So we're honoring homosexuals now?

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and an older person.

The same cases can be made for pedophilia and incest but people are programmed to seeing those things as immoral and adverse, while turning a blind eye to almost exact parallels with homosexuality.

no. i understand the point you;'re trying to make, but you're taking it too far here.

sex between two consenting adults ≠ sex with children or animals. exact parallels?

everyone acknowledges that it is not best, from an evolutionary/biological standpoint to be gay.

ok. is that really how we are judging members of society these days? i guess we should also be outraged that asthmatics or diabetics or people with terminalillnesses are portrayed positively on television. lord knows that's not "natural."

 

[cherryred]

teen choice isn't that serious.

I don't care if they have a who's most gay award.

If we're going to base our values by bible lore, then they'd be saying dark skin is a curse and people with that would have to not be accepted either.

It's not like they're pedos or something like that.

 

[emmanuelabor]

abeautifulhaze got arguments for yo as...err butt?
if I were judging this debate, I'd say he's winning

 

[DownByLaw]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

i can't believe you guys are really upset about this...

NT is a place full of intolerate people, the bashing going on in here is almost right on "q".

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and an older person.

The same cases can be made for pedophilia and incest but people are programmed to seeing those things as immoral and adverse, while turning a blind eye to almost exact parallels with homosexuality.

no. i understand the point you;'re trying to make, but you're taking it too far here.

sex between two consenting adults ≠ sex with children or animals. exact parallels?

everyone acknowledges that it is not best, from an evolutionary/biological standpoint to be gay.

ok. is that really how we are judging members of society these days? i guess we should also be outraged that asthmatics or diabetics or people with terminal illnesses are portrayed positively on television. lord knows that's not "natural."

Once again...the logic and reality can't be side-stepped and when it is examined without bias...the truth becomes clear.

The quoted excerpts are not relating to bestiality, rather conceptual relations between human beings.

And that the crazy part....not everyone accepts that, just go back in this thread and you have NT teenagers who now deem the vagina and a-nus as biologicalequals and seeing anal sex and harmless as shaking hands...because "they both carry germs". The misinformation and perversion campaign is stunningand that at least has to be admitted. These children are venturing into territory that they have no idea about. We are accepting homosexuality as a culture andwe still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive andhealthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. Anunnatural state for healthy human beings.

 

[nocomment6]

so.

 

[emmanuelabor]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

We are accepting homosexuality as a culture and we still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

word.
I couldnt agree more.
its rare to ever have healthy hetero sexual lifestyles shown to us. It seems like we're force fed promiscuity, "broken homes", and homosexualityby the shovel.

 

[the fame]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

All I can say is I hope Jesus wasn't watching the Teen Choice Awards. When did the Teen Choice Awards become Sodom and Gomorrah? If there was any justice in the world, God would have stricken the Teen Choice Awards with plagues, fire and brimstone leaving only the Jonas Brothers unharmed (they wear purity rings and god **!%#@* loves those things). Seriously, once we start to treat homosexuals as equals to us normal, vagina pounding or Penis receptive (vaginal only of couse), we are advocating the worst of lifestyles. It's in the bible kids, go to a hotel and read one (only if ou are there to sleep or have sex with someone of the opposite sex though)! I just can't imagine the immoral running rampant amongst us if we start to actually acknowledge their presence. Gross. I don't know this person (gross) but someone told me that they know this one guy who actually likes another guy! Disgusting. Not like in just the trendy-to-be-gay way, but actually really loves the guy. Can you believe the balls of some people? I mean they can't have babies. That is why god put us here.

Shut up.

Every post you feel the need to talk on Religion Christianity even when it doesnt have anything to do with topic at hand.

 

[nationaltruckerdave]

That's sad..

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by THE FAME

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

All I can say is I hope Jesus wasn't watching the Teen Choice Awards. When did the Teen Choice Awards become Sodom and Gomorrah? If there was any justice in the world, God would have stricken the Teen Choice Awards with plagues, fire and brimstone leaving only the Jonas Brothers unharmed (they wear purity rings and god **!%#@* loves those things). Seriously, once we start to treat homosexuals as equals to us normal, vagina pounding or Penis receptive (vaginal only of couse), we are advocating the worst of lifestyles. It's in the bible kids, go to a hotel and read one (only if ou are there to sleep or have sex with someone of the opposite sex though)! I just can't imagine the immoral running rampant amongst us if we start to actually acknowledge their presence. Gross. I don't know this person (gross) but someone told me that they know this one guy who actually likes another guy! Disgusting. Not like in just the trendy-to-be-gay way, but actually really loves the guy. Can you believe the balls of some people? I mean they can't have babies. That is why god put us here.

