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I’d say it’s extremely rare for police to be on the scene when a knife attack is actually in progress.

It’s one thing to have de-escalation procedures for someone who is brandishing a weapon but when that person is actively moving on somebody with intent your only real options are taser or gun.

yea, again in the U.K. they use non-lethal force for active knifing situations. U.K. police also respond to active knife attacks and don't have to fire 5 rounds to save lives.
 
because he tossed the gun over the fence that was given to him by the other guy he was with

you said he had a gun in his hand when he was shot. that wasn't the case

he complied, put his hands up and was still shot in the chest
 
Yea, depends on the scenario. In this one I'd tread a little more lightly.

sounds good....your kid now has stab wounds bleeding out and potentially dying because you chose to “tread lightly” I’m sure the mother and everyone else in the family will applaud how level headed you stood as your kid was getting poked, BRAVO.
 
yea, again in the U.K. they use non-lethal force for active knifing situations. U.K. police also respond to active knife attacks and don't have to fire 5 rounds to save lives.
Same in my country, not that it always works well. There's still a lot of police brutality, just in other ways than shooting people. Our cops may only rarely shoot innocent people but they sure do like beating them up.

This is an old case but I still remember it well because it presents a stark difference with US policing.
An officer here once got charged and convicted for fatally shooting a deranged violent perpetrator who charged at him from a relatively long distance with a knife. It was in a city square with lots of space and clear lines of sight, the perpetrator had his arm raised with the knife in position to make a downwards stabbing motion.
The prosecution's argument was that because the perpetrator was charging from afar in a straight line, the officer had more than enough time to pull out his taser to neutralize him. I do remember this case being somewhat controversial at the time but it did end in a conviction at the end of the day.
 
sounds good....your kid now has stab wounds bleeding out and potentially dying because you chose to “tread lightly” I’m sure the mother and everyone else in the family will applaud how level headed you stood as your kid was getting poked, BRAVO.

If I were that close I could also jump on the dude attacking my child without unloading 5 rounds and having one potentially hit her.

I'm referring to the specific scenario in this video, I would also be concerned about hitting my child with a bullet so unlike this mongrel of a cop I would have treaded a little more lightly.
 
Same in my country, not that it always works well. There's still a lot of police brutality, just in other ways than shooting people.

This is an old case but I still remember it well because it presents a stark difference with US policing.
An officer here once got charged and convicted for fatally shooting a deranged violent perpetrator who charged at him from a relatively long distance with a knife with the clear intent to stab. It was in a city square with lots of space and clear lines of sight, the suspect has his arm raised with the knife in position to make a downwards stabbing motion.
The prosecution's argument was that because the perpetrator was charging from afar in a straight line, the officer had more than enough time to pull out his taser to neutralize him. I do remember this case being somewhat controversial at the time but it did end in a conviction at the end of the day.

Yea, it doesn't always work but shooting at people here doesn't always work and poses threats to bystanders and unarmed individuals. In this country people get shot ALL THE TIME, because the police "THINK THEY SAW A WEAPON". Their training leaves zero room for critical analysis, it's shoot first think later.
 
So you having a gun in your hand, being about 6ft away while the knife is inches from your girl, would rather dive at the attacker, high chances your kid gets stabbed and so will you....your risk assessment is absolute crap tbh 🤣

you being a gun owner, isn’t this one of those situations ya stay flaunting the need for a gun in the first place, “to protect yourself and your family”
 
Yea, it doesn't always work but shooting at people here doesn't always work and poses threats to bystanders and unarmed individuals. In this country people get shot ALL THE TIME, because the police "THINK THEY SAW A WEAPON". Their training leaves zero room for critical analysis, it's shoot first think later.

Definitely. Shooting someone should be a last resort because you or others are in danger.
Someone waving a knife far away definitely doesn’t need shot, tased maybe, but there are better ways to deal with these things that seem to happen way too often in the US.
 
Yea, it doesn't always work but shooting at people here doesn't always work and poses threats to bystanders and unarmed individuals. In this country people get shot ALL THE TIME, because the police "THINK THEY SAW A WEAPON". Their training leaves zero room for critical analysis, it's shoot first think later.
Yeah I feel like the taser isn't even part of the equation in US policing a lot of the time.
 
