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i thought it blew up at the end of FlashforwardOriginally Posted by AirPhilippines
Damn, good eye. It was good, I may need to see it again because I felt like I was fighting sleep throughout the movie.Originally Posted by JJ1223
I need to see this again... there were tons of little details in the movie and I feel like its hard to catch them all the first time
Spoiler [+]
Also, one other thing that I noticed was a location in the movie. Not really a spoiler, but those who have seen it will recognize this building. It was a bit weird seeing this place that I had been in portrayed in a dreamscape.
i thought it blew up at the end of FlashforwardOriginally Posted by AirPhilippines
Damn, good eye. It was good, I may need to see it again because I felt like I was fighting sleep throughout the movie.Originally Posted by JJ1223
I need to see this again... there were tons of little details in the movie and I feel like its hard to catch them all the first time
Spoiler [+]
Also, one other thing that I noticed was a location in the movie. Not really a spoiler, but those who have seen it will recognize this building. It was a bit weird seeing this place that I had been in portrayed in a dreamscape.
I thought it was more about corporate power. If Fischer's business continued on pace, it would dwarf Saito's company and he wouldn't be able to compete anymore.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
Originally Posted by Crazy EBW
Politics.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
So can someone tell me why they were after the guy whose dad died?
can u b more specific?
and for helping me i have sent u the soundtrack to inception
god bless you
EDIT: nice +%!! answer u gave me crazy ebw
thanks dangerousG i wish i only sent u the soundtrack
I thought it was more about corporate power. If Fischer's business continued on pace, it would dwarf Saito's company and he wouldn't be able to compete anymore.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
Originally Posted by Crazy EBW
Politics.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
So can someone tell me why they were after the guy whose dad died?
can u b more specific?
and for helping me i have sent u the soundtrack to inception
god bless you
EDIT: nice +%!! answer u gave me crazy ebw
thanks dangerousG i wish i only sent u the soundtrack
Originally Posted by UnbornSeed
Originally Posted by bns1201
Originally Posted by UnbornSeed
I think he's still dreaming. The ending was awesome though.
DING DING DING
Spoiler [+]it is in my own opinion that he is still dreaming, I must've thought that within the first 10 minutes of the film that a bulk of the entire thing is just leo's dream. What makes me think this is when leo visits the sedative dr, and he takes him underground, Cobb (leo) goes into the dream world, wakes up, spins his top, and we never see if it stops spinning or keeps on spinning because something knocks it down. We dont see him spin the top until the very end, and it was said that the people go underground because the dream world has become their reality. and if cobb stays under that he can visit his wife and kids again
That stuck out to me during that restroom scene after the sedation AND no one is suppose to touch your totem and the old asian man handled it so i dont know if that affected anything.
Originally Posted by UnbornSeed
Originally Posted by bns1201
Originally Posted by UnbornSeed
I think he's still dreaming. The ending was awesome though.
DING DING DING
Spoiler [+]it is in my own opinion that he is still dreaming, I must've thought that within the first 10 minutes of the film that a bulk of the entire thing is just leo's dream. What makes me think this is when leo visits the sedative dr, and he takes him underground, Cobb (leo) goes into the dream world, wakes up, spins his top, and we never see if it stops spinning or keeps on spinning because something knocks it down. We dont see him spin the top until the very end, and it was said that the people go underground because the dream world has become their reality. and if cobb stays under that he can visit his wife and kids again
That stuck out to me during that restroom scene after the sedation AND no one is suppose to touch your totem and the old asian man handled it so i dont know if that affected anything.
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
I thought it was more about corporate power. If Fischer's business continued on pace, it would dwarf Saito's company and he wouldn't be able to compete anymore.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
Originally Posted by Crazy EBW
Politics.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
So can someone tell me why they were after the guy whose dad died?
can u b more specific?
and for helping me i have sent u the soundtrack to inception
god bless you
EDIT: nice +%!! answer u gave me crazy ebw
thanks dangerousG i wish i only sent u the soundtrack
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
I thought it was more about corporate power. If Fischer's business continued on pace, it would dwarf Saito's company and he wouldn't be able to compete anymore.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
Originally Posted by Crazy EBW
Politics.Originally Posted by youngcheezy
So can someone tell me why they were after the guy whose dad died?
can u b more specific?
and for helping me i have sent u the soundtrack to inception
god bless you
EDIT: nice +%!! answer u gave me crazy ebw
thanks dangerousG i wish i only sent u the soundtrack
Originally Posted by xxxoverridexxx
or this theory:
Here's one that kind of counters it, though.