Shut up.

Every post you feel the need to talk on Religion Christianity even when it doesnt have anything to do with topic at hand.

Yeah, I was shaking my head at that as well.

No one even mentioned religion in this thread but its the usual shield that people chose to run behind in these discussions, on both sides of the aisle.

 

[incredibleev]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze


Biologically healthy children raised to be feminine from birth will display feminine characteristics and in a society where femininity and masculinity are rigid polar opposites, they have an increased chance of becoming involved in homosexual relationships.

you lost me right here...because this doesnt make sense

how can a child raised to be feminine have increased chance of being gay while in a society where femininity and masculinity are "rigid polaropposites". Wouldn't a child raised feminine have an increased chance in a society where homosexuality is MORE accepted. Obviously masculinity andfemininity are opposites! What the +@%+ is being raised feminine anyway? What is this statement? I don't know where you stand in this argument...then againi dont feel like reading all the pgs in here

my stance remains that being homosexual is a direct result of the environment you are in. That includes the people you surround yourself with, the people whohappen to surround you at vulnerable stages in your life, your family and how they raise you. It has absolutely nothing to do with genes, nothing to do withbiology, none of that. Therefore, I aslo believe that being STRAIGHT comes from the same exact situations and circumstances. It is not biological or genetic.

 

[prurientsole]

abeautifulhaze wrote:

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive and healthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. An unnatural state for healthy human beings.

Based upon that statement right there, explain to me the difference between a homosexual couple and a heterosexual couple who chooses to use birthcontrol, get snipped/have their tubes tied, what have you.

Because birth control has been promoted as positive and healthy for years, yet, by the use of those products/methods, the end result is no different than thatof a homosexual couple. Should heterosexual couples who choose not to have children be derided for living in an "unnatural state"?

I believe that's the crux or your argument, correct? That it's unnatural for human beings to engage in sexual relationships that don't have thepotential to produce offspring?

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by IncredibleEv

I don't know where you stand in this argument...then again i dont feel like reading all the pgs in here

my stance remains that being homosexual is a direct result of the environment you are in. That includes the people you surround yourself with, the people who happen to surround you at vulnerable stages in your life, your family and how they raise you. It has absolutely nothing to do with genes, nothing to do with biology, none of that. Therefore, I aslo believe that being STRAIGHT comes from the same exact situations and circumstances. It is not biological or genetic.

If you read the previous pages it would make sense.

I was responding to Airmaxpenny's question about being born 100% gay or 100% straight.

Where there is strong masculine and feminine roles, a "feminine" individual will levitiate toward female societal roles as expressed in the medicaldefinition of Gender confusion on the previous page...and we are living in a society where homosexuality is increasingly accepted. They are giving out awardson Teen shows now...things like that help facilitate the conversion and/or experimentation.

We are essentially making the same argument but except I beleive that there are definitely biological factors for a very small population, just like how somepeople are genetically pre-disoped to obesity. Similarly, eventhough a small of amout of genetic determinism exists...the vast majority of obese people arethat way due to diet, exercise and lifestlye habits.

 

[incredibleev]

word i got you

ill disagree in that obesity is attributed to the physical; which is all biological, but homosexuality is attributed to the mental; where environment is themajor factor

saying that teen award shows is helping facilitate experimentation and feminine individuals will lean towards female societal roles is just an argument insaying homosexuality is wrong. in other words, what's the point of even saying that in regards to this discussion.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by THE FAME

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

All I can say is I hope Jesus wasn't watching the Teen Choice Awards. When did the Teen Choice Awards become Sodom and Gomorrah? If there was any justice in the world, God would have stricken the Teen Choice Awards with plagues, fire and brimstone leaving only the Jonas Brothers unharmed (they wear purity rings and god **!%#@* loves those things). Seriously, once we start to treat homosexuals as equals to us normal, vagina pounding or Penis receptive (vaginal only of couse), we are advocating the worst of lifestyles. It's in the bible kids, go to a hotel and read one (only if ou are there to sleep or have sex with someone of the opposite sex though)! I just can't imagine the immoral running rampant amongst us if we start to actually acknowledge their presence. Gross. I don't know this person (gross) but someone told me that they know this one guy who actually likes another guy! Disgusting. Not like in just the trendy-to-be-gay way, but actually really loves the guy. Can you believe the balls of some people? I mean they can't have babies. That is why god put us here.

