Mactastic4167
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RIP
RIP Joe Paterno
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by Humbled,
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Honestly I think when we get to a certain age, and something bad happens your body/mind just gives in.
darthska
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JewSeeJay:
as a psu alum
Oh.
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Not at all.
Stress and stuff like public humiliation leads to depression (with related physical markers like elevated cortisol levels etc.) and overall deterioration of the body, especially when dealing with disease.
Thats why people try to keep their spirits up. Placebos are powerful things because they allow us to not beat ourselves up and ruminate over things we think are hurting us. Theres tons of studies on this stuff.
Thats why with older couples, when a spouse dies, its very real that the other person might die soon after just because of the stress and feelings they have towards their lost companion.
The only conspiracy here is that hes an 85 year old man who was already sick with a fairly untreatable disease at his stage and was going to die sooner or later. I'm sure the behind-the-scenes nature of the controversy weighed heavily on him and he couldn't take it.
Look at former presidential candidate john edwards. Shortly after his failed campaign run, he was found to have fathered a child out of wedlock and stolen a bunch of money. Now a few months ago they said the feds were going after him SUPER hard, and then what? He ends up having a rare heart condition.
Stress kills. Literally.
Lets also take this time to compare the losers at penn state doing futile things like "keeping snow off of statues" to the blinded, almost religious cult members that they are.
Such a vapid ritual, devoid of meaning and purpose, especially in light of the allegations against him.
Penn State students again show why they don't deserve the respect of national media.
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Easily the dumbest thing posted in this thread. Hate Joe Pa, hate everything he stands for, hate Sandusky and everyone involved in this horrible scandal. But hate the actual school for all this? Hate the students and faculty that had nothing to do with this? C'mon fam you're smarter than that. It's a very frustrating and angering situation for the entire country and all of humanity that something went down like this. Don't let your emotions control your rationale.
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Agree with almost everything you said.
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Damn
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RIP... stress on a old heart in not healthy
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That thread was an abomination.Originally Posted by Proshares
This is that stupid %+*%%*+ 80 page thread all over again
The same characters in here too.
...I'm outta here. *deuces*
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I don't see idiots cheering and supporting a human being who allowed children to be raped under his watch on my Grounds.
Damn, the head of your school even helped to cover it up. I'm going to hate who I want to hate. Your school disgusts me. Especially the handling of the current investigation by your BOT. They have to approve and are allowed to edit a report that may directly implicate them? %*!#$$**.
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I was indifferent about Paterno in this situation because I wasnt sure what he actually knew.
Then Joe Pa comes out with his side of the story saying he was told vague information and he didnt understand what was really going on. And that McQuery never told him Sandusky was "raping" anyone. McQuery admitting that he didnt tell Paterno much details because he didnt think Paterno in his age would understand.
In hindsight its easy for you couch-saints to say he should have told the FBI to launch a full investigation based on something he didnt see and didnt understand
Should he have followed up? Yes. Should he have done more? Knowing what we conveniently know now Yes.
But you bums dancing on the grave of someone who had nothing to do with the monstrous actions that allegedly occurred need to look at the ugly reflection in the mirror
Then Joe Pa comes out with his side of the story saying he was told vague information and he didnt understand what was really going on. And that McQuery never told him Sandusky was "raping" anyone. McQuery admitting that he didnt tell Paterno much details because he didnt think Paterno in his age would understand.
In hindsight its easy for you couch-saints to say he should have told the FBI to launch a full investigation based on something he didnt see and didnt understand
Should he have followed up? Yes. Should he have done more? Knowing what we conveniently know now Yes.
But you bums dancing on the grave of someone who had nothing to do with the monstrous actions that allegedly occurred need to look at the ugly reflection in the mirror
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Yes, you correct on everything you said and I agree with you. But remember 2,500/45,000 people "rioted. Not all 45,000.
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Look at post #120 in this thread...I'd be curious to know your (as well as anyone else's) viewpoint after reading through that article.
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I'm sure only the people who rioted were the ones who think Paterno is innocent.