Definitely. Shooting someone should be a last resort because you or others are in danger.
Someone waving a knife far away definitely doesn’t need shot, tased maybe, but there are better ways to deal with these things that seem to happen way too often in the US.
Were any shots fired in DC during the storming of the capitol?

Didn't the police feel overwhelmed, threatened?
 
So you having a gun in your hand, being about 6ft away while the knife is inches from your girl, would rather dive at the attacker, high chances your kid gets stabbed and so will you....your risk assessment is absolute crap tbh 🤣

you being a gun owner, isn’t this one of those situations ya stay flaunting the need for a gun in the first place, “to protect yourself and your family”

Based on that video my daughter would be entirely too close for me to be unloading clips above the waist like a maniac.

I'm a gun owner because MAGAs have one and I can't let them be the only ones walking around with it. I actually hate guns with a passion, I've seen first hand the damage they do.
 
Instead of stopping his daughter this is what the dad is doing
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I rather have a knife wound, than myself or someone else getting killed. They have tasers for situations like this. If that were a white girl, she would still be alive.

My aim is not that great and i'm pretty sure I could have shot that girl below the waist avoiding the risk of lethal injury to her or the girl being assaulted, but the pig didn't care.

Again this comes full circle back to training. The chose the dumbest society has to offer and military rejects for this job.



not to take away from the rest of your post, but from a medical standpoint, this is a ridiculous statement. one doesn't simply just prefer a knife wound over...anything really. a knife can do catastrophic internal damage to you and kill you almost as fast a bullet particularly if we are talking vital arteries and organs. and some bleeding isn't stopped by "just putting pressure on it".


Instead of stopping his daughter this is what the dad is doing
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I'm not gonna watch the video, but....that is a big *** knife. tells me that was intentionally brought out to hurt someone. badly.
 
Based on that video my daughter would be entirely too close for me to be unloading clips above the waist like a maniac.

I'm a gun owner because MAGAs have one and I can't let them be the only ones walking around with it. I actually hate guns with a passion, I've seen first hand the damage they do.

So let her take her chances getting poked up while you dive at the attacker, best case scenario she gets poked up once or twice, worst case scenario ya both get killed by stab wounds....bet.
 
not to take away from the rest of your post, but from a medical standpoint, this is a ridiculous statement. one doesn't simply just prefer a knife wound over...anything really. a knife can do catastrophic internal damage to you and kill you almost as fast a bullet particularly if we are talking vital arteries and organs. and some bleeding isn't stopped by "just putting pressure on it".

Perhaps seeing my fare share of stab wounds roll through the ER as well as gun shot wounds, to me they are both just as deadly....but dude isn’t thinking logically, his mind is made up that the cop had full control of the situation before he even hopped out the car.
 
Instead of stopping his daughter this is what the dad is doing
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Interesting picture. There is literally a bullseye on where the cop could have shot her. I'd be more understanding if this were a skinny adult meth head lunging at her :lol: :smh:


Honestly I feel for the dad, he wasn't tryna get shot either. :rofl:I don't condone it, but I understand. Black men been shot for less.
 
Instead of stopping his daughter this is what the dad is doing
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what the hell kind of post is this?
a fraction of a second of a photo does not tell a full story but you're ready to indict the entire family of this young girl for somehow contributing to her death. that ain't right man
 
not to take away from the rest of your post, but from a medical standpoint, this is a ridiculous statement. one doesn't simply just prefer a knife wound over...anything really. a knife can do catastrophic internal damage to you and kill you almost as fast a bullet particularly if we are talking vital arteries and organs. and some bleeding isn't stopped by "just putting pressure on it".

A knife can indeed do a lot of damage but it is less efficient in doing so. The velocity of the penetrating injury from a gun is far worse than a 16 year old girl with a shank. This is basic pathology.

It again comes down to perceived likeliness of this event being deadly. From my view point firing a gun multiple times carries a higher likelihood of death of everyone involved in this situation than that knife.
 
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