Shut up.

Every post you feel the need to talk on Religion Christianity even when it doesnt have anything to do with topic at hand.

Yeah, I was shaking my head at that as well.

No one even mentioned religion in this thread but its the usual shield that people chose to run behind in these discussions, on both sides of the aisle.

Fair enough, what evidence is there that Homosexuality destroys the 'moral fabric?' Isn't that insinuating that homosexuality isimmoral? If it weren't for religion, would anyone consider homosexuality immoral?


by the way, these remarks aren't meant to incite. They are just questions...

 

[osmosiskix]

smh................

 

[cherryred]

ITT: we force our morals and values on other people.

 

[fade on you]

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by PrurientSole

abeautifulhaze wrote:

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive and healthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. An unnatural state for healthy human beings.

Based upon that statement right there, explain to me the difference between a homosexual couple and a heterosexual couple who chooses to use birth control, get snipped/have their tubes tied, what have you.

Because birth control has been promoted as positive and healthy for years, yet, by the use of those products/methods, the end result is no different than that of a homosexual couple. Should heterosexual couples who choose not to have children be derided for living in an "unnatural state"?

I believe that's the crux or your argument, correct? That it's unnatural for human beings to engage in sexual relationships that don't have the potential to produce offspring?



You are seizing in on one excerpt from a larger statement, which will only lead to a counter-productive circular argument.

Thats not the crux of my argument, just one facet of it but i'll try to address the question as best as I can....

You are comparing the choice of a hetero-sexual couple to the default result of a homosexualrelationship. Those are healthy humans who are preventing themselves from copulation.

If we are to believe that homosexuality is a natural state...then how can you compare it to a drug induced state of barrenness? There is no real parallel, justa similar end result.

If your decide to permanently park your automobile to conserve energy and money...is it the same as having no vehicle and no possibility of having a vehicle?And to carry the point further, believing that having no possibility of owning an automobile should be the accepted state of things.

If you are able to drive a car but chose not to....that's your personal decision. If you have no possibility of owning an automobile in a society wherethere is an abundant supply of autos...there is something wrong with your situation.

And thats just in relation to your narrowly framed question...please don't extrapolate that to the larger discussion.

If homosexuality is determined at birth, then you would you must compare it to sterility at birth. That's the correct comparison as far as fertility andconception goes.

People can chose to do just about anything they want....but we are talking about what you and many others are falsely labeling to be a pre-disposed geneticdestiny. Rather than a largely environmentally determined arrangement.

The point of this my argument is, sterility at birth is not applauded and celebrated....then why is homosexuality (going along with the assumption that it isgenetically determined)?

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by THE FAME

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

All I can say is I hope Jesus wasn't watching the Teen Choice Awards. When did the Teen Choice Awards become Sodom and Gomorrah? If there was any justice in the world, God would have stricken the Teen Choice Awards with plagues, fire and brimstone leaving only the Jonas Brothers unharmed (they wear purity rings and god **!%#@* loves those things). Seriously, once we start to treat homosexuals as equals to us normal, vagina pounding or Penis receptive (vaginal only of couse), we are advocating the worst of lifestyles. It's in the bible kids, go to a hotel and read one (only if ou are there to sleep or have sex with someone of the opposite sex though)! I just can't imagine the immoral running rampant amongst us if we start to actually acknowledge their presence. Gross. I don't know this person (gross) but someone told me that they know this one guy who actually likes another guy! Disgusting. Not like in just the trendy-to-be-gay way, but actually really loves the guy. Can you believe the balls of some people? I mean they can't have babies. That is why god put us here.

Shut up.

Every post you feel the need to talk on Religion Christianity even when it doesnt have anything to do with topic at hand.

Yeah, I was shaking my head at that as well.

No one even mentioned religion in this thread but its the usual shield that people chose to run behind in these discussions, on both sides of the aisle.