Former players... idiots.
Former students/current students... idiots.
Former administration/current administration... idiots.
I go to school with quite a few PSU alumni. Here's an email from one of them.
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And that's the problem here my man, who cares how many wins he had or what he did on the field. This is real life $+*%. And that is what disgusts me about the idiots who support him for this reason. Because he was a football coach? %+#%. Football is what caused this problem in the first place.
This is my viewpoint. Agree with it or not. This man did some great things in his life through philanthropy and charity. He dedicated his life to serving others whether they were students, alumni, his players, or his family, this dude lived to serve others. When I attended mass on campus this morning, the priest opened talking about Joe Paterno and his recent conversations with him. He said they joked about his accomplishments, the records and the titles. The priest also said Joe told him, "A husband. A father. And a grandfather. That is what I'm proud of". But this man also did some horrible things in his life. Not through his actions, but through his inaction. He harbored an environment for a child molestor. He was without a doubt the most powerful man at the university throughout his tenure and he should've, could've done more. Period. And that's the harsh reality that a lot of people choose to turn a blind eye to.
You can't dwell on the bad things he did without looking back at the good things he did. But you also can't dwell on the good things he did without looking back the the bad things he did.
/rant . I'm done with this discussion in this thread even though I am going against my word when I used lets keep the discussion out of here. PM me if you would like to discuss this further. I appreciate your insight and your thoughts on this topic fam.
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Sad situation all around.
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I'll leave it with this...
One bad deed can undo any amount of good you've done in your life. That's how I will view Joe Pa. I am not alone. His inaction disgusts me. His naive claims disgust me. He disgusts me.
Of course, Sandusky disgusts me more. But that doesn't need to be discussed because it is a given.
One bad deed can undo any amount of good you've done in your life. That's how I will view Joe Pa. I am not alone. His inaction disgusts me. His naive claims disgust me. He disgusts me.
Of course, Sandusky disgusts me more. But that doesn't need to be discussed because it is a given.
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Most definitely. RIP to Joe.
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I'm with DaJoka on this one
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Where does it say in that article that Joe Pa had access to the police report or any knowledge of it?That article makes me disgusted with Sandyskys wife more than anything. If anyone HAD to have known of his vicious acts it was her
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I was hoping the stress from the case wouldn't lead to this.
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Please, that article was all theoretics and speculation. Sandusky was already on his way out. The span of time and the proposed new coaching opportunity for Sandusky all seemed to have happened simultaneously. That's what I gather from the article. You should be asking yourself that, after an "exhaustive" 130 page police report, and after Sandusky admitted "was wrong/wished I were dead" how was this man allowed to get away, scott free back in 1998? Why did it take 10+ years for authorities to finally nab Sandusky and form a case?
All of this is nonobjective. The fact remains, human beings have that uncanny ability to form a thought or opinion, conclude on hypothetical grounds, and act on that false presumption and run away with it. It baffles me how people can truthfully and honestly blame Joe Paterno solely for another adults actions, when others were privy to the situation and did nothing as well. Like, HOW does your mind allow you to think in such a way? And, here's an article about the non-action that ensued after the '98 police report:
Aftermath of 1998 Sandusky Investigation Raises Additional ...
In 1998, the Penn State campus police and local law enforcement authorities investigated an allegation that Jerry Sandusky, then a prominent coach with the university’s football team, had engaged in inappropriate and perhaps sexual conduct with a boy in the football facility’s showers.
A lengthy police report was generated, state prosecutors said. The boy was interviewed. A second potential victim was identified. Child welfare authorities were brought in. Sandusky confessed to showering with one or both of the children. The local district attorney was given material to consider prosecution.
In the end, no prosecution was undertaken. The child welfare agency did not take action. And, according to prosecutors, the commander of the university’s campus police force told his detective, Ronald Schreffler, to close the case.
“Sandusky admitted showering naked with Victim 6, admitted to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admitted that it was wrong,
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RIP Joe Pat
Seems like the stress of everything lead to his death.
Seems like the stress of everything lead to his death.