Man, each theory I keep reading makes sense and then discredits another. This movie is going to be frustrate me to no end, even more so than Primer and Memento, haha.
1. Ariadne peeks into Cobb's psyche before the multi-level job began. This allowed her a chance to peek into Cobb's mind, memories and dream themes.
2. She was the main character who was given a CLUE as to what Cobbs used to judge reality or not (not JUST the totem). We are never shown any other characters being given knowledge that he spun it and would wait to see if it stopped spinning or not. As a comparison, we see 2 other characters' totems - Arthur's die and Ariadne' chess piece. BUT, we are never shown how they judge the totems, only what they are. In one scene, Cobbs actually tells Ariadne how he uses the totem.
3. We are shown how Arthur teaches Ariadne the trick of closing the maze, which fools the subconscious of the sleeper's into perceiving the dream as real for much longer. We're then later shown a scene where Arthur uses this trick against a subconscious security agent within a staircase BUT that is just misdirection to make us believe that's the only place it's used. In actuality, it's used again by Ariadne (as I'll explain in a bit).
4. Adriane is the ONLY character in the levels who has SEEN Cobb's 4th level. That means there is NO WAY Saito could perceive that level.
In the final scene, mirroring the initial opening scene, the main difference is that the spinning top is not focused on. Ariadne's character knew EVERYTHING that needed to be known to ensure that Cobb gained an inception. She, in the end, established the ultimate inception, even greater then the inception perpetrated by all the characters onto Fischer, and ultimately an inception of the movie audience. She got Cobbs to believe he made it back up all levels and into reality when, in fact, she designed a closed loop to cause him to believe he's shot back up to reality when in fact he's probably gone even one level deeper into limbo - a limbo where he can finally let go of his guilt and see his children. It was a way to provide him a "happy ending" if by chance he got swallowed up by his own deep psyche.
This is reaffirmed by the initial scene with Cobbs asking her to design a maze for him, and FURTHER reaffirmed by the emphasis to ensure the audience knows that Cobbs NEVER wants to know the architecture of the architect's designs. If the movie did not emphasize the importance of that, it would most definitely crush the possibility of the end having the possibility that Cobbs was deeper into limbo, let alone be ambiguous.
Originally Posted by xxxoverridexxx
or this theory:
Here's one that kind of counters it, though.
Man, each theory I keep reading makes sense and then discredits another. This movie is going to be frustrate me to no end, even more so than Primer and Memento, haha.
1. Ariadne peeks into Cobb's psyche before the multi-level job began. This allowed her a chance to peek into Cobb's mind, memories and dream themes.
2. She was the main character who was given a CLUE as to what Cobbs used to judge reality or not (not JUST the totem). We are never shown any other characters being given knowledge that he spun it and would wait to see if it stopped spinning or not. As a comparison, we see 2 other characters' totems - Arthur's die and Ariadne' chess piece. BUT, we are never shown how they judge the totems, only what they are. In one scene, Cobbs actually tells Ariadne how he uses the totem.
3. We are shown how Arthur teaches Ariadne the trick of closing the maze, which fools the subconscious of the sleeper's into perceiving the dream as real for much longer. We're then later shown a scene where Arthur uses this trick against a subconscious security agent within a staircase BUT that is just misdirection to make us believe that's the only place it's used. In actuality, it's used again by Ariadne (as I'll explain in a bit).
4. Adriane is the ONLY character in the levels who has SEEN Cobb's 4th level. That means there is NO WAY Saito could perceive that level.
In the final scene, mirroring the initial opening scene, the main difference is that the spinning top is not focused on. Ariadne's character knew EVERYTHING that needed to be known to ensure that Cobb gained an inception. She, in the end, established the ultimate inception, even greater then the inception perpetrated by all the characters onto Fischer, and ultimately an inception of the movie audience. She got Cobbs to believe he made it back up all levels and into reality when, in fact, she designed a closed loop to cause him to believe he's shot back up to reality when in fact he's probably gone even one level deeper into limbo - a limbo where he can finally let go of his guilt and see his children. It was a way to provide him a "happy ending" if by chance he got swallowed up by his own deep psyche.
This is reaffirmed by the initial scene with Cobbs asking her to design a maze for him, and FURTHER reaffirmed by the emphasis to ensure the audience knows that Cobbs NEVER wants to know the architecture of the architect's designs. If the movie did not emphasize the importance of that, it would most definitely crush the possibility of the end having the possibility that Cobbs was deeper into limbo, let alone be ambiguous.
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
I wonder if it was suspicious to Fischer that his corporate rival is sitting in the same flight in first class as he was.
Originally Posted by xxxoverridexxx
or this theory:
Here's one that kind of counters it, though.
Man, each theory I keep reading makes sense and then discredits another. This movie is going to be frustrate me to no end, even more so than Primer and Memento, haha.
1. Ariadne peeks into Cobb's psyche before the multi-level job began. This allowed her a chance to peek into Cobb's mind, memories and dream themes.
2. She was the main character who was given a CLUE as to what Cobbs used to judge reality or not (not JUST the totem). We are never shown any other characters being given knowledge that he spun it and would wait to see if it stopped spinning or not. As a comparison, we see 2 other characters' totems - Arthur's die and Ariadne' chess piece. BUT, we are never shown how they judge the totems, only what they are. In one scene, Cobbs actually tells Ariadne how he uses the totem.
3. We are shown how Arthur teaches Ariadne the trick of closing the maze, which fools the subconscious of the sleeper's into perceiving the dream as real for much longer. We're then later shown a scene where Arthur uses this trick against a subconscious security agent within a staircase BUT that is just misdirection to make us believe that's the only place it's used. In actuality, it's used again by Ariadne (as I'll explain in a bit).
4. Adriane is the ONLY character in the levels who has SEEN Cobb's 4th level. That means there is NO WAY Saito could perceive that level.
In the final scene, mirroring the initial opening scene, the main difference is that the spinning top is not focused on. Ariadne's character knew EVERYTHING that needed to be known to ensure that Cobb gained an inception. She, in the end, established the ultimate inception, even greater then the inception perpetrated by all the characters onto Fischer, and ultimately an inception of the movie audience. She got Cobbs to believe he made it back up all levels and into reality when, in fact, she designed a closed loop to cause him to believe he's shot back up to reality when in fact he's probably gone even one level deeper into limbo - a limbo where he can finally let go of his guilt and see his children. It was a way to provide him a "happy ending" if by chance he got swallowed up by his own deep psyche.
This is reaffirmed by the initial scene with Cobbs asking her to design a maze for him, and FURTHER reaffirmed by the emphasis to ensure the audience knows that Cobbs NEVER wants to know the architecture of the architect's designs. If the movie did not emphasize the importance of that, it would most definitely crush the possibility of the end having the possibility that Cobbs was deeper into limbo, let alone be ambiguous.
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
I wonder if it was suspicious to Fischer that his corporate rival is sitting in the same flight in first class as he was.
Originally Posted by xxxoverridexxx
or this theory:
Here's one that kind of counters it, though.
Man, each theory I keep reading makes sense and then discredits another. This movie is going to be frustrate me to no end, even more so than Primer and Memento, haha.
1. Ariadne peeks into Cobb's psyche before the multi-level job began. This allowed her a chance to peek into Cobb's mind, memories and dream themes.
2. She was the main character who was given a CLUE as to what Cobbs used to judge reality or not (not JUST the totem). We are never shown any other characters being given knowledge that he spun it and would wait to see if it stopped spinning or not. As a comparison, we see 2 other characters' totems - Arthur's die and Ariadne' chess piece. BUT, we are never shown how they judge the totems, only what they are. In one scene, Cobbs actually tells Ariadne how he uses the totem.
3. We are shown how Arthur teaches Ariadne the trick of closing the maze, which fools the subconscious of the sleeper's into perceiving the dream as real for much longer. We're then later shown a scene where Arthur uses this trick against a subconscious security agent within a staircase BUT that is just misdirection to make us believe that's the only place it's used. In actuality, it's used again by Ariadne (as I'll explain in a bit).
4. Adriane is the ONLY character in the levels who has SEEN Cobb's 4th level. That means there is NO WAY Saito could perceive that level.
In the final scene, mirroring the initial opening scene, the main difference is that the spinning top is not focused on. Ariadne's character knew EVERYTHING that needed to be known to ensure that Cobb gained an inception. She, in the end, established the ultimate inception, even greater then the inception perpetrated by all the characters onto Fischer, and ultimately an inception of the movie audience. She got Cobbs to believe he made it back up all levels and into reality when, in fact, she designed a closed loop to cause him to believe he's shot back up to reality when in fact he's probably gone even one level deeper into limbo - a limbo where he can finally let go of his guilt and see his children. It was a way to provide him a "happy ending" if by chance he got swallowed up by his own deep psyche.
This is reaffirmed by the initial scene with Cobbs asking her to design a maze for him, and FURTHER reaffirmed by the emphasis to ensure the audience knows that Cobbs NEVER wants to know the architecture of the architect's designs. If the movie did not emphasize the importance of that, it would most definitely crush the possibility of the end having the possibility that Cobbs was deeper into limbo, let alone be ambiguous.