Fair enough, what evidence is there that Homosexuality destroys the 'moral fabric?' Isn't that insinuating that homosexuality is immoral? If it weren't for religion, would anyone consider homosexuality immoral?


by the way, these remarks aren't meant to incite. They are just questions...

I got a question for you Lobo, the act of homosexual sex, how do you view it. Just a question on your feelings and stuff.

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and an older person.

The same cases can be made for pedophilia and incest but people are programmed to seeing those things as immoral and adverse, while turning a blind eye to almost exact parallels with homosexuality.

no. i understand the point you;'re trying to make, but you're taking it too far here.

sex between two consenting adults ≠ sex with children or animals. exact parallels?

everyone acknowledges that it is not best, from an evolutionary/biological standpoint to be gay.

ok. is that really how we are judging members of society these days? i guess we should also be outraged that asthmatics or diabetics or people with terminal illnesses are portrayed positively on television. lord knows that's not "natural."

Once again...the logic and reality can't be side-stepped and when it is examined without bias...the truth becomes clear.

The quoted excerpts are not relating to bestiality, rather conceptual relations between human beings.

And that the crazy part....not everyone accepts that, just go back in this thread and you have NT teenagers who now deem the vagina and a-nus as biological equals and seeing anal sex and harmless as shaking hands...because "they both carry germs". The misinformation and perversion campaign is stunning and that at least has to be admitted. These children are venturing into territory that they have no idea about. We are accepting homosexuality as a culture and we still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive and healthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. An unnatural state for healthy human beings.

bolded- you have some valid points, but then you write this trash?

last paragraph- you say "No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population " yet that's exactly what hashappened to homosexuals. if you can't see why positive portrayals of homosexuals is a well-intentioned effort to reverse some of that.......and instead seeit as some homosexually-controlled-media conspiracy.....i don't know what to tell you. other than your views on this and the views of many whitesupremacist groups sure are shockingly similar.

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and an older person.

The same cases can be made for pedophilia and incest but people are programmed to seeing those things as immoral and adverse, while turning a blind eye to almost exact parallels with homosexuality.

no. i understand the point you;'re trying to make, but you're taking it too far here.

sex between two consenting adults ≠ sex with children or animals. exact parallels?

everyone acknowledges that it is not best, from an evolutionary/biological standpoint to be gay.

ok. is that really how we are judging members of society these days? i guess we should also be outraged that asthmatics or diabetics or people with terminal illnesses are portrayed positively on television. lord knows that's not "natural."

Once again...the logic and reality can't be side-stepped and when it is examined without bias...the truth becomes clear.

The quoted excerpts are not relating to bestiality, rather conceptual relations between human beings.

And that the crazy part....not everyone accepts that, just go back in this thread and you have NT teenagers who now deem the vagina and a-nus as biological equals and seeing anal sex and harmless as shaking hands...because "they both carry germs". The misinformation and perversion campaign is stunning and that at least has to be admitted. These children are venturing into territory that they have no idea about. We are accepting homosexuality as a culture and we still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive and healthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. An unnatural state for healthy human beings.

bolded- you have some valid points, but then you write this trash?

last paragraph- you say "No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population " yet that's exactly what has happened to homosexuals. if you can't see why positive portrayals of homosexuals is a well-intentioned effort to reverse some of that.......and instead see it as some homosexually-controlled-media conspiracy.....i don't know what to tell you. other than your views on this and the views of many white supremacist groups sure are shockingly similar.

You have a point. But should it be broadcasted to our youth. I know dudes who aren't gay but out of curiosity they dabber in homosexuality. Sowouldn't it be fair for me to say I don't want our youth to be further influenced in that direction?

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze


Once again...the logic and reality can't be side-stepped and when it is examined without bias...the truth becomes clear.

The quoted excerpts are not relating to bestiality, rather conceptual relations between human beings.

And that the crazy part....not everyone accepts that, just go back in this thread and you have NT teenagers who now deem the vagina and a-nus as biological equals and seeing anal sex and harmless as shaking hands...because "they both carry germs". The misinformation and perversion campaign is stunning and that at least has to be admitted. These children are venturing into territory that they have no idea about. We are accepting homosexuality as a culture and we still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive and healthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. An unnatural state for healthy human beings.

bolded- you have some valid points, but then you write this trash?

last paragraph- you say "No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population " yet that's exactly what has happened to homosexuals. if you can't see why positive portrayals of homosexuals is a well-intentioned effort to reverse some of that.......and instead see it as some homosexually-controlled-media conspiracy.....i don't know what to tell you. other than your views on this and the views of many white supremacist groups sure are shockingly similar.

WHAT THE HELL?

I'm talking about the obvious ignorance and miseducation amongst adolescents on all sexual matters both h.omo and hetero-sexual...and you find a way toextrapolate something about my assumed views of white supremacy from that?

Wow.

emmanuelabor wrote:

---

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

We are accepting homosexuality as a culture and we still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

word.
I couldnt agree more.
its rare to ever have healthy hetero sexual lifestyles shown to us. It seems like we're force fed promiscuity, "broken homes", and homosexuality by the shovel.

The point I was trying to make with that paragraph was that simple.

Either you have some type of ulterior thought process that defends white supremacy, causing you to see an attack on it in the simplest of statements....or youare just thinking way to hard about an obvious reality.

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Your'e not being open-minded you are reacting to its acceptance in modern society.

Why aren't you so open minded to incest?

lol really?

for one we are biologically programmed to not be sexually attracted to relatives/family

and also because children who are the product of incest have greatly increased risks of being born with birth defects and illnesses.

what are you gonna do next, compare homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality? please.

edit:

wow i was joking but i see that you actually did. nice work

1. We are also programmed to to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex right?

2. Children arent birth through homosexuality

3. Why not? We're introducing teens to homosexuality at an awards show for kids. Im sure alot of pedophilia cases are between a consenting teen and an older person.

The same cases can be made for pedophilia and incest but people are programmed to seeing those things as immoral and adverse, while turning a blind eye to almost exact parallels with homosexuality.

no. i understand the point you;'re trying to make, but you're taking it too far here.

sex between two consenting adults ≠ sex with children or animals. exact parallels?

everyone acknowledges that it is not best, from an evolutionary/biological standpoint to be gay.

ok. is that really how we are judging members of society these days? i guess we should also be outraged that asthmatics or diabetics or people with terminal illnesses are portrayed positively on television. lord knows that's not "natural."

Once again...the logic and reality can't be side-stepped and when it is examined without bias...the truth becomes clear.

The quoted excerpts are not relating to bestiality, rather conceptual relations between human beings.

And that the crazy part....not everyone accepts that, just go back in this thread and you have NT teenagers who now deem the vagina and a-nus as biological equals and seeing anal sex and harmless as shaking hands...because "they both carry germs". The misinformation and perversion campaign is stunning and that at least has to be admitted. These children are venturing into territory that they have no idea about. We are accepting homosexuality as a culture and we still haven't even formed healthy hetero-sexual education and promotion...but homosexuality is blindly fought for, tooth and nail.

Thats the point terminally ill people aren't promoting their lifestyle and co-opting minds into thinking that their condition is somehow a positive and healthy one. No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population but homosexuality must be accepted for what is is. An unnatural state for healthy human beings.

bolded- you have some valid points, but then you write this trash?

last paragraph- you say "No one is advocating the mistreatment or out casting of any segment of the population " yet that's exactly what has happened to homosexuals. if you can't see why positive portrayals of homosexuals is a well-intentioned effort to reverse some of that.......and instead see it as some homosexually-controlled-media conspiracy.....i don't know what to tell you. other than your views on this and the views of many white supremacist groups sure are shockingly similar.

You have a point. But should it be broadcasted to our youth. I know dudes who aren't gay but out of curiosity they dabber in homosexuality. So wouldn't it be fair for me to say I don't want our youth to be further influenced in that direction?

you know how much violence and crime and whatever other clearly morally wrong behavior is broadcasted on tv? on shows made for children youngerthan the teen choice awards target audience?

acting like your concerns are not out of disgust for homosexuality, but out of fear for "the children," is comically transparent.

and if they aren't gay yet "dabber [sic] in homosexuality," what exactly is the problem here?

also, as a sidenot, acting like homosexuality on tv has made more people gay seems awfully baseless to me. maybe as it has become more mainstream and lesstaboo people are less repressed and more open about their sexuality?

 

[mangudai954]

This is why debating on here is often pointless