holding sterile couples in high esteem just because they can't procreate and may potentially adopt.

The body is not made for this type of activity...FACT.




Have you read any Kinsey by any chance and what�do you think about�the fact that�he thinks that no one si realy 100% gay or straight and sexuality can't beput into terms like that.
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[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and an older person.

EXACTLY.

The whole argument for homosexuality can be made for any other deviant activity. Homosexuals just have the strongest "lobby" and media influence,allowing them to rapidly redraw the cultural and social boundaries in Western society.

The same cases can be made for pedophilia and incest but people are programmed to seeing those things as immoral and adverse, while turning a blind eye toalmost exact parallels with homosexuality.

Many people are engaged in all of those type of things behind doors, "not hurting anybody"...but once you start accepting it as healthy mainstreamactivities....thats when its ranks will grow.

 

[fade on you]

Originally Posted by NothinAfter

Originally Posted by Fade On You

Originally Posted by DARTH DNZY

--It aint really about the award per se, its what it stands for. Completely unnecessary IMO.
--A homosexual can wear a shirt that says gay pride and not get any heat for it...Then a straight person wears a "straight pride" t-shirt and is labeled a hate monger. SMH.

The same way a black person can wear a Obama "my president is black" shirt and if a white person wore a "my president is white" shirt they would be labeled racist.

what is the point of wearing a shirt saying "my president is white"

What is the point of wearing one saying my president is black?

 

[what are you gonna do]

OP crying over nothing

/thread

 

[charmcitykid]

this is not at all surprising. homosexuality is being pushed more and more in our society as an acceptable lifestyle, which it is not. every tv show they havesome type of homosexuality incorporated. some don't know that many if not most of our world leaders are closet homosexuals (bohemian grove, anyone??

)

just like disney, which is a huge pedophili institution, they are trying to get ppl to accept this lifestyle at younger and younger ages. one must askthemselves, why in the hell would something like this be incorporated into a supposed TEEN show??

 

[18th letter]

Originally Posted by Fade On You

Originally Posted by NothinAfter

Originally Posted by Fade On You

Originally Posted by DARTH DNZY

--It aint really about the award per se, its what it stands for. Completely unnecessary IMO.
--A homosexual can wear a shirt that says gay pride and not get any heat for it...Then a straight person wears a "straight pride" t-shirt and is labeled a hate monger. SMH.

The same way a black person can wear a Obama "my president is black" shirt and if a white person wore a "my president is white" shirt they would be labeled racist.

what is the point of wearing a shirt saying "my president is white"

What is the point of wearing one saying my president is black?

Lyrics to a song

 

[nothinafter]

Originally Posted by Fade On You

Originally Posted by NothinAfter

Originally Posted by Fade On You

Originally Posted by DARTH DNZY

--It aint really about the award per se, its what it stands for. Completely unnecessary IMO.
--A homosexual can wear a shirt that says gay pride and not get any heat for it...Then a straight person wears a "straight pride" t-shirt and is labeled a hate monger. SMH.

The same way a black person can wear a Obama "my president is black" shirt and if a white person wore a "my president is white" shirt they would be labeled racist.

what is the point of wearing a shirt saying "my president is white"

What is the point of wearing one saying my president is black?

wearing a shirt saying "president is black" is actually celebrating the fact that for the very FIRST time in history america is witnessing a blackman being our leader why say "president is white"....we already witness that already....so whats the point.......i can see if we didnt...butc'mon now

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Have you read any Kinsey by any chance and what�do you think about�the fact that�he thinks that no one si realy 100% gay or straight and sexuality can't be put into terms like that.
��

No I haven't read Kinsey.

I do believe that healthy children are born with the desire to pass on their genetic material and to be attracted to the opposite sex. I believe that humanbiology clearly lays down the instructions for hetero-sexual relations. But I also believe that cultural conditioning can make almost any creature adapt tostimulus and environmental determinants.

Biologically healthy children raised to be feminine from birth will display feminine characteristics and in a society where femininity and masculinity arerigid polar opposites, they have an increased chance of becoming involved in homosexual relationships.

 

[cwrite78]

Originally Posted by Whateversclever

At the teen choice awards last night there was a new award category called the "Choice Fabulous"

The nominees were Michael Urie of "Ugly Betty," "!*%$% Eye for the Straight Guy"'s Carson Kressley, gossipmonger Perez Hilton, Miss J of "America's Next Top Model," and Rex Lee of "Entourage."
who all are homosexuals...

So now I'm the type of guy who doesn't even watch any of these awards, and my view on gays is... you do you.. imma do me

but now theyre giving out an award to honor them at a TEEN award show? Where my little brother watches that..
Do you really want your kids watching this kind of stuff?

Cliffnotes:
Teen choice awards
Award to honor homosexuals "Fabulous award"
Your thoughts on it?

why should i be worried? not like they are walking around nude.

 

[queencitysneakerqueen]

Inappropriate for a teen award show

 

[lobotomybeats]

All I can say is I hope Jesus wasn't watching the Teen Choice Awards. When did the Teen Choice Awards become Sodom and Gomorrah? If there was any justicein the world, God would have stricken the Teen Choice Awards with plagues, fire and brimstone leaving only the Jonas Brothers unharmed (they wear purity ringsand god **!%#@* loves those things). Seriously, once we start to treat homosexuals as equals to us normal, vagina pounding or Penis receptive (vaginal only ofcouse), we are advocating the worst of lifestyles. It's in the bible kids, go to a hotel and read one (only if ou are there to sleep or have sex withsomeone of the opposite sex though)! I just can't imagine the immoral running rampant amongst us if we start to actually acknowledge their presence. Gross.I don't know this person (gross) but someone told me that they know this one guy who actually likes another guy! Disgusting. Not like in just thetrendy-to-be-gay way, but actually really loves the guy. Can you believe the balls of some people? I mean they can't have babies. That is why god put ushere.

 

[nnarum]

Who won straight of the year?


This is purely disgusting. I hope it doesn't inspire some kid to just decide to be gay now... They are taking an intimate moment and choosing a"best